Skip to comments.Disaster Canít Destroy Gun Rights
Posted on 09/12/2005 5:12:45 PM PDT by Nov3
National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre slammed New Orleans authorities Monday for seizing legal firearms from lawful residents.
"What weve seen in Louisiana - the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster - is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to allow citizens to protect themselves, " LaPierre said.
"When law enforcement isnt available, Americans turn to the one right that protects all the others - the right to keep and bear arms," LaPierre said. "This attempt to repeal the Second Amendment should be condemned."
The New York Times reported last Thursday that no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to have guns, quoting the superintendent of police that "only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."
A Louisiana state statute allows the chief law enforcement officer to "regulate possession" of firearms during declared emergencies. "But regulate doesnt mean confiscate," said Chris W. Cox, the NRAs chief lobbyist.
"Authorities are using that statute to do what the looters and criminals could not: disarm the law-abiding citizens of New Orleans trying to protect their homes and families," Cox said.
"The NRA will not stand idly by while guns are confiscated from law-abiding people whore trying to defend themselves," he said.
"Were exploring every legal option available to protect the rights of lawful people in New Orleans," Cox said, "and were taking steps to overturn such laws in every state where they exist."
"Local authorities in New Orleans are turning natures assault on human life into mans assault on human rights," LaPierre said. "Four million NRA members intend to stop this unconstitutional power grab."
A sea change has taken place with the events in New Orleans. We must react forcefully. If you haven't called your representatives and the NRA you are passively accepting the inevitable. If you hate the NRA, call the GOA etc. Do something. If this stands the 2cnd amendment is toast. (It may already be toast but we must try "for the children". I want my child to grow up in a country where there are some freedoms.)
P.s. To all the FR cops. I have seen very few of you denounce this. If the cops on FR support this - what must it be like in the rank and file.
Call them and tell them to take the actions they have outlined.
If the NRA is so committed to this, then the plan needs to be laid out for it membership in extreme detail...
Forget about the statute for now...That can be dealt with in due course...
#1 Suspend and investigate the officer who acted upon that woman in her own home...Get the full story out there whether it goes our way or not...
#2 Every single firearm confiscated under this inappropriate order will be located and returned to its owner before the end of the week...If a full attempt to return is not documented, and or the weapons not returned in an expiditious manner to their owners, the City of New Orleans will be fined $1000 per day, per firearm, till the issue is resolved...Period...This needs a court to rule on this unfortunately...Maybe our future CJ nominee can make an impact on this next month, first thing...
#3 Don't ever, ever do it again...Thats the message that needs to be tattooed under the eyelids of a few people in the country...Leave it alone...Guns are not the problem...
This seems extremely reasonable and do-able...Considering the offence these officials committed by exploiting a vague guideline within the law...
They know they were testing to see who would pop up and notice what they did...
Time to put a lid on it all...
And if any Law Enforcement in the FR community has a problem with my tone, please by all means contact me...I welcome the opinions of that community, and will be glad to clarify my opinion if you feel I may be critical of Law Enforcement, which I am not...
And let's strive to make it 8 million by next year...
["Local authorities in New Orleans are turning natures assault on human life into mans assault on human rights,"]
I believe the end of a free America and the bill of rights went out the door the day the five socialist supreme court judges allowed rich men to steal poor working class people's properties if they would pay higher taxes.
And no one in our conservative party has said or done a thing; the pubs are weak and foolish people and I don't belive they are worth voting for anymore.
Those cops who have done this should be prosecuted, stripped of their on own guns, and set out into the flood zone again armed only with tasers.
I want to them to pursue Federal Civil rights cases against the officers involved - individually. I want them bankrupted and their family destitute. That includes the police leadership. The OK NG too. Then there should be a general suit against the NO and LA government hopefully bankrupting them too. People need to hurt.
If there are any criminal proceedings they need to be handled to. I saw several assaults on those clips. There were HUNDREDS more we didn't see.
Amen, this cannot stand - it is a stake in our hearts.
Why do they get the tasers??
I think they sent a memo to the crickets outside my window.
The solution is simple. The pigs who obey illegal orders show up at your house, you ask to see their warrant. Don't worry, they won't have one. You reply "See ya later!" and close & lock the door in their faces.
If the JBT's (Jack-Booted Thugs) try to break down the door, you are in clear and present danger from criminal home invaders. Commence Firing! Fire at will.
Cause they'd be patrolling in water.
Really the NYers were already disarmed so we can't even call that a precedent!
Thanks for the ping.
Glad to hear this news. Our local San Antonio so called conservative radio talk show host had come out in support of the forced evacuations.
That was bad enough, but today when I turned him on he was peeing all over himself because he got to go down to NO and hang out with the National Guard and apparently with the BATF too. He said he was really impressed with the BATF. You should have heard him practically begging on the air to be invited into their circle so he could lick their boots some more. It was sickening.
