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Architect Offers Changes to 9/11 Memorial
Associated Press ^ | 9/14/05 | KIMBERLY HEFLING

Posted on 09/14/2005 4:54:48 PM PDT by jimbo123

The architect of the memorial to a plane downed in Pennsylvania on Sept. 11, 2001, said Wednesday he would work to satisfy critics who complained that it honors terrorists with its crescent-shaped design.

Designer Paul Murdoch said he is "somewhat optimistic" that the spirit of the design could be maintained.

"It's a disappointment there is a misinterpretation and a simplistic distortion of this, but if that is a public concern, than that is something we will look to resolve in a way that keeps the essential qualities," Murdoch, 48, of Los Angeles, said in a telephone interview.

Murdoch's design, "Crescent of Embrace," was selected last week during a meeting of the Flight 93 Advisory Commission from five narrowed down from 1,011.

The recommendation of the 15-member jury consisting of design professionals and family and community members still needs to be approved by the Interior Department.

Its shape is a circle broken by the flight pattern of the plane, which supporters have said follows the topography of the crash site.

Chris Martin, spokesman for Flight 93 National Memorial, said Wednesday family members and federal advisory commission members turned to Murdoch for assistance.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., sent a letter Tuesday to National Park Service Director Fran Mainella saying many have questioned the shape "because of the crescent's prominent use as a symbol in Islam — and the fact that the hijackers were radical Islamists."

Will Adams, spokesman for Tancredo, said Wednesday Tancredo would be happy with the changes only if the crescent shape is removed.

Murdoch said he's not sure exactly what changes he would make.

The memorial also consists of a chapel with 40 metallic wind chimes — one for each victim. It would include pedestrian trails and a roadway to a visitor center and the actual crash site. At the site would be a crescent-shaped cluster of maple trees and a white marble wall inscribed with the victims' names.

"We called it a crescent because it was a curving land form. We called it 'Crescent of Embrace' because of the symbolic gesturing of embracing this place," Murdoch said. "There's no desire to make this a divisive memorial."

Gordon Felt, of Remsen, N.Y., whose brother Edward Felt was killed on Flight 93, said he called Tancredo's office and said Tancredo should have held off on his criticism.

"I wish he would come out to Somerset and see topography of the land," Felt said.

Felt said it is natural for the design to evolve.

"I think the topography of the land would really dictate there would be some kind of arc," Felt said.

Flight 93 was flying to San Francisco from Newark, N.J., when it was hijacked and crashed 65 miles outside Pittsburgh. The official 9/11 Commission report said the hijackers crashed it as passengers tried to take control of the cockpit.


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KEYWORDS: 911; 911memorial; architecture; flight93; flight93memorial; fourthanniversary; redcrescent
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Nice work to everyone who called.
1 posted on 09/14/2005 4:54:49 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

The new design will be a crescent with a star.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 4:56:16 PM PDT by linear (Repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!!)
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To: everyone

Not good enough. We don't WANT to "keep the spirit of the design."


3 posted on 09/14/2005 4:57:22 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: jimbo123

I personally didn't take issue with the design, but I did have a problem with the name. But Flight 93 families are involved with the design, so in my view their votes are the ones that really count.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 4:57:40 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: jimbo123

Good! I wonder what he's going to change it to?

I think he knew perfectly well what it looked like, and in fact I read an interview with him where he described his wretched insult of a design as a "sign of reconciliation." And all the Muslim organizations from CAIR on down have rushed forward to support him. Sorry, the innocent act doesn't work.


5 posted on 09/14/2005 4:57:54 PM PDT by livius
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To: jimbo123

Let's see what he comes up with first.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 4:58:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: jimbo123
"It's a disappointment there is a misinterpretation and a simplistic distortion of this, but if that is a public concern, than that is something we will look to resolve in a way that keeps the essential qualities," Murdoch, 48, of Los Angeles, said in a telephone interview.

Darn hoi polloi.....daring to criticize their more intelligent superiors!

7 posted on 09/14/2005 4:58:30 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: jimbo123
Here is the original design.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 4:58:48 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: Coop

I don't think the families matter, quite frankly. They probably have varying opinions on it, in any case.

This is an American monument to American people who did something very important in a time of crisis. The monument is for us to remember them, not for their families or their families' memory of them.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 4:59:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: linear
Yeah. Somehow I'm having just a *leeetle* bit of a problem believing this guy.

BTW, the "Chapel" was exactly where a star would be...

10 posted on 09/14/2005 4:59:36 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: jimbo123

Blogosphere and pajama people strike again:)


11 posted on 09/14/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by not_apathetic_anymore
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To: jimbo123

I doubt this clown will remove the crescent. He's better than us. He's an tax funded artiste!


12 posted on 09/14/2005 5:00:12 PM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: livius

I agree with you. It is too obviously an Islamic symbol for him to act ignorant.


13 posted on 09/14/2005 5:00:18 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: jimbo123

Make it a pentagon minus one side.


14 posted on 09/14/2005 5:01:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

You beat me to it...us "simpletons" just don't get the sophistication. How telling is THAT?


15 posted on 09/14/2005 5:01:45 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Wanna put some money on that???


16 posted on 09/14/2005 5:02:56 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: rocksblues

That is wrong--a red crescent by accident? I think not.


17 posted on 09/14/2005 5:02:58 PM PDT by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: null and void

This architect thought he'd sneak in his sick joke for all his artist friends and it didn't work.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 5:03:02 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Whether or not the symbolism was intentional, it will still be seen as an Islamic overtone, particularly in the radical Muslim world. I don't want any sort of honor, recognition, or memorialization of the hijackers or their ilk, intentional or not. I don't want any celebrations in the hearts of the proponents of this twisted philosophy.


