Posted on 09/14/2005 9:03:21 AM PDT by Stoat
I guess James, an apostle of Christ, was a liar. Since his writing of the life of Christ wasnt accepted by the church politicians 1000 years later, that must mean it is a book of fiction while every other book of the Bible is "the Word of God."
It amazes me how PEOPLE have the arrogance to speak on behalf of God.
This is a vexing problem for parents, and I say that as the dad of a 14 year old girl who just finished 8 years in a Catholic school. My wife and I know that our daughter is well aware of what oral sex is. She has been aware for at least 2 years. She is well aware of the mother-daughter talks on the topic but she is also with her school friends much longer during the day than she is with us. That's a function of there only being 24 hours in a day.
Ms Reed would probably be shocked to learn her daughter has probably been aware, and probably even discussed at giggly length with her girlfriends the topic of oral sex.
You cannot stop raging hormones. But you can manage the effects of raging hormones through openness ("Yes, but here's what you need to know about oral sex...") and a good religious upbringing.
And for those just itching to click "Reply" to ask why our 14 year old girl has known about oral sex since she was 12, our daughter knows because one of her best friends since first grade was being sexually abused by her step-brother who was 20+. We found out later that she apparently talked very openly about it to her friends at the time. Oral sex was one of the topics. All the kids tried to talk to her and help her, but they all "protected" their friend from "getting in trouble", all the while not realizing they were hurting her more than they ever helped her. Finally, our daughter told us out of concern for her friend, and we went straight to our priest with the information as we felt we had a duty to notify someone.
But this, my friends, is just one way kids learn about things like oral sex at an age much younger than we ever imagined.
I think Ms. Reed above would be shocked to learn what her daugher knows about sex. Just like anything else with kids, the worst thing you can do is overreact and act like it's such a taboo thing. All you do when you declare something taboo is to increase the mystique and excitement about doing something "taboo". Deal with it up front, and very matter of factly with the facts and common sense reasons why something is wrong.
And you'll be waiting all day... if you can't follow the thread of the argument I have no interest in explaining it to you. Some idiot calls "any reference to child sex" as child porn. I was sarcastically pointing out the absurdity of the comment by pointing out that such references exist in the Bible...
Try learning to read things in context.
As for your "first law regarding public education" I am grateful that such nonsense was done away with.
Sorry if I got it wrong.
Yeah, you left out the fact that I was being SARCASTIC.
How many times do things have to be explained to you before you get it?
No biggie. My original post actually made sense since it was in protest to an "almightier than thou" type.
I agree with you that this book should NOT be assigned reading in school.
Personally I think he was probably more disturbed by the angle of the shot which makes it look like a spear is coming out of the top of his head. I still can't find any drapes.
Thanks for understanding and agreeing about the book. I don't know what in hell is wrong with our public schools these days. Anything goes unless its Christian or of good value. Cheez.
Judge not, lest ye be judge yourelf?
God instructs men against "hypocrisy" commanding them to "abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9). Thus, unable to judge, and unaccustomed to abhorrence, Christians en masse become hypocrites when they obey the Hypocrites Golden Rule. For "judge not" (Mat. 7:1-5) is simply a hypocrites application of do unto others as you would have them do unto you (Mat. 7:12). "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged" (Mat. 7:2). Judge others as you would have them do unto you inverted is Judge not if you do not want to be judged. Therefore the hypocrite does not judge. As Jesus said, "Judge not… you hypocrite" (Mat. 7:1, 5 KJV; Ezek. 16:52).
Christ kept this theme throughout His ministry. "Hypocrites," Jesus said, "why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?" (Luke 12:56-57). Still, His own followers have mostly ignored the Lord’s harsh rebuke: "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye" (Mat. 7:5). "Judge Not" is the Hypocritical Oath.
"Judge Not" is hypocrite haven. He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones. Such Christians, though, should relocate. Move into "the temple of the great God, which is being built with heavy stones" (Ezra 5:8).
Christians live in the "building" for which Christ is "the chief corner stone" (Eph. 2:20). And if that Stone falls on someone it "will grind him to powder" (Mat. 21:44; Luke 20:18; cf. Ex. 32:20). It is better to be judged by a Christian than crushed by Christ.
