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Ray Nagin: Flooded School Buses Not My Fault
newsmax.com ^ | Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005 12:39 a.m. EDT

Posted on 09/11/2005 2:54:36 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Sunday, Sept. 11, 2005 12:39 a.m. EDT Ray Nagin: Flooded School Buses Not My Fault

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said Friday that it wasn't his fault city school buses weren't mobilized to facilitate the Hurricane Katrina evacuation he ordered.

Appearing on NBC's "Dateline," Nagin was asked by host Stone Phillips: "What was mobilized? I mean were national guard troops in position. Were helicopters standing by? Were buses ready to take people away?"

"No. None of that," the Big Easy mayor replied. "Why is that?" an incredulous Phillips asked.

Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."

The Louisiana Democrat didn't explain just who the "somebody else" was, saying only:

"All I can do is [say] that I was dealing with it as a mayor -- how do I prepare my city for an incredibly powerful storm? So immediately we tried to get as many people out as possible."

The "Dateline" exchange was only the second time Mayor Nagin had been asked about the failure to use his city's school buses, hundreds of which sat 1.2 miles from the Superdome.

Two days after the levees broke, Nagin told a New Orleans radio station that he wanted Greyhound Bus Lines to send their entire fleet rather than launch an evacuation in public school buses.

"One of the briefings we had they were talking about getting, you know, public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out of here," Nagin said.

"I'm like - you've got to be kidding me. This is a natural disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bitchsetmeup; blamegame; buses; ijustcutribbonsetc; ijustleadtheparades; incompetence; infullcyamode; itsnotmyfault; katrina; katrinafailures; nagin; thekingofnothing; toolittletoolate
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1 posted on 09/11/2005 2:54:37 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

The Man In Charge Of School Buses had fled before the hurricane. That explains everything.


2 posted on 09/11/2005 2:55:34 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."

Is "somebody else" mayor of New Orleans?

3 posted on 09/11/2005 2:59:12 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: InvisibleChurch

In my opinion, Gov. Blanco had more legal authority over the school buses than Mayor Nagin. And she could have deployed the National Guard to drive the buses.


4 posted on 09/11/2005 3:02:13 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: InvisibleChurch

5 posted on 09/11/2005 3:02:36 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: shuckmaster
Is "somebody else" mayor of New Orleans?

No, but somebody else will be mayor after next election!

6 posted on 09/11/2005 3:02:50 AM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of History are bound to repeat them.)
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To: The Red Zone

The Busmaster General?


7 posted on 09/11/2005 3:03:21 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: InvisibleChurch; All
HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links Click the picture:



8 posted on 09/11/2005 3:04:34 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: InvisibleChurch
I understand that the school buses don't have lavatories (neither do cars, Mr. Nagin), which is one of the reasons he gave for not using them, but what a stupid waste of gasoline to bring in Greyhounds when buses are already in the vicinity. If you don't know whose fault it is that the National Guard wasn't available as drivers by now, Mr. Mayor, you certainly don't need to be in charge of a city. If an 18 year-old who didn't know how to drive a bus managed to anyway, how is it there weren't any other evacuees who were capable?
9 posted on 09/11/2005 3:05:57 AM PDT by skr
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To: InvisibleChurch
Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."

Perhaps in his mind the POTUS should have driven those buses... I think if he said "Bush should have", the MSM will agree and it will become a headline...

10 posted on 09/11/2005 3:06:29 AM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"All I can do is [say] that I was dealing with it as a mayor...

So he was smoking crack in a hotel room?

11 posted on 09/11/2005 3:07:49 AM PDT by rickmichaels (Support America, Buy American)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"It's not my fault boo hoo" ....Mayor Numbskull Nagin

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12 posted on 09/11/2005 3:08:24 AM PDT by guitarnick40 ( The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is to put an f'n liberal in charge.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
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13 posted on 09/11/2005 3:12:51 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
It's not my fault and besides, I had to leave the city for four days to buy a house and register my kid for school. Just unbelievable.

