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Maverick who believes we can live for ever
Guardian UK ^ | September 10, 2005 | Mark Honigsbaum

Posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:14 PM PDT by billorites

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1 posted on 09/11/2005 2:28:14 PM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

I think it is possible and that the clues are all either within geneology or something of that nature.

That said, it is only natural for things to die. That is the process of renewal that life strives upon.

and I don't believe science as we know it today is up to the task either.


2 posted on 09/11/2005 2:29:45 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (The better team won.....)
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To: billorites

Boy! That Johnny McVain sure gets around.


3 posted on 09/11/2005 2:30:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: billorites

If we can get everyone and everything to live forever, won't we run out of space? What will the turkey buzzards eat?


4 posted on 09/11/2005 2:31:35 PM PDT by pa mom
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5 posted on 09/11/2005 2:33:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: MikeinIraq

I am placing my bets with God. When the River Of Life was sealed off and The Garden of Eden was lost to the Noahic Flood, we were doomed to a shorter life span. But God does promise eternal life via Jesus Christ.


6 posted on 09/11/2005 2:34:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: MikeinIraq
That said, it is only natural for things to die.

Smallpox and polio are also quite natural. No thanks.

It takes 50 years to get a particle physicist up to speed these days. Such a pity for them to drop dead just when things are getting interesting.

Looks like Social Security is toast.

7 posted on 09/11/2005 2:35:03 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: billorites
Engineer cells so they no longer carry the gene for telomeres, thus stopping tumour from dividing. De Grey would also replace a person's stem cells every 10 years

Aside from the utter lack of specifics, the telomere theory of aging is unproven, in fact, probably false.

8 posted on 09/11/2005 2:35:08 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: BipolarBob
But God does promise eternal life via Jesus Christ.

Yeah, but technology might actually deliver.

9 posted on 09/11/2005 2:35:44 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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But God does promise eternal life via Jesus Christ. Yeah, but technology might actually deliver.

You place your bets and I'll place mine. I'm cool with that.

10 posted on 09/11/2005 2:41:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm really BagdadBob under the witness protection program.)
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To: billorites

It's an interesting point that the Biblical "three score and ten" is, first of all 'Biblical', meaning old and second, actually three score and ten or four score, i.e., an average of 75.

Even if we assume that the editors of the KJV made up Psalms 90:10 on the spot, the fact is that knowlegeable people in 1611 were comfortable with the idea that people died of old age at around 75 if something else didn't kill them first.

So what is it, exactly, that Gerontology has accomplished since then? (this isn't really a very serious point, but keep it in reserve in case you run into an especially insufferable Gerontologist.)


11 posted on 09/11/2005 2:44:23 PM PDT by Grut
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To: billorites

This is where the right will split up in 20+ years, but not until after we destroy militant Islamism.


12 posted on 09/11/2005 2:44:41 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: billorites
He dubbed it the Methuselah gene after the Biblical prophet who lived to 969.

Methuselah is not recorded as a prophet. The only Biblical facts concerning him are his father's name (Enoch), his son's name (Lamech), and his age.

Enoch is known as a prophet from ancient non-Biblical writings, and from a brief quote in the New Testament.

13 posted on 09/11/2005 2:45:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: BipolarBob

'Zactly what I was thinking. I'm going to live forever. Everyone else can too. But not because of a scientific breakthru.
susie


14 posted on 09/11/2005 2:47:35 PM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: BipolarBob
"When the River Of Life was sealed off"

Dont you mean TREE of life?

15 posted on 09/11/2005 2:48:56 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: pa mom
What will the turkey buzzards eat?

Roadkill, same as now. No amount of genetic chicanery will save you from a speeding truck!

16 posted on 09/11/2005 2:49:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: Tax-chick

Good point. That chipmunk with it's legs in the air at the end of my block certainly didn't look geriatric!


17 posted on 09/11/2005 2:51:48 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: AdamSelene235
Yeah, but technology might actually deliver.

Not in your lifetime.

18 posted on 09/11/2005 2:52:54 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: pa mom

There's aging, and then there's everything else that kills you!


19 posted on 09/11/2005 2:53:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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To: Tax-chick

It's hard enough keeping up one's appearance at 40 or 50 or more. Who wants to be fighting crow's feet at 450?

Give me 99 good years, death in my sleep and a free pass at the pearly gates.


20 posted on 09/11/2005 2:56:49 PM PDT by pa mom
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