19 posted on 09/14/2005 5:03:11 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: jimbo123

a broken circle can symblolize a lot of things. fuhgawdsake, too many cooks spoil the broth. just rebuild the freaking thing -- assuming, of course it makes sense to economically. I'm sure the replacement cost of those towers is astronomical and probably couldn't repaid at reasonable rents were it not for concessions and subsidies. so, maybe it should be a park for a few years, until there's demand for the space again. right now it seems like they can't give away office space in the financial district.


20 posted on 09/14/2005 5:03:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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I would like to confirm if in fact design is oriented to face Mecca if that is in fact true then the Designer is just blowing smoke about this being an misunderstanding and the flight 93 familys need to be brought up to speed
21 posted on 09/14/2005 5:04:18 PM PDT by tophat9000 (This bulletin just in:"Chinese's Fire Drill's" will now be known as "New Orleans' Hurricane Drill's")
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To: jimbo123

Didn't work did it? Odd that the orientation has it open towards mecca, isn't it? Remarkable coincidence, that...


22 posted on 09/14/2005 5:04:42 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: jimbo123

The architect has offered to replace the crescent with crossed swords over an open Koran.

At this time we need more than ever to be truly inclusive.


23 posted on 09/14/2005 5:06:00 PM PDT by marron
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To: tophat9000

Funny how the architect isn't responding to the issue of his memorial's orientation to Mecca. It was all a sick inside joke for the architect and his artist buddies and thank goodness it was stopped before any real work was done.


24 posted on 09/14/2005 5:06:09 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I think the designer is lying. I don't see how it's possible to "coincidentally" have an Islamic crescent pointed precisely towards Mecca. The odds of that happening unintentionally are staggeringly large.


25 posted on 09/14/2005 5:06:14 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: tophat9000
It points towards Mecca (Flight 93 memorial)
26 posted on 09/14/2005 5:07:44 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: jimbo123

I'd say this guy has already disqualified himself. And this design is beyond repair.

Start over with someone who, oh, I dunno, maybe actually wants to honor some heroes?


27 posted on 09/14/2005 5:07:52 PM PDT by Norman Conquest
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To: jimbo123

28 posted on 09/14/2005 5:08:36 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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But Flight 93 families are involved with the design,

I am sure those selected passed the PC test.

29 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by razorback-bert (FR spell checker doesn't know Freeper is a word)
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To: cripplecreek

For starters, a different color tree.


30 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:31 PM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: jimbo123

The change he should offer is a new architect.


31 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:36 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: jimbo123

The new design will undoubtedly feature the same red crescent, but with a "Star of Peace" to go with TRoP's crescent...and, if not that, then the "Sickle and Hammer of the Common Man" or some other leftist bull****.


32 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:43 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Uh, wrong memorial. This refers to the one in Pennsylvania...and you might agree with those opposed if you followed the story, so please do.


33 posted on 09/14/2005 5:09:55 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How about a White House with out a second floor?


34 posted on 09/14/2005 5:10:35 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: All

35 posted on 09/14/2005 5:10:55 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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But Flight 93 families are involved with the design,

I am sure those selected passed the PC test.

36 posted on 09/14/2005 5:11:26 PM PDT by razorback-bert (FR spell checker doesn't know Freeper is a word)
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To: jimbo123
I think the memorial should be the good ol' American symbol of "The Finger", pointing straight to Mecca, naturally.
37 posted on 09/14/2005 5:11:35 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Well behaved women rarely make history. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich)
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To: thoughtomator
The odds of that happening unintentionally are staggeringly large.

Maybe 'Allah' is trying to pull a practical joke on us.

38 posted on 09/14/2005 5:11:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: jimbo123
Hey, Murdoch-embrace THIS.
39 posted on 09/14/2005 5:12:24 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I read his post and just ignored it. You called it correctly. Stay on subject if you disagree!
40 posted on 09/14/2005 5:12:30 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: Prime Choice

Where is this field full of swastika crosses???


41 posted on 09/14/2005 5:12:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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Maybe 'Allah' is trying to pull a practical joke on us.

I guess we are smarter than him, aren't we?

42 posted on 09/14/2005 5:13:23 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Just look for the nearest Palestinian cemetary...


43 posted on 09/14/2005 5:13:59 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: jimbo123
"Nice work to everyone who called."

Ditto...

And how about this BS?:

"We called it a crescent because it was a curving land form. We called it 'Crescent of Embrace' because of the symbolic gesturing of embracing this place," Murdoch said. "There's no desire to make this a divisive memorial."

I'd like to apply a vice-like "embrace" to Murdoch's neck as more than a "symbolic gesture."

44 posted on 09/14/2005 5:14:36 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: linear

And if you don't like the new one, you will be sent to sensitivity training.


45 posted on 09/14/2005 5:14:54 PM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Photoshop, like the Rising Sun on the Arizona Memorial. It's how lib-uh-rhuls would have done it then if they could have...


46 posted on 09/14/2005 5:15:02 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: jimbo123

A change of architects would be a good start.


47 posted on 09/14/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: California Patriot

"Not good enough. We don't WANT to "keep the spirit of the design." "

PING!


48 posted on 09/14/2005 5:16:33 PM PDT by mcg2000 (Wolf Blitzer: "They're all so desperate, so poor and so black.")
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To: jimbo123

Why don't they just preserve the makeshift memorial that ordinary folks built there in the days, weeks and months following 9/11? That was a real "people's monument".


49 posted on 09/14/2005 5:16:33 PM PDT by Argus
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To: null and void

But that's still very interesting. Who noted, on 9/11 and the subsequent furor, that Flight 93's bearing was straight towards Mecca???


50 posted on 09/14/2005 5:16:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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