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Why Google Didn't Put Up A 9/11 Logo Commemoration
self (Vanity Post) | 09-14-05 | imintrouble

Posted on 09/14/2005 5:37:46 AM PDT by imintrouble

Earlier this week we discussed the 9/11 Anniversary and one writer mentioned that Google had not placed a logo or identifying symbol on their opening page. I wrote an e-mail and received a reply.

I just sent an e-mail in return reminding them that I will not forgot to look next year to see what they have "come up with", and as far as "hurt feelings" of the international commuity, I thought Google was still a U.S. corporation. In addition there were lives from other nations lost in that tragedy.

A logo needn't be their "only answer" in opting to ignore the anniversary (which was their primary intent)... a simple phrase "We will never forget" would have sufficed. "Lest we forget" has done well in our memorials to WWI and WWII.

I also wrote their bias is showing through in their banner ads and their links for the general public and I personally feel if they are going to become a political activist company, I will spread the word to stop utilizing their services.

The sheer numbers of abstinence may make them think twice about where they are going in their philosophies or whether they intend to cover all spectrums of ideological belief.

Their response is as follows:

"Thank you for your note. We would like to explain to you why we didn't post a Google holiday logo for September 11 this year. As an international company, we'd like our logos to reflect the diverse, global nature of our user base. The decision whether to display a special logo for a holiday doesn't reflect any judgment on our part about the holiday itself.

Furthermore, Google's special logos tend to be lighthearted in nature. If we were to commemorate September 11, we'd want to express reverence, rather than mirth. This would be a particularly challenging design. We would not want to, in any way, create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful. In light of the mail we've received about this, we're actively considering designs we could display on this day next year. We welcome any suggestions you may have.

Regards, The Google Team"


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Thank you FreeRepublic - that I have the space here to rant against something I feel is a burgeoning illness in our country and it is becoming worse.

Americans must unite or we will lose our freedoms given to us by the lives of others in defense of those freedoms.

1 posted on 09/14/2005 5:37:47 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble

Amen to that


2 posted on 09/14/2005 5:40:09 AM PDT by TruthFactor
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To: imintrouble

Um. I could have sworn they had a ribbon up for the past couple of weeks in support of Hurrican Katrina victims. Hardly and international incident and hardly "lighthearted in nature."


3 posted on 09/14/2005 5:42:25 AM PDT by elc
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To: imintrouble
I stopped using those lefties long time ago. They can shove their 'internationality' where the sun don't shine.
4 posted on 09/14/2005 5:42:39 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: imintrouble
"In light of the mail we've received about this, we're actively considering designs we could display on this day next year."

BS. People have been writing them about this for 3 years now (and no action has ever been taken).

They say...

September 11, 2002: "we're considering designs we could display next year"

September 11, 2003: "we're considering designs we could display next year"

September 11, 2004: "we're considering designs we could display next year"

and yet again, this year:

September 11, 2005: "we're considering designs we could display next year"

C'mon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 posted on 09/14/2005 5:43:52 AM PDT by jdm
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To: imintrouble
Regards, The Google Team

Do you suppose there's a "Mrs. Team" who named her child "The"?

Screw Google. I avoid them whenever possible.

6 posted on 09/14/2005 5:43:56 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: imintrouble

Google News is a total outrage. When you search Google's so-called news site, it brings up lefty blogs like OpEd News and sources like Media Matters [the polar opposite of Brent Bozell's Media Research]. Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs has long complained about how pro-American views and sources are filtered out in Google News.


7 posted on 09/14/2005 5:44:52 AM PDT by CreviceTool
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To: imintrouble

International, diverse and global are nice words from some more rich and powerful liberals. I am still so confused how liberals have money. When I gre up I was taught by libs that they hated money and power because they corrupt. Now we find out that the rich and powerful are often liberals. I am so confused.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 5:46:06 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: imintrouble

I suspect that Google is going to blow it by getting political to a greater and greater extent. They are successful now because they are seen as a neutral party that helps with all things. But I don't think they are going to be able to resist the temptation to try to use their successful position to start pushing the standard Idiot Lefty line. At that point, they will sacrifice the characteristic of univeriality which is the only reason they were successful in the first place.

If Google is still a major player in five years, I will be very surprised.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 5:46:27 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: elc
"Um. I could have sworn they had a ribbon up for the past couple of weeks in support of Hurrican Katrina victims. Hardly and international incident and hardly "lighthearted in nature."

