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LBJ's Great Society: 40 Years Later
Townhall Soapbox ^ | 9/12/2005

Posted on 09/12/2005 5:51:41 PM PDT by StoneGiant

LBJ's Great Society: 40 Years Later


1964 was a very busy year for Lyndon Johnson. First he rammed through Congress the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, giving him war powers in Vietnam. Next he signed into Law the now famous or infamous, depending on ones political slant, Civil Rights Act. He called this ambitious undertaking his "Guns and Butter" program. The first part of this equation to go sour was the war effort. Johnson treated the war like a political problem that he could solve by twisting the arms of Ho and Giap the same way he had got things done in the Senate for so many years. When this strategy failed to produce results he next tried to micro-manage the war from the Oval Office as if it were a giant chess game with our troops as the pawns. He went so far as to select bombing targets and to turn missions on and off like a switch with a carrot-on-a-stick approach to entice Ho to the peace table. Meanwhile on the home front, with his Great Society and War on Poverty programs, he was socially engineering our country into a welfare state while funding a military adventure overseas. When asked by a reporter if it was fiscally prudent to fund a war effort and his social programs at the same time he replied, "Heck yeah man, we're rich".

When Cronkite abandoned him on National TV, as he strolled through the ancient city of Hue with his battle helmet and somber intonations that we were mired in a quagmire and that it was time to seek peace, (code word for surrender), with honor, Johnson folded up like a wet tissue, tucked his tail between his legs, and slinked off back to his ranch in Texas.

As bad as his failure in Vietnam proved to be, the results of his Great Society Programs were far more insidious, deadly and injurious to our Nation's psyche. The mammoth social welfare entitlement programs that streamed out of Washington did more damage to the fabric of our society than any number of Vietnams could have done. The irony is, that the segment of our society that it meant to help, was the one that was most grievously harmed. Of all those who fell victim to the welfare mentality, none suffered more than the black communities.

In the fifties, although blacks were still struggling for equal oppertunities and were on the low end of the economic ladder, the black family was for the most part strong and stable. Two parent families were the rule, not the exception. They attended church together, had strong moral values, and did not comprise a majority of the prison population. Compare that to the present state of the black community after 40 years of Liberal Socialism. Our prisons are disproportionably black, unwed mothers and single parent families are the rule, black youths without a strong male role model other than rap stars and basketball players, roam the streets and are drawn into a culture of drugs and crime.

The following statistics are provided by Star Parker's Coalition of Urban Renewal, (CURE).



*60 percent of black children grow up in fatherless homes.

*800,000 black men are in jail or prison.

*70 percent of black babies are born to unwed mothers.

*Over 300,000 black babies are aborted annually.

*50 percent of new AIDS cases are in the black community.

*Almost half of young black men in America's cities are neither working nor in school. What we have here is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode.


What was the message of the social programs that came out of LBJ's Great Society? One of the most devestating to the family was that if an unwed woman became pregnant, moved out of the home of her parents, did not name or know who the father was, then Big Daddy in Washington would provide for all her essential needs. Ergo she no longer needed a husband or the support of her family. In fact, the more children she had out of wedlock, the more money she would receive from the government. This program was the death knell for many families, especially in the black community. Unfortunately many black men saw this as the best of all possible worlds. They could father as many children as they wanted, from multiple women, without ever having to accept the responsibility of fatherhood. Many women rejected marriage in favor of a boyfriend who could slip in the back door and not jeopardize her government check. In this dysfunctional culture why would education be important? Why seek an education only to have to compete for a good job in the market place when they could just hang around the neighborhood and have all of life's amenities? In fact studying and getting good grades, for many blacks, became a social stigma. They were called "Uncle Toms" and accused of trying to act "white". Many blacks who had the potential to succeed gave in to this pressure and opted for failure. After all they had the perfect excuse. Did not the NAACP and race hustlers like Jesse Jackson tell them that it was not their fault? That they were just innocent "victims" of white racism?



This is the legacy of LBJ's Great Society.....compassion as defined by Liberalism.

 

 

 


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1 posted on 09/12/2005 5:51:43 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant

to a "T"...


2 posted on 09/12/2005 5:57:56 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: StoneGiant

Detroit, the 'most liberal city in America' is proof of LBJ's minion socialist thinking.


3 posted on 09/12/2005 5:59:01 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: StoneGiant

This is the legacy of LBJ's Great Society.....compassion as defined by Liberalism.
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Pure liberalism and socialism. That is how LBJ wanted to buy votes -- the Great Society -- a tragic joke. Just look at Detroit, as the example above states. A very UGLY RESULT.