What I want to know is... What is the class action lawsuit gonna be like for all those families who lost a family member because of his inaction?
14 posted on 09/11/2005 3:16:02 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."

There is a reason for local governments to have in place an emergency plan Mr. Nagin, one is to protect human life, and in the case of New Orleans that plan provided guidance as to what responsibilities were the mayor's. So is it true to say you did not know what your responsibilities were and failed to follow the plan or did you know the plan existed and failed to implement the plan?

15 posted on 09/11/2005 3:16:10 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: InvisibleChurch; dixiechick2000; devolve; onyx; OXENinFLA; potlatch; DoughtyOne; EagleUSA; ...
It's a question for 'SOMEBODY ELSE' . .

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New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said Friday that it wasn't his fault city school buses weren't mobilized to facilitate the Hurricane Katrina evacuation he ordered.

Appearing on NBC's "Dateline," Nagin was asked by host Stone Phillips: "What was mobilized? I mean were national guard troops in position.

Were helicopters standing by?

Were buses ready to take people away?"

"No. None of that," the Big Easy mayor replied.

"Why is that?" an incredulous Phillips asked.

Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."


16 posted on 09/11/2005 3:20:22 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
The questions that need to be asked...

Were school and public buses part of the evacuation plan?

If not, why not?

If so, what was the manning plan to have drivers available and what was the marshaling plan to get them loaded.

Base on what I have read in the last 12 days it appears the buses were part of the plan but I haven't read the plan myself. The breakdown appears to be that Nagin and Blanco and their respective staffs failed to have a viable manning plan. This level of planning and detail should not be the job of FEMA.

I don't understand why a reporter hasn't gone to another hurricane endangered city (Wilmington looks good right now) and asked something like the above questions and what the mayor (and governors) expectations are of FEMA. Compare and contrast with Katrina.
17 posted on 09/11/2005 3:21:10 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: backhoe

Thanks - and great job, sir!


18 posted on 09/11/2005 3:21:13 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I've decided that, as with many of the Democrats in, for example, California, these two (Nagin and Blanco) got "elected" into office because they fulfilled the niche requirements of who ~should be~ in office and that is: feminists and racial minorities. Regardless of qualifications and character.

Not that those two generalized types should not hold office or otherwise be elected but that the stereotypes only go so far to get anything done and mostly when stereotypes are elected, when there's no other substance there, they just fill out the office, sit in the chair, make a big show. We can now see that that's about it for these two, specifically: they arrived by way of fulfilling a stereotype but had little to nothing else to offer.

There's no leadership. Leadership is what they're supposed to provide once in office.

Nagin's responses are among the most cruelly stupid I've yet to hear/read...he can laugh and be cute and a pretty man and all but, given the amount of suffering, damages and even deaths in a city he was supposed to be leading away from those dastardly happenings, he's looking quite criminal to my view. Like a stupid criminal, nothing more, and that's very bad.

If and when anyone can figure out why this stupid guy would ever reason his way to deny the use of school buses readily available -- in trying to contend with a life-or-death situation -- while demanding "air conditioning" in other buses that were no where to be seen, please let me know. Sometimes stupid is tragically criminal, and this is one of those times.


19 posted on 09/11/2005 3:21:56 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: InvisibleChurch

Great Googly Moogly! I can't believe this man is getting away with this.


20 posted on 09/11/2005 3:22:08 AM PDT by Maeve
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To: rickmichaels
So he was smoking crack in a hotel room?

That sounds more real than anything else floated so far as an explanation of his colossal failure.

21 posted on 09/11/2005 3:25:04 AM PDT by Maeve
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To: kingu

I've wondered this myself.... Are there any FReeper attorneys that might comment on the potential succcess of a class action wrongful death suit? What are the laws related to such? Are there any precedents of elected officials being held perosnally liable for negligence?