If true that speaks volumes. Pretty much says (without saying anything) that people who die from terrorism aren't important. Gee, big surprise there. (sarcasm)
10 posted on 09/14/2005 5:47:15 AM PDT by jdm
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To: imintrouble
A 9-11 tribute? Are you kidding? Google didn't even acknowledge Christmas Day! They had some polar bears frolicking over the course of a week or so, but absolutely NO indication that Dec. 25th was any different than any other day in Dec. On New Year's Day, the polar bear and some friends were having a party.

The designs must reflect the preferences of the person creating them.

11 posted on 09/14/2005 5:47:38 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CreviceTool; All
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs has long complained about how pro-American views and sources are filtered out in Google News

I'd love to stop using Google--I noticed the lack of a 9/11 tribute too.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a better search engine?

12 posted on 09/14/2005 5:48:28 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: imintrouble
In light of the mail we've received about this, we're actively considering designs we could display on this day next year. We welcome any suggestions you may have.

How about a Red Crescent of Embrace?

13 posted on 09/14/2005 5:48:52 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: imintrouble

Holiday? Stupid wankers.


14 posted on 09/14/2005 5:49:09 AM PDT by BadAndy (Yes liberals, I DO question your patriotism.)
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To: imintrouble

I'm pretty sure that whether or not Google posts a logo for a day has nothing to do with the continued existence of our freedoms. In fact, I would posit that outrage over Google's logo - or lack thereof - is more of a threat.


15 posted on 09/14/2005 5:49:19 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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To: imintrouble

"As an international company, we'd like our logos to reflect the diverse, global nature of our user base.....We would not want to, in any way, create a graphic that could be interpreted as disrespectful"

Assuming that the world (not just NY) was attacked on Sept 11, who the hell are they going to offend...THE TERRORISTS? I would think ignoring the whole thing would be more disrespectful of the victims (and their families).


16 posted on 09/14/2005 5:49:23 AM PDT by RangerM (Perhaps he was comfortable within his skin)
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To: imintrouble

Too much self-appreciating "***Symbolism over Substance***" already in this country.

The GOOGLE logo as a "SOLIDARITY" symbol?

Velcom to the Gulag! Where ***Symbolism over Substance*** always wins!


17 posted on 09/14/2005 5:53:24 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: imintrouble

I wondered why that did not put one up myself.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 5:53:25 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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To: imintrouble

Many people of many different nationalities died on 9/11, I don't think it gets much more international than that.


19 posted on 09/14/2005 5:53:33 AM PDT by kx9088
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To: proud American in Canada

Dogpile. Uses multiple search engines


20 posted on 09/14/2005 5:56:15 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: imintrouble

I'm considering using Google next year.


21 posted on 09/14/2005 5:56:34 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: gridlock

I suspect that Google is going to blow it by getting political to a greater and greater extent. They are successful now because they are seen as a neutral party




they haven't been neutral since Bush won in 2000


22 posted on 09/14/2005 5:56:57 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Cold Heart

Thank you! :)


23 posted on 09/14/2005 5:57:48 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: kx9088

And besides that, the foreign google sites (like www.google.de) do not show the special holiday logos anyway.


24 posted on 09/14/2005 5:58:37 AM PDT by flieger (Go Angie! / No more Moore please!!!)
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To: imintrouble

they do a big spill for Christmas and other holidays,,wonder how their islamanac friends feel about that?


25 posted on 09/14/2005 5:59:02 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: imintrouble

They publish all the logos they have used throughout their existence at
http://www.google.com/intl/en/holidaylogos.html
Alot of them seem location specific.

I support Google's right to post whatever they want, just as I support customers/users to vote with their feet/wallet.


26 posted on 09/14/2005 5:59:21 AM PDT by DancesWithBolsheviks (Celebrate E Pluribus Unum)
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To: imintrouble
Thank you FreeRepublic - that I have the space here to rant against something I feel is a burgeoning illness in our country and it is becoming worse.

Pssst. FR didn't have a memorial anything up either. The day is defined by an attack on our country not a few squiggly lines on a logo.

27 posted on 09/14/2005 5:59:27 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: flieger
And besides that, the foreign google sites (like www.google.de) do not show the special holiday logos anyway.

crap, you just HAD to get that in before my little rant

lol

28 posted on 09/14/2005 6:00:23 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: imintrouble

I got the same form reply for Memorial day. Funny Earth Day, now that they can have a logo for.