4 posted on 09/12/2005 6:02:20 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: StoneGiant

WELL PUT


5 posted on 09/12/2005 6:03:13 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: StoneGiant
Add one more negative legacy from the Great Society: How it was financed.

To find the money for his "guns and butter" programs, Johnson consolidated the federal government's operating budget and the Social Security budget.

As he himself put it, "Mah frens, we've got one pot of money oveh heah...and we're spendin' more than we're takin' in. Thass what we call it a daffacit.

"But oveh heah, we've got anothuh pot of money...and there's more goin' in than is goin' out. Thass what we call a surplus.

"And if we just put the two of 'em togethah, thar'd be as much comin' in as was goin' out. Thass what we call a balanced budget."

Thus was the vault opened up to Congressional raids and Social Security doomed...

6 posted on 09/12/2005 6:07:46 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: EagleUSA

Look at the modern New Orleans as well.


7 posted on 09/12/2005 6:08:16 PM PDT by zzen01
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To: zzen01

Look at the modern New Orleans as well.
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Good point. Really shows what the liberals/socialists are really worth to America and its people ---

** NOTHING **


8 posted on 09/12/2005 6:12:46 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: StoneGiant

"Ma fellow Americans...I come to you with a heavy heart, and 23% support among ma fellow Americans..."

9 posted on 09/12/2005 6:13:23 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: StoneGiant

Bookmark


10 posted on 09/12/2005 6:15:12 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: StoneGiant

Excellent post!


11 posted on 09/12/2005 6:16:08 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: quantim
Detroit, the 'most liberal city in America' is proof of LBJ's minion socialist thinking.

Sigh, Detroit is the New Orleans of the North.

12 posted on 09/12/2005 6:16:40 PM PDT by mombonn (íViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: My2Cents
In 1964, they said, "If you vote for Goldwater, we'll wind up in a war."

So, I voted for Goldwater....

13 posted on 09/12/2005 6:16:58 PM PDT by stboz
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To: StoneGiant
In 1948 LBJ stole the US Senate seat from Coke Stevenson by 248 votes statewide stacked in Starr County, TX, and went on to the Senate, and later became VP under Kennedy

Later on we knew that his favorite song was I love a Parade.

This guy did more damage to the fabric of the US than can ever be imagined.

We should never forget the ultra-lib McNamara advertising an airstrike which was outright treason with a loss of an almost entire squadron.

I drove through Johnson City, Texas a couple of years ago, and almost got nauseous.

14 posted on 09/12/2005 6:18:21 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: stboz

Precisely.


15 posted on 09/12/2005 6:18:27 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: StoneGiant

I couldn't agree with this article more. LBJ did more harm to this nation than most people realize! And now, we are seeing the fruits of his labor?


16 posted on 09/12/2005 6:18:39 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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17 posted on 09/12/2005 6:18:55 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: okie01

Through the CETA program, I got the necessary tools to go to work as a mechanic on the Alaskan pipein. By fronting me the tuition for a semester of trade school, and the cost of some tools, the great society got a working stiff pulling in 2 grand a week and paying beaucoup payroll taxes. So all not bad...


18 posted on 09/12/2005 6:20:48 PM PDT by at bay
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To: StoneGiant

Medicare is bankrupt already. The general budget is covering the deficit.


19 posted on 09/12/2005 6:21:19 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: StoneGiant

AFSC was the worst governmental action of the last 50 years (after Roe).


20 posted on 09/12/2005 6:22:08 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: StoneGiant
"The Congress is charged by the Constitution to "provide . . . for the general welfare of the United States." Our present abundance is a measure of its success in fulfilling that duty. Now Congress is being asked to extend that welfare to all our people."

--LBJ War on Poverty Speech, 1964.

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"

-- Hillary Clinton, 2004

21 posted on 09/12/2005 6:22:58 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: wrathof59

should have typed AFDC.


22 posted on 09/12/2005 6:24:08 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: StoneGiant

Texan Lyndon B. Johnson's "War On Poverty" should give an idea of how Texan George W. Bush's "War On Terror" will play out. Not to mention the War On Cancer, War On Drugs, War On Burger(s)....


23 posted on 09/12/2005 6:25:20 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: StoneGiant

Don't forget that "lady"bird (Who made an emense fortune over the VN War!!!) had her own li'l beautification project.