22 posted on 09/11/2005 3:26:55 AM PDT by jsmnz
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To: RedEyeJack
I sure hope that the incompetence and their ( Nagin abd Blanco ) inability of not using those buses to evacuate those people out of New Orleans and their lack of having a plan will be the main focus of the Hurricane Katrina hearings.
I hope this whole situation will backfire on the Democrats/Liberals/MSM and the American public will see the Democrats/Liberals/MSM for what they are and I hope the race baiting will backfire on them also.
23 posted on 09/11/2005 3:27:33 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Maeve

"That sounds more real than anything else floated so far as an explanation of his colossal failure."

Well said, Maeve!


24 posted on 09/11/2005 3:28:19 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: HAL9000

Bottom line, it IS Blanco's fault. She is the chief executive of that state and she is a miserable failure.


25 posted on 09/11/2005 3:29:24 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: BIRDS
Thats affirmative action for you, or should I say, " inaction "
26 posted on 09/11/2005 3:29:45 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Maeve

The press is too busy trying to find something Bush did wrong to even bother with this story. The real story here. For if the press actually started asking the right questions and grilling the right people....Bush and the Feds are pretty much exonerated.


27 posted on 09/11/2005 3:32:45 AM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: InvisibleChurch
All this friggin' nonsense over what kind of busses should have been used to evac the people... Hey, how about walking?

Most of the coverage I've seen shows people slogging through the flood waters carrying everything from bread to big screen TVs, you mean to tell me that some of them couldn't walk a couple miles out of town?

Nope, this is on you Nagin, you didn't do your job, and the people of NOLA are worse off for it.

28 posted on 09/11/2005 3:34:38 AM PDT by infidel29 ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Nagin replied: "I don't know. That is question for somebody else."

Unbelievable.
29 posted on 09/11/2005 3:37:27 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: RedEyeJack
Annex I: Hurricanes City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan
30 posted on 09/11/2005 3:40:42 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Line the border with trebuchets. Provide the invaders free flights home.)
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To: Happy2BMe

31 posted on 09/11/2005 3:42:40 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: InvisibleChurch
Appearing on NBC's "Dateline," Nagin was asked by host Stone Phillips: "What was mobilized? I mean were national guard troops in position. Were helicopters standing by? Were buses ready to take people away?"

"No. None of that," the Big Easy mayor replied. "Why is that?" an incredulous Phillips asked.

Nagin replied: "I don't know. That is question for somebody else."

** What he means is that you would have to ask someone with a brain.
** What he should say is " Look, I screwed up. I should have used common sense and used the buses with or without permission when lives were at stake. Forgive me for not being honest then and not being honest now. I am just trying to pass the blame. Just get me out of office. I can't do this job "
" Now if you will excuse me, I want to go stick my head back in the sand. Call me when it is over"
32 posted on 09/11/2005 3:42:44 AM PDT by WasDougsLamb (just my opinion. Go easy on me.)
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To: BIRDS
I've decided that, as with many of the Democrats in, for example, California, these two (Nagin and Blanco) got "elected" into office because they fulfilled the niche requirements of who ~should be~ in office and that is: feminists and racial minorities. Regardless of qualifications and character.

Idiots are elected by idiots, where is the "voter responsibility" in this?

If people are not responsible for their vote, then why vote?

33 posted on 09/11/2005 3:43:17 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: RedEyeJack
The questions that need to be asked...

Were school and public buses part of the evacuation plan?

If not, why not?

If so, what was the manning plan to have drivers available and what was the marshaling plan to get them loaded.

Good questions, all. Where I live, most school bus drivers are part-time employees, often moms whose own kids are among the passengers. Rolling out 200 school buses would mean ordering, or at least asking, 200 CDL drivers not to evacuate with their families.

That would require the drivers knowing in advance that they might get that call, and residents knowing in advance where the buses will be to pick them up. The kind of information that would have to be disseminated at the beginning of hurricane season, and for it to work, the order would have to be given on Friday night/Saturday morning at the very least, not Sat. night/Sun. morning.