Screw em, will just use one of the alternative search engines.


29 posted on 09/14/2005 6:00:58 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: imintrouble
As an international company, we'd like our logos to reflect the diverse, global nature of our user base

So why did Google show a black ribbon for a month after 7/7?
30 posted on 09/14/2005 6:02:22 AM PDT by English Nationalist
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To: imintrouble

Here's a thought. The companies that pay google to be placed at the top of the search, pay for each click on their link. ( I doubt if they pay more than once per person, so no point in hitting tehm multiple times.)

It might be interesting, however, to email these companies and tell them that you do no wish to patronize anyone who pays google, and by doing so, contributes to political parties you oppose.


31 posted on 09/14/2005 6:02:59 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: imintrouble

As the article states, their Google adwords is just plain awful. They feed so many left-wing political ads that I just dropped them after a few weeks of trying to filter all the garbage ads out.


32 posted on 09/14/2005 6:03:19 AM PDT by Mulch (tm)
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To: imintrouble

Hey, they didn't put a cute logo for the 4th of July either. I sent an e-mail and by the end of the day a logo appeared. At the time I thought is was an oversight but now I'm sure the patriotism of the 4th of July is just too much to bear for these kooks.


33 posted on 09/14/2005 6:03:24 AM PDT by NoExpectations
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To: sure_fine
...they haven't been neutral since Bush won in 2000

Yes, but the public perception is that they have been neutral. Eventually, they will become so outrageous that this perception will change. As soon as that happens, they are lost.

34 posted on 09/14/2005 6:05:09 AM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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To: lugsoul
In fact, I would posit that outrage over Google's logo - or lack thereof - is more of a threat.

It's not so much that people insist on Google's having logos in the first place, it's that people are pointing out the leftist bias they demonstrate in their choice of which holidays or important days to commemorate, and how they design logos on Christian holidays or days that are significant in American history.

35 posted on 09/14/2005 6:05:16 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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Well the power of the people can be very powerful when people using their services IS their business.

I post on a site in Canada which is conservative in their primary ideology and advertises as such, however to finance their site, they utilize Google Ads - and some of the anti-Bush ads are outrageous.

These people have grown way beyond their need. I don't see ads in Dictionaries or Research Collections. The use and purchase of the service is the business right?

Not political activism.

I will use other engines as often as I can if their claim to fame is hits. We can certainly give them what they deserve for their lies...... shunning.


36 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:19 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: gedeon3

I use Google exclusively as my search engine. Excellent results.


37 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:10 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: proud American in Canada

If that is your take, then my response is the same: Google's leftist bias is not an existential threat to any freedoms we have.


38 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:28 AM PDT by lugsoul (Sleeper troll since 1999.)
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"...we'd like our logos to reflect the diverse, global nature of our user base."

You mean they wouldn't want to put up anything that would offend the international terrorist community. Afterall, terrorists google too!

39 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:33 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: lugsoul
I'm pretty sure that whether or not Google posts a logo for a day has nothing to do with the continued existence of our freedoms. In fact, I would posit that outrage over Google's logo - or lack thereof - is more of a threat.

I agree. Personally I don't like the idea of memorializing a day we got our collective asses kicked by a bunch of dropouts.

40 posted on 09/14/2005 6:10:27 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: proud American in Canada
Does anyone have a recommendation for a better search engine?

Yahoo search is pretty good. I just did a vanity search on both Google and Yahoo. Google found KarlInOhio on www.freerepublic.com 425 times. Yahoo found my name 5620 here.

41 posted on 09/14/2005 6:10:33 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theatre with the Constitution)
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To: imintrouble
I personally don't give a crap what Google "commemorates", and can't imagine why anyone would.

Then again, I've never once clicked on a sponsored link, and therefore merely leech off the service and bring no revenue to the company, and as thus they should not care what I think.

I think people get too wrapped up in "memorials" and symbolism. Certain events can become the basis of a cult. Instead of recongizing something for what it is (a really F'ed up criminal action that our border policy allowed to happen and knew would eventually happen), we see it as some kind tie that binds some peopel together .... almost like an organized religion.

20,000 Americans are murdered yearly. Islamists are pretty far down the list of actual threats to the average American. How many of us commemorate the other 17,000? Should Google keep a running tally on their homepage, which is reset every year? How about a yellow ribbon for each person ... until the page has 20,000 ribbons in December?