Scripture deals with topics which range from simple to advanced truth. There is the milk which is for babes in Christ, but the meat is for men of God. The question of whether or not Christians should judge is milk. It is preschool. The newest believer discipled with any of a hundred passages would immediately understand that he must judge. Judging others is fundamental. It is not a difficult concept and should in no way be controversial.
Extreme ignorance of the Bible has crippled the Church. And that crippling is obvious in virtually every denomination, and in almost all local fellowships. What is the percentage of Christians who have succumbed to the "Judge not" deception? Is there even one percent of believers who have not fallen for that diversion? Surely it seems that at least 99 out of 100 are guilty of either not rebuking someone for misquoting Jesus, or of repeating the mindless "Judge not" themselves. Believers need to turn from this sin and ask God for wisdom to keep from being so easily deceived again.
Curse God and die!
Is that good advice? Word for word, it is in the Bible. Job’s wife counsels her husband to "Curse God and die" (Job 2:7). Many verses, if ripped out of context, can ruin lives. Judas "went and hanged himself" (Mat. 27:5) and as Jesus said "Go and do likewise" (Luke 10:37). The believer who lacks a hunger for God’s word is susceptible to the most absurd dangers.
Are members of the Body of Christ today less capable than Israel whom God commanded to "judge righteously" (Deut. 1:16-17; Lev. 19:15)? Moses appointed the head of one out of every ten households as a judge (Ex. 18:25; Deut. 1:15). Should Christians look down upon the entire book of Judges? Should America eliminate all judges, or should just the Christian judges resign? Should believers ignore Paul’s admonition? For he wrote:
"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren?" (1Cor. 6:2-5).
Notice that Christians "will judge the world!" (1 Cor. 6:2). For Paul said, "if the world will be judged by you…" God is the Judge of all the world who will delegate that judgment to His people. Even spirit beings will submit to believers: "Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" Then and now, believers should "judge... according to My judgments" (Ezek. 44:24) as God said. The Almighty commits judgment into the hands of His obedient servants (Rev. 20:4, 1 Tim. 5:24). This teaching is ancient for as Enoch, the seventh from Adam, said, "the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints to execute judgment on all" (Jude 14-15).
Jesus too said, "The men of Nineveh will rise in the judgment with this generation and condemn it..." (Mat. 12:41). And as Solomon wrote, "jealously is a husband's fury; therefore, he will not spare [the adulterer] in the day of vengeance. He will accept no recompense nor will he be appeased..." (Prov. 6:34-35). God gives the responsibility for vengeance, condemnation and judgment to His servants for "every tongue which rises against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord…" (Isa. 54:17).
Today, many believers are effectively saying, "Lord, thanks but no thanks. I’ll pass on that judgment stuff." But Paul responds, "Start judging now, because you will need the practice" (1Cor. 6:2-5). Remember, "he who is spiritual judges all things. For... we have the mind of Christ" (1 Cor. 2:15-16). And God will reward those who judge, and do the hard work: "Those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, and a good blessing will come upon them." (Prov. 24:25).
Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24).
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BTW... I am NOT in the slightest bit sorry if I may have offended you... that is part of telling it like it is.
Jesus was offensive. Most people were offended by him. The proof for John the Baptist that Jesus was the Christ was that the blind see, the lame walk and the majority are "offended" by Him (Mat. 11:2-19). As Jesus said, "Blessed is he who is not offended because of Me" (Mat. 11:6; Luke 7:23). In Galilee, Jesus did not plead with his neighbors to understand Him when "they were offended at Him" (Mat. 13:57; Mark 6:3). If unbelievers are offended, so be it (cf. Luke 14:3-4; John 5:8-16). "Shake off the dust from your feet" (Mat. 10:14).
Jesus promised his followers, "you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended" (Mat. 24:9-10).It is not that I want to be hated; it is simply an occupational hazard.
Perhaps you Bible study group needs to dig a little deeper next time. Treasures of unparalleled truth abound in The Word.
God does not condemn those who "rebuke the wicked" (Prov. 24:25).
Hopefully the Church will see "Judge Not" headed for retirement replaced with "Judge Rightly".
Feel free to FReepmail me if you want futher info. I will try to be of service.
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