The family of a friend of mine owned a towing/wreckage company. She put slats in their fence to make things more lovely to look at.

snicker...


24 posted on 09/12/2005 6:27:12 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: oldtimer
I have no idea if any of the following is true, but if you dislike LBJ as much as I do...
Source - I worked at the LBJ Library for about a year.  I would cue up the tapes on a reel-to-reel player, put on headphones, and, working a foot pedal to rewind, pause, or fast-forward, transcribe interviews that had been conducted with people who had known Johnson at different times of his life.

Most of the interviewees spoke glowingly, and fondly, of Johnson; even those who were critical of Johnson... And yet, despite everyone's best efforts, what emerged from this Citizen Kane-like mosaic of interviews was not a pretty picture. For nothing could gloss over the fact that Lyndon Johnson was an overbearing, ruthless, sociopathic, power-mad monster.  He was politician enough to know how to charm when he had to, but the mask could easily slip, and often did.

He would dictate letters and conduct meetings while sitting on the toilet. He would fondle other women in front of other people, including his wife, Lady Bird. And, if he were walking past the White House swimming pool, he would suddenly strip naked, right in front of everyone, and jump in.

snip


25 posted on 09/12/2005 6:31:16 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: mombonn

See my new tagline.


26 posted on 09/12/2005 6:33:05 PM PDT by quantim (Detroit is the New Orleans of the North, above sea level.)
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To: StoneGiant

Good essay...up to a point. A proper essay is supposed to posit a solution for the problem it identifies.


27 posted on 09/12/2005 6:39:00 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: StoneGiant
This article sets in stone random thoughts I've had for years. Thanks for posting this.

An absolutely perfect description of the "Great Society."

I had many discussions with friends about this in 1964 as it was coming to a head. We all thought it was a bad idea. But none of us came close to predicting the disaster it has become.

If he were around today, I wonder what LBJ would think of what his program has wrought?

28 posted on 09/12/2005 6:39:34 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: StoneGiant

This article states that 60 percent of blacks are born out of wedlock, but I've seen statistics that put this number at 70 percent. Before Johnson launched his "Great Society," just 20 percent of blacks were born out of wedlock. This is a staggering figure.

The question is this: how much longer will blacks continue to marginalize themselves by voting for Democrats?


29 posted on 09/12/2005 6:41:55 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: upchuck
The Scottish Jurist and Historian Sir Alex Fraser Tyler published a collection of lectures in 1801. He advanced a theory of democracy based on historical observation:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesses from the public treasury. From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury...
Too bad LBJ didn't read Tyler.
30 posted on 09/12/2005 6:42:52 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Doctor Schotic, "Texan Lyndon B. Johnson's 'War On Poverty' should give an idea of how Texan George W. Bush's 'War On Terror' will play out. Not to mention the War On Cancer, War On Drugs, War On Burger(s)...."

Well then that settles it. The War on Communism, the War on Slavery, and the War on Nazism were also farces. So how do want to surrender? Will you convert to Shia Islam or Sunni Islam?


31 posted on 09/12/2005 6:45:39 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: stboz
In 1964, they said, "If you vote for Goldwater, we'll wind up in a war."

In 1964 I was 21. I meet and shook hands with LBJ in downtown Milwaukee during his campaign. To my everlasting shame, I voted for him in my first election. I can honestly say I have never voted for another democrat.

Regards,
GtG
(I learn quick!)

32 posted on 09/12/2005 6:47:15 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: StoneGiant

exactly


33 posted on 09/12/2005 6:47:16 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: DumpsterDiver
I wrote the LBJ Library a letter asking them how wealthy he was at his demise. The response was "we don't know, he was very generous to Lady Bird".
I suspect he took a multitude of millions in kickbacks?
34 posted on 09/12/2005 6:48:43 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: upchuck
Too bad LBJ didn't read Tyler.

Obviously George W. Bush didn't read Tyler either. America is turning into a nanny state.

35 posted on 09/12/2005 7:02:41 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: StoneGiant
"LBJ's Great Society: 40 Years Later"

I call it "The beginning of the end" of our great society!

LBJ = dirtbag!

36 posted on 09/12/2005 7:04:58 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland
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To: stboz
So, I voted for Goldwater....

I saw Goldwater on TV once commenting on various political figures he had contact with.He was mostly civil until Johnson came along.It was obvious that he despised the man,his comments were that Johnson came to Washington in virtual poverty and left a multimillionaire.It was not hard to understand the implication of graft and corruption.

