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Michael Brown and the Unasked Question

Posted on 09/12/2005 9:34:16 AM PDT by Raebie

"Amid all the bashing of FEMA director Michael Brown as an incompetent, unqualified, resume-padding political hack, one small factor has been overlooked: His job required Senate confirmation, didn't it? Indeed it did. And not only was Brown confirmed, but he was apparently confirmed by a unanimous voice vote -- when the Senate was controlled by Democrats. An enterprising blogger has found the transcript of Brown's June 19, 2002 confirmation hearing before the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, then chaired by Sen. Joseph Lieberman. The whole affair, including tributes from Brown's home-state senators, apparently lasted less then an hour, and ended with Lieberman saying, "Mr. Brown, I thank you very much. I will certainly support your nomination. I will do my best to move it through the committee as soon as possible so we can have you fully and legally at work in your new position." The hearing was for Brown's nomination as deputy director of FEMA; it appears that Brown did not have to be re-confirmed when he became director."

(Thanks to ToughGuy for posting this at another BB)


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fema; michaelbrown; senate

1 posted on 09/12/2005 9:34:18 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: Raebie

This from the MSM which had no problem with Madeline Albright-the biggest joke in the history of presidential appointments.


2 posted on 09/12/2005 9:36:31 AM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Raebie

Is this correct? Independent verification please.


3 posted on 09/12/2005 9:38:05 AM PDT by RightCanuck
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To: Spok

"Amid all ... ...as an incompetent, unqualified, resume-padding political hack, one small factor has been overlooked."

Sounds like most of the Senate to me...


4 posted on 09/12/2005 9:38:57 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Spok
This from the MSM which had no problem with Madeline Albright-the biggest joke in the history of presidential appointments.

Short memory?


5 posted on 09/12/2005 9:42:27 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Raebie

Funny, he was competent enough in managing relief after four major hurricanes in FL in 2004.

I will say that his resume padding is inexcusible, and he managed to look clueless in several post-Katrina interviews, so cutting him loose is the correct move. But the general attacks on his abilities are way overblown.


6 posted on 09/12/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: pageonetoo

It's going to be tough to beat that one on the "biggest joke" scale.


7 posted on 09/12/2005 9:44:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Raebie

Good story. Got links?

And this IS Bush's fault. He obviously tricked the Senate into trusting his judgement.

I guess he's stupid and incredibly clever at the same time.


8 posted on 09/12/2005 9:46:10 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: pageonetoo

Who are those people?


9 posted on 09/12/2005 9:46:58 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: FreedomPoster; pageonetoo

Elders didn't have any job to do and did it well. Half-Bright made a mess of world affairs as she was apparently expected to do.


10 posted on 09/12/2005 9:49:15 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Raebie

Here's a question to ask any liberal who says Brown wasn't qualified for the job; how many FEMA Directors have had previous experience as the director of a State's Emergency Management agency?

Answer: one, in the entire history of FEMA. James L. Witt, Clinton's appointee.

Next question: Other than Witt, which FEMA director had the second most experience with emergency management upon taking office?

Answer: Mike Brown.

And, of course, you can finish off with this much-posted link:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05254/568876.stm


11 posted on 09/12/2005 9:49:27 AM PDT by syberghost
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To: Raebie

I'm still waiting for anybody from the left (or right for that matter) to tell me what Brown did wrong.


12 posted on 09/12/2005 9:50:06 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: fullchroma
Who are those people?

Thank God, I thought it was just me!

I don't get it either.

Regards,
GtG

13 posted on 09/12/2005 9:51:08 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray
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To: FreedomPoster
Funny, he was competent enough in managing relief after four major hurricanes in FL in 2004.

Not only was he PRAISED for his efforts in Florida during that horrendous string of Hurricanes BUT he was CREDITED with swinging Florida to the BUSH column just in time for the elections.

As a side note. The first Hurricane hit Florida on a FRIDAY and FEMA went in ON MONDAY, that 3 day delay was somehow considered such a QUICK RESPONSE as to turn the TIDE of a Presidential election.

