Posted on 09/13/2005 12:41:10 PM PDT by rface
Dear Editor, the Tribune:
How can you think that only terrorists, loyalists and extremists fight the American soldiers? What would you do if China occupied this country and you were randomly searched and jailed and your family members and friends were killed?
The insurgents are like me and you. They defend their homeland. The foreign occupiers insult them, shoot up mosques, steal their oil, shoot up hospitals and leave cancer-causing radioactive pieces of ammunition lying all over the place. The citizens have little electricity, clean water, medicine, food, oil and, most of all, security. At any time they could be shot by a soldier, a criminal or an Iraqi policeman. Ever been jailed for something unjust? Harassed by a cop? Had a vehicle-mounted machinegun pointed at your head?
I dont know about you, but I get really pissed off when a cop pats me down, feels my crotch and thinks he can do whatever he wants because he represents the law and has a gun. Imagine a whole army doing that in your country. Imagine jets screaming overhead, never knowing when a bomb is going to drop next to you. Imagine watching your child being blown apart. Imagine riding in a car and getting killed by a couple of 20-year-olds manning a barricade. How many of you would fight back? I mean, what are you going to do, just submit to all of the humiliation, death and rape of your country?
Mark Speckman
(address deleted, but available at link)
Columbia, Missouri
Then, please, don't think it speaks for me.
Except for that whole killing innocents at random thing.
We don't have troops in Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran.
“I’d like to have a band,” he says, “but I’d rather be the band.”
Read it and weep....another moonbat.
http://columbiamissourian.com/features/story.php?ID=15183
The war on terror will be tough to win with so many out-and-out traitors in our midst.
This is "MAN the Lifeboats!!!" Hippie-Activists-grade Hogwash.
Where were you when Saddam was in charge...?
Yea, Saddam Hussein was such wonderful man and benevolent leader!! s/o
While the authory's attempt to empathize with his fellow man is laudable, perhaps someone should point out that the vast majority of the 'insurgents' are simply another contingent of foreign occupiers, and unlike our American forces, want to stay indefinitely to impose brutal 7th century laws on Iraq, rather then set up a democratic constitution and leave (with the possible exception of any invited to stay on leased bases).
Perhaps someone might also point out to him that the majority of the Iraqi insurgents hope to reestablish themselves at the helm of a government which perpetually subjects their fellow citizens to the sort of indignities he describes, and worse, as was done under the former Ba'athist regime.
This guy is very lucky that so many have sacrificed for his right to drivel. This guy needs serious help if he cannot tell the good guys from the bad even with the MSM spin on things.
How would I feel if 41 hadn't left office in 2001, but instead held on to power illegally? Wacos and Arkancide became commonplace. What if rape rooms and toturariums were run by totally out of control federal officers? And then some nation invaded and was making moves to return my government to me. How would I feel? I would be grateful. And shocked. The US is the only nation that does that shtick.
Mark Speckman, electronic music, 9 p.m. at Cherry Street Artisan, 111 S. Ninth St.
Karaoke 9 p.m. at Peppers, 4515 Highway 763 N.; no cover.
Str8 Arrow 9 p.m. at Midway Backdoor Lounge, Interstate 70 and Highway 40; $3.
Except that most of the "insurgents" are not Iraqis.
The insurgents are former Sunni goons who engaged in brutal minority rule over larger Shia and Kurd populations.
If this were minority rule white South Africans bombing blacks in South Africe to try and regain power, I doubt this liberal pinhead would speak so glowingly of them.
But it's the exact same situation - except that the Baathists were far more brutal than Apartheid...
Any freepers from Columbia, MO? Can you confirm that the cops there are big gay molesters?
If my country was lead by such a murdering psycopath, I would welcome another country coming to aid and liberate me.
Electronic music, like on Sprockets?!
I sure hope nobody heckles Speckman...
I don't know Mark, how about this: Me being one of your countrymen, decide to rape your sister with about 10 of my friends. And then we decide to jam an icepick in your mother's eye sockets. And then for good measure we sodomize your father with a fencepost. But there is nothing you can do about it because I am connected and I have the Army backing me. Would you then welcome liberators to free you and your family from my iron grip you SELFISH A$$HOLE!?!
I bet this guy gets stopped by the police and patted down ofted. He probably looks like a drug user or dealer.
Dear Mark:
How long have you lived in Iraq? You don't? Well, then, how many times have you visited Iraq? You haven't?
Hmmm. Imagine that.
264 foreigners - leaving 17 presumed to be Iraqis.
Last week another 200 were killed or captured in one city. 150 were foreigners. Mark Speckman = ignorant moron
I'm sure all those raves he's attended cranked up on Xtasy and playing with glowsticks has given him a high level understanding of the Iraq situation.