I'll give a personal testimony to all FR's. I live in Florida and in last hurricane season my community was ravaged by two of the four hurricanes. There was no power, no immediate police protection, and no public services. We were ON OUR OWN. Florida gives easy access to firearms to all non-felons. We even have a right-to-carry law. As a precaution against possible looters I loaded my .38 Special. The important fact is that the criminals were very well aware that people all over the state were prepared to defend their lives and property. Guess what? There was no looting. In case anyone thinks my situation is anecdotal, I refer him to John Lott's many well researched books, especially "More Guns, Less Crime". The proven fact is that guns possessed by law-abiding citizens deters violent crimes. In our nanny state people have come to believe that at all times in every situation "somebody else" will look after them. But when you're really ALONE and there's no help -- who's going to protect your family and your property? ONLY YOU.
Did this loser advocate what is going on.
Hell they still can't find 400 or so NO cops. The ones they could find - a substantial number of them were looting.
Here's the bootlickers home page if you want to see what he looks like.
Yes, on the evacuations several days ago. He never said one word about people being disarmed, but to be fair, I couldn't even stand to listen to his whole show. He kind of changes topics though as he goes, so I'd bet he didn't.
He came out today with his unabashed love of the BATF, so between that and his support of the mandatory evacuation order, we can make a good guess as to how he feels about gun confiscation in this instance.
He's a puke.
He would fit in well on this site.
With some, yes.
I'd be a lot more glad if they would have led with a lawsuit or request for an injunction rather than a press release. They haven't quite figured out yet that the rules just changed.
Still it's encouraging that they at least seemed to feel the heat from the membership. Y'all did call or email or otherwise give 'em hell, didn't you? I did, but if you didn't do it NOW. You can use their contact form, or give them a call @1-800-392-8683
What do the mayor, the police chief et.al. care about the taxpayers having to pay a fine. Fine the Mayor and the police chief each $500 per day per firearm, with lessor fines for lower level folks.
Whew, I didn't think it would be Ricky or Trey, but am glad to hear it wasn't. :)
I want to watch the NOPD take the assault rifles away from the Blackwater Security guys and other mercenaries that have been hired to protect private property.
To be honest, I don't listen to radio much. I'm a musician so that might have something to do with it. Between normal thinking music plays inside my head anyway.
I'd like to send this guy a big black boot, with a sticker on it that says "Property of BATF. Lick here." :-)
I see that you pinged some post-2000 Freepers. Are they aware of what you really think about them, as you posted below?
".....[post-2000 Freepers] don't have a CLUE what the constitution is and readily support ignoring and trashing it when it suits their means. (As a general rule that is.)
You're all over the board, man. What exactly is your stand?
I really feel that this disaster gave the feds the opportunity to test their power against lawful gun-owners.
THIS IS ONLY A TEST! Be prepared for gun confiscation coming to a town near you. Disasters could be a blizzard, tornados, blackouts, gas shortages etc, whatever FEMA and the Feds want it to be.
Buy ammo and lots of it. It's getting scary out there. WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!! FREEDOMS AND ALL!!!!
but will the NRA put their money where their mouth is and start cases where the peopel will have their guns returned? Or did the NO PD just aquire more "drop guns".
Similarly after 9/11 everyone wore NYPD shirts with pride. NOBODY wants a NO PD t-shirt.
You really ought to pickup a copy and read it. You might discover your birthright. Unfortunately the reading might be above your head even though it is written in plain language. O'Reilly can help you with the interpretation!
Could you please ping this? It looks like the NRA is finally waking up.
(BTW this thread is just about Constitutional rights not something important like dogs! It really isn't something to get upset about. Go worry about the dogs it is a good post 2000 hot button issue - real important!)
Talk is cheap. Guns and ammo cost money. Guts are priceless.
Which of these do you have the most of?
Nov. 3rd is correct. Those who are paying attention to the likes of Bill O'Reiley are likely worthless. I figured him out when he dissed the Swift Boat Vets.
There is an opportunity here!
And notice when I was talking about the post 2000 freepers I said "as a general rule"! The rule must have applied judging from the reaction.
"I left the NOPD an all I got was a trip to Vegas"
and a Brand New soaking wet Plasma TV.
Oh no doubt. Some FReepers prefer dogs to people. That pit bull that mauled the children to death only did that because he was mistreated.
Of course, that doesn't hold up when they attack their benevolent owners and chew their ass up.
I love dogs and was sickened when I saw the BTK sherrif in his wife beater T-shirt getting his rocks off shooting people's pets. It disgusted me - but the real problem was the mandatory evac. The only people who are going to take care of the pets are the owners and they were having thier Rights trashed.