37 posted on 09/12/2005 7:05:10 PM PDT by carlr
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To: investigateworld

"we don't know, he was very generous to Lady Bird".

HA! Damned nice of him, considering SHE was the one with the serious money! LBJ had nothing but his hands in his pockets until he met Lady Bird, and many speculated her wealth was what he loved most about her.

LBJ was a manipulative, backstabbing SOB who would do anything for power. Compared to him, Clinton was a poser and a punk. (But they were probably equals as physical cowards and shameless liars.)


38 posted on 09/12/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: DumpsterDiver

The Caro biographies paint a stark portrait of the mad emperor. He was faithless to everyone, especially his friends.

Worst presidents ever for the damage they did:
1. LBJ (Viet Nam, diplomacy, the welfare state, treasonous cabinet members
2. Clinton (surrender to terror, possible alliances with terrorists, you know the rest)
3. FDR (welfare state, surrender of Eastern Europe to the communists, welcoming communists into government)
4. Carter (for giving us Iran) but forgiven for giving us Reagan.


39 posted on 09/12/2005 7:18:58 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: StoneGiant

We saw LBJ's "Great Society" sitting on their butts waiting for the government to save them in NO. Three generations of people with no initiative because the government check is in the mail to keep them alive and voting Democrat...that is LBJ's legacy.


40 posted on 09/12/2005 7:23:05 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Texan Lyndon B. Johnson's "War On Poverty"

We have fought the war on poverty for 40 years and sad to say but poverty has won. So much for the LBJ legacy.

41 posted on 09/12/2005 7:27:33 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: StoneGiant
That is a very accurate picture of the LBJ Legacy and the moral decay of our society.

I wonder what kind of pitcher we will see from the Clinton Legacy 40 years from now as it relates to our National Security and the total destruction of it
42 posted on 09/12/2005 7:35:45 PM PDT by MisouriMule (We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.)
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To: StoneGiant

The article doesn't mention it, but Johnson's "Guns and Butter" program was financed, not only by raiding Social Security, but also by printing money. Along with everything else he ruined, he depreciated our currency drastically. The inflation that hit us after he left office was due to his fiscal policies.


43 posted on 09/12/2005 7:45:24 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
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To: upchuck
Too bad LBJ didn't read Tyler.

What makes you think he didn't: "From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury..."

44 posted on 09/12/2005 7:48:54 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: upchuck
If he were around today, I wonder what LBJ would think of what his program has wrought?

I should think he'd be rather pleased at how well it has cemented the black vote for the Democrats.

45 posted on 09/12/2005 7:51:40 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: oldtimer
This guy did more damage to the fabric of the US than can ever be imagined.

Agree. In my opinion, he is one of the worst POTUS we've ever had.

46 posted on 09/12/2005 8:05:05 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: StoneGiant

Clinton may have been the slimiest
Carter may have been the most incompetent
But LBJ did far more damage to this country than both combined.


47 posted on 09/12/2005 8:07:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: stboz
In 1964, they said, "If you vote for Goldwater, we'll wind up in a war." So, I voted for Goldwater....

And they were right. :)

48 posted on 09/12/2005 8:08:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: janetgreen

More than a few here will be offended or angered by that statement. But I completely agree with it.


49 posted on 09/12/2005 8:11:47 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: StoneGiant
Good stuff.

LBJ`s Great Society programs of the 1960`s set the wheels of liberalism into motion. Let's compare the budget spending associated with human resources, AKA. social welfare spending, in 1965 and bounce them off the budget numbers from 1985 and 2005. To get a clearer picture lets include defense spending from the same years, 1965, 1985, 2005. It's not a pretty picture.

In 1965 under LBJ, the feds spent 30.9% of the budget on human resources. In 1985 under Reagan, the feds spent 49.9% of the budget on human resources. In 2005 under Bush43, the feds will spent 64% of the budget on human resources.

In 1965 under LBJ, the feds spent 42.8% of the budget on defense. In 1985 under Reagan, the feds spent 26.7% of the budget on defense. In 2005 under Bush43, the feds will spent 18.8% of the budget on defense.

As defense spending has dropped dramatically in the last 40 years, spending on social welfare programs has gone through the roof and liberalism is mainly to blame.

50 posted on 09/12/2005 8:22:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders;punish employers who hire illegals;halt all welfare handouts to illegals.)
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