Someone needs to tell this nancy boy clown the majority of civilian deaths are at the hands of his misunderstood resistence fighters coming from places like Jordan, SA, and Yemen and they go by the title of Al-Queda.
I wonder if the leftists would support China in an effort to oust President Bush and hold a new election?
Every week we see these insurgents car bomb theie own people and then follow with another bomb at the hospital. Today it was a restaurant. I guess rface will kill us when the Chinese
come.
I blow up candy-seeking children at every opportunity I don't know about you.
Aided and abetted by the Treason Media at every opportunity.
He's confusing Americans on-site cooperating with a legitimate regime with that of Saddam Hussein and his boys, who slaughtered and starved the nation, poisoned them, created Rape Rooms and prisons for 5 year old boys, who fed people into Plastic Shredders, etc.
Umm, what does this scenario have to do with our presence in Iraq? Absolutely nothing. The author is publicly declaring his utter ignorance on the subject for all to see.
Congressman Billybob
Admit it: it turns you on. ;)
John / Billybob
rface is all about "sensitivity" and elevated estrogen levels. He'll have retired to a cave wearing a burka long before they get here.
it's what gives Mark all that expertise. Determined ignorance.
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This Speckman dude has lots of problems whereof this idiotic missive only scratches the surface.
"How can you think that only terrorists, loyalists and extremists fight the American soldiers?"
Perhaps because such thoughts are in conformance with the facts. And you, dear author, don't know what you are talking about.
I have my "sensitive moments", but I didn't write what I posted, nor do I identify with its points
rface Mr. Speckman is all about "sensitivity" and elevated estrogen levels.
I know nothing about rface
Sounds like this is a really familiar routine for Mr. Speckman. Whatcha been doin', Mark?
It just makes ya so darned mad ya want to write a letter to the editor about Iraq. Yeah. Right.
Interesting, I have never beheaded anyone, or set a roadside or car bomb to blow up innocent women and children. Apparently you have.
The citizens have little electricity, clean water, medicine, food, oil and, most of all, security.
The coalition has rebuilt the electrical grid and more kilowatts are available for more hours of the day and month than prewar. The coalition has rebuilt the water and sewer system and now provide more fresh water and waste treatment than prewar. They have opened up hospitals all across the country and also provide services at their base facilities. They have built or repaired hundreds of schools. They have provided food, re-opened irrigation channels and re-flooded the marshes in the south that were drained by Sadaam to punish the Shites. They have insured that every dollar of oil money is turned over the the Iraqi government and worked around the world to get old debts forgiven.
On the other hand, the insurgents have blown up electrical and sanitary infrastructure. They blow up oil pipelines. They torture and kill Iraqis who take advantage of coalition services. They have not opened a single school, hospital, service facility, fed the hungry or cared for the weak. They have killed more Iraqi civilians in their bombings than the coalition has in collateral damage.
Imagine watching your child being blown apart.
It isn't hard to imagine because we saw the suicide bomber intentionally drive into the group of children getting candy from the American soldiers. We've seen the results of the car bombs and the suicide bombers that have killed hundreds and hundreds of innocent Iraqi women and children.
I mean, what are you going to do, just submit to all of the humiliation, death and rape of your country?
No. And that is why the Iraqis are fighting back against the insurgents and trying to reclaim their country for these brutal, heartless, soulless Islamic extremists. Fortunately, they are gaining ground and the day that Iraqis will be free to enjoy the liberty provided by the coalitions' sacrifice grows closer, day by day.
You can let the article speak for itself...unless of course you are actually interested in the truth, in which case the article is less than worthless. It is profane.
"Barf Alert" would have helped clear up that issue ;o)
"To understand resistance, put yourself in Iraqis’ shoes"
I have had this conversation with my relatives! Folks like this do not want to be bothered with facts regarding the previous dictatorship, genocide, and oppression of Saddam's regime. That the terrorists are fighting to establish a totalitarian government means absolutely nothing to them. Rather than putting themselves in Iraqi shoes, they put Iraqi shoes on their ideology.
3 to 1 Mr. Speckman is a sophomore.
'sophos', 300 BC: `wise'
sophomoric, 2005: 'brave liberal thoughts parroted by everyone in the political scince dept.
He's just mad `cause the Tigers got thumped.
I believe the whole post fails to understand the roll of the Iraqi government. With a request they could end the "occupation", but they don't. The real question is how come the average Iraqi does not support ending the violence and allowing the democratic resolution of their differences. If I were an Iraqi, I would be fighting the insurgents side by side with the occupiers. Of course this would make me a target of the insurgents. The truth is that from the Iraqi's position, there is a lot of fear, but it is not fear of the Americans. Nor is the "humiliation" that hard to understand.
Yeah, life's good under Saddam. I'd sure be upset if the Americans came.
Idiot.
Yeah, life's good under Saddam. I'd sure be upset if the Americans came.
Idiot.
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