34 posted on 09/11/2005 3:43:57 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: InvisibleChurch
Nagin replied: "I dont know. That is question for somebody else."

Yeah. Like a prosecutor.

35 posted on 09/11/2005 3:44:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: ReignOfError

Nagin could've asked Blanco to provide Guardsmen to drive the buses.


36 posted on 09/11/2005 3:45:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: kingu
It's not my fault and besides, I had to leave the city for four days to buy a house and register my kid for school. Just unbelievable.

I've heard that mentioned but I haven't seen a link. Do you happen to have one? I'd love to send it to my 'favorite' Bush-basher.

37 posted on 09/11/2005 3:45:54 AM PDT by Bob
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To: InvisibleChurch

He should have used the buses ! What are they being used for? It is obvious they are NOT being used to take people to school to educate them.


38 posted on 09/11/2005 3:47:39 AM PDT by WasDougsLamb (just my opinion. Go easy on me.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

This excuse, while an abomination, will fly.

It's like George Orwell's "1984", but it's the media, instead of the government which controls the message.

The message is "get Bush"


39 posted on 09/11/2005 3:50:10 AM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Greenpees; All

Does anyone know Nagin's political affiliation...???


40 posted on 09/11/2005 3:54:05 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Hey Child bearing FReepers out there... Make more Conservatives !)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Such breathless stupidity that I am finding a hard time equating it with anything other that "Able Danger" and all of the chances we lost to deal with Mr. Bin Laden. I still believe that we are seeing some of the fruits of Affirmative Action in the leadership of New Orleans and Louisiana.
41 posted on 09/11/2005 3:56:07 AM PDT by Leapofaith (I stole this tagline from Radix --- don't tell)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I thoought that there were also CITY transit buses that were available (but of course had no heads onboard).


42 posted on 09/11/2005 3:57:40 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: InvisibleChurch

He is lying!!! Everyone knows, the RATS have always claimed to know more and know better how to lead. Just put em in. Let em hold the $$$. Remember Kerry has/had a plan? As a bonus the RATS are most adept at running their fingers thru the rice. Caint yall get it? Why caint ya remember all the RATS have bragged abouit?


43 posted on 09/11/2005 4:00:25 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Waco

Bull! Crisis management/Disaster preparedness, is
part and parcel of *Every* mayors duties in *every*
city, in the WORLD.

It is the incumbent duty for every public official
to be prepared to fullfil their crisis duties
in an emergency, or know where they are supposed
to go, to be out of the way, but still "reachable"
to perform the duties of their office, including
*running* an 'emegency situation' "mobile/temporary
office".

If FEMA failed in it's duties in significant ways in
regards to New Orleans..It's because the Mayor, and the
LA Governer, had not done *their* jobs, in performancer
of their local and state duties. Like the ACLU wants
of all america, New Orleans 'Wasn't Prepared'...to do
jack..and so..they failed mserably.

I swear..it should be a requirement of every public official and Governmental dfepartment head, Federa state and local, to take and *pass* educational courses in 'Good Governance'.


44 posted on 09/11/2005 4:07:12 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: backhoe

45 posted on 09/11/2005 4:18:20 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: jocon307

Her name is very appropriate. The woman's mind is blank.


46 posted on 09/11/2005 4:21:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea ("I was just the spark the universe chose ....." --- Cindy Sheehan (barf alert))
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

That's a joke, right?

Nagin (and Blanco) are Democrats.


47 posted on 09/11/2005 4:21:54 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS
I figured he was democratic, wasn't positive though...

Now watch, if we start correctly pinning both of them as inept, the democrats will cry politics (especially Pelosi)! Oh, it's the republicans picking on democrats. Ha!

48 posted on 09/11/2005 4:35:26 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Hey Child bearing FReepers out there... Make more Conservatives !)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

you are kidding right?


49 posted on 09/11/2005 4:35:38 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Yeah, they have been doing that already.


50 posted on 09/11/2005 4:36:40 AM PDT by BIRDS
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