See here.

14 posted on 09/12/2005 9:54:34 AM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Raebie
The role of advise and consent on Presidential appointments is intended, among other things, to provide independent vetting, and should improve the cut rate for incompetent or corrupt officials. Brown is neither patently incompetent nor corrupt; the Senate did its job in confirming him.

Advise and consent is not intended to be used as a political or ideological weapon. One might argue that the Democrats practice of using it ideologically has weakened the ability of advise and consent to function properly. But I don't see that happening in this case.

Brown was duly appointed and confirmed; he did fine until this storm hit us in a geographically and culturally vulenrable spot. He did not do fine in the face of that challenge. But it is part of the unhealthy media/political mood and over the top, in my opinion, to question his very appointment. But if you do, the Senate's advise and consent role should be regarded as less responsible than the President's choice.

15 posted on 09/12/2005 10:09:40 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

(Smile) Does google have an image-search function, yet?


16 posted on 09/12/2005 10:11:49 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

The black lady in the middle is our previous national doctor (surgen general) nominated by Clinton. The rest I would guess are "fans"


17 posted on 09/12/2005 10:22:12 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: fullchroma
Who are those people?

Jocelyn Elders, former Surgeon General (Klintoon's) and admirers...

18 posted on 09/12/2005 10:25:23 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Raebie

In all of the Brown-bashing going around, it would be helpful to remember that Brown did his job. He pre-positioned personnel and material in the area prior to the storm, and he had a Navy ship offshore ready to go.

In two of the three cities wiped out by the storm, the rescue took place as you would expect, as the state and local authorities and the people themselves stepped forward to do what needed to be done, with the help of Coast Guard, Red Cross, Navy, and other FEMA organized help.

In one of the three this didn't happen. In only one of the three, FEMA and Red Cross help was sealed out and the victims sealed in. Thats not Brown's doing.


19 posted on 09/12/2005 10:26:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: fullchroma

Yes its right at the very top, after you do a search you can hit image and all images related to your search will come up.

http://images.google.com/images?q=picture%20katrina&hl=en&hs=E6B&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official_s&sa=N&tab=wi


20 posted on 09/12/2005 10:29:41 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: pageonetoo
Jocelyn Elders, former Surgeon General (Klintoon's) and admirers...

Thanks. (That image is ripe for captioning: "Gee, Dr. Elders, please tell us all about self-gratification.")

21 posted on 09/12/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: aft_lizard

Thanks but I'm wondering about a function where you can enter an image and google finds its context on the web.


22 posted on 09/12/2005 10:36:51 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: fullchroma
Thanks. (That image is ripe for captioning: "Gee, Dr. Elders, please tell us all about self-gratification.")

I had captioned something similar, then thought better. I've already been suspended a couple of times...

24 posted on 09/12/2005 10:42:15 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo

A caption really isn't necessary for that one anyway, is it? Some images speak for themselves, no need to state the obvious.


25 posted on 09/12/2005 11:13:05 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: pageonetoo

Hey if those looters in New Orleans only used "safer bullets" like Jocelyn said, they wouldn't have had as much trouble rescuing people in New Orleans.


26 posted on 09/12/2005 11:17:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Spok
I still believe these are nothing but allegations, based upon conversations with people about things that happened 25 years ago, by the MSM with an agenda. My understanding is that the sources all dispute how their comments were interpreted and used. No one has looked at any FACTS.

Also, the original stories all referred to ONLINE BIOS of Michael Brown, written by someone other than himself. I don't know that ANYONE has ever used his actual RESUME in any of the analysis ....

Somehow the MSM has morphed "Online Bios" into "Resume" with malice, IMO.

Maybe there is more to this story, but I don't believe any FACTS or RESUME have entered into it yet. Michael Brown deserves better.
27 posted on 09/12/2005 12:09:39 PM PDT by Bush 100 Percent
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To: Raebie

CNN is reporting he has resigned.


28 posted on 09/12/2005 12:40:41 PM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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