Just live your life and don't worry about what little graphic Google does/doesn't put under their little textbox. You'll be happier. Seriously, you will.

And I had a relative in the Pentagon that partially lost their hearing, and HE doesn't want to hear (no pun intended) about frigging 9/11 anymore either. Nobody forgot it. Unless you are Momento, how could you forget it? And if you did forget it, a banner probably won't help as you would forget it the day after.

He doesn't need a stinking Google banner to remind him that he narrowly missed getting plowed by an airplane. He's moved on with his life. Seriously, what's the point? Oh yeah, 4 years ago 9/11 happened! There. Now what?

The border is still open. That is what should scare you.

42 posted on 09/14/2005 6:10:44 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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Yahoo search is pretty good. I just did a vanity search on both Google and Yahoo. Google found KarlInOhio on www.freerepublic.com 425 times. Yahoo found my name 5620 here.

I knew Yahoo sucked, you just confirmed it.

P.S. It was a joke ;-)

43 posted on 09/14/2005 6:13:46 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: imintrouble
When I was getting ready to publish my Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread this weekend, knowing that this Sunday was September 11th, I used Google to search for some of the quotes from President Bush on that terrible day. What I got was NOT what I had in mind!

The search "Bush Quotes", gave me every moonbat site that hated the President. There were quotes that were simply not true (ones that "showed" his so-called stupidity, quotes that had previously been supposedly said by Algore and Dan Quayle, for example), or just used his words out of context. Try it yourselves.

Oh yeah. Darryl Worley had a fine song in Have You Forgotten?. IMO, too many of our countrymen have. Especially our blue state brothers and sisters. Politics trump proper respect of murdered Americans and outrage at our enemies, especially if it makes a Republican President they hate look good. The Left hates Republicans/Conservatives far more than the terrorists that kill us. As long as they have that attitude, they'll remain a minority party, God willing!

44 posted on 09/14/2005 6:14:23 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Not "if true" they had a black "ribbon" and now they've got a simple text link named "hurricane Katrina relief."

I've seen all kinds of things 'celebrated' in their logos from moon landing anniversary, to Mars rovers to dead artist's birthdays.

45 posted on 09/14/2005 6:15:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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To: imintrouble

Frankly, this is pretty low on my list of things that matter.

Basically, everyone is upset because a company chooses to do business under its own logo, and we're fussing because they didn't change the design for one day to recognize a very sad historical event that isn't even a holiday?

I know some will scold me for characterizing 911 that way, but it's true. And whether Google (or WalMart, or Toyota, or Home Depot, etc.) choose to decorate their places of business is just irrelevant to me.

Sept.11, to me, should be a day of quiet reflection rather than one of celebration. One of Google's silly little logos would probably offend you, too. This is probably a no-win situation for them.

It's a free country, remember?

Give it up and spend your time on something important.


46 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:10 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: imintrouble

Once again, bloggers outperform the media. I didn't even know Google failed to do that, but it's interesting to read their response. Thanks for posting.

Their logos don't support international causes all the time. They have "Holiday" designs. Do they celebrate Ramadan? Islam is an international religion.

They don't want to offend anyone. Then better google the best method for wrist-slitting, because you're going to be offending someone somewhere all the time.

Was it a "challenging" design to make a reverent logo? Heaven forbid we "challenge" Google's image department with concocting a logo to pay respects to the 3,000 who faced some "challenges" on 9/11!

Do you Yahoo? You should now.


47 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:17 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: RGSpincich

Thank you FreeRepublic - that I have the space here to rant against something I feel is a burgeoning illness in our country and it is becoming worse.

Your comment to my above statement:
"Pssst. FR didn't have a memorial anything up either. The day is defined by an attack on our country not a few squiggly lines on a logo."

Excuse me - Free Republic provided huge football fields of space for all our tributes.

There is no comparison between a logo and what we were allowed on FR and an aftershock such as my rant today.

I see you are not one to appreciate the "freedoms" offered quietly with respect and those never offered. I happen to appreciate the many freedoms offered by companies and groups which enhance my own life, such as the men and women fighting or guarding our country, the people in emergency mode in the south, and FreeRepublic for the space they and their donors offer to me for my outbursts!




48 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:53 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble

Didn't bother me.


49 posted on 09/14/2005 6:19:16 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Stu Cohen

Well said, I agree with you.


50 posted on 09/14/2005 6:20:28 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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