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France threatens Iran with U.N. referral(a frog trying to impress a bully)
Reuters ^ | 09/14/05

Posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:09 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

France threatens Iran with U.N. referral

Wed Sep 14, 2:27 PM ET

France threatened Iran with referral to the United Nations over its nuclear activities on Wednesday despite the misgivings of the IAEA, the U.N.'s atomic watchdog agency.

In remarks to the U.N. Security Council, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin stressed the need for a "determined response" against weapons proliferation.

"In the nuclear sphere, we have put our trust in the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)," where there are rights to uphold and duties to enforce, he said.

"If a state fails in its obligations under the (Nuclear)Non-proliferation Treaty, it is legitimate, once dialogue has been exhausted, to refer it to the Security Council."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was due to address the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday and again on Saturday.

At some point, he is expected to outline a new plan aimed at reviving suspended EU talks and fending off a referral.

The IAEA fears that referring Iran to the Security Council now for possible sanctions over fears that Tehran wants to build nuclear arms would split its members, diplomats said.

They said the watchdog would rather set a new deadline for Iran to halt sensitive work when the 35-nation IAEA governing board meets from Monday to decide.

"Everything points in the direction of a need for more time. So it would be in everybody's favor to give it some three or four weeks," a senior diplomat close to the Vienna-based IAEA told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

The European Union's three biggest powers -- France, Britain and Germany -- joined forces with Washington to back a Council referral after Tehran resumed sensitive nuclear activities at its Isfahan uranium processing plant last month.

Work had been suspended under a November deal with the EU.

The EU trio says it will not seek immediate sanctions and only gradually increase pressure on Iran, and EU diplomats said Wednesday nothing would be gained by delaying referral.

Britain's Foreign Office said this was an issue for the IAEA board, not IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, to decide.

IRAN SAYS IT WON'T SUSPEND AGAIN

Tehran denies wanting atom bombs and says the West would abridge Iran's right to a full nuclear energy program. To undercut that argument, President George W. Bush on Tuesday publicly endorsed Iran's right to peaceful nuclear power.

Other diplomats said ElBaradei suggested to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the IAEA's governing board could instead set a deadline for Iran to resume a suspension of sensitive atomic activities and help the U.N. resolve outstanding questions about Iran's nuclear program.

Iran has told the IAEA, however, that it will continue to cooperate with it, but only if it can exercise a right to enrich uranium, according to a statement obtained by Reuters. The statement was circulated to IAEA members this week.

"There is no reason for Iran to sustain its ... voluntary suspension of uranium conversion and enrichment," it said.

DELAY SEEN UNDERMINING IAEA'S CREDIBILITY

ElBaradei's former deputy and chief IAEA inspector, Pierre Goldschmidt, wrote in a New York Times opinion piece that the IAEA board should not hesitate to report Iran for hiding its uranium enrichment program for nearly two decades.

"A failure by the board to make such a report would considerably weaken the agency and the global non-proliferation regime. It would reveal that the world is unwilling to hold rule-breakers to account, inviting proliferation by other countries," wrote Goldschmidt, who retired this summer.

EU diplomats said Ahmadinejad wanted to expand the EU-Iran talks to include countries like Russia, China, India or South Africa, which oppose U.N. referral and believe Iran should be allowed a full nuclear program.

The EU has ruled out new talks unless Iran re-freezes work at Isfahan, which EU diplomats said was unlikely.

(Additional reporting by Paul Hughes in Tehran, Louis Charbonneau in Berlin and Francois Muprhy in Vienna)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; france; iaea; iran; nuke; referral; un; us
A bombastic windbag de Villepin threatening Iran? I am sure mullahs are quaking in their boots.:)
1 posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:10 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Vill probably called in advance for permission of a public threat.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 6:04:57 PM PDT by mcg2000 (Wolf Blitzer: "They're all so desperate, so poor and so black.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster; nuconvert; freedom44; F14 Pilot; AdmSmith; DoctorZIn

Ping!


3 posted on 09/14/2005 6:05:04 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Iran: "ooooooo... we're scared!"


4 posted on 09/14/2005 6:06:08 PM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bonjour


5 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:01 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! (snort) BWAHAHAHAHA! (snort) BWAHAHAHAHA!


6 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:28 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: TigerLikesRooster

France? Didn't they lose to Greenpeace a few years back?


7 posted on 09/14/2005 6:07:31 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It's quite an abberation to see France talking tough. The situation may be worse than we realize.


8 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:11 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TigerLikesRooster

** snort **

That's pretty pathetic. Even for Dominique. I wonder what the frogs will do after the Terrors of Tehran call their bluff. Other than have a Gallic Snit, that is.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 6:09:20 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"new deadline"

When the past five deadlines as dead, the new line is not a dead line. It is a laugh-line.

10 posted on 09/14/2005 6:10:08 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Dog Gone
Of course it is. Now, everyone will go to the council, and agree not to buy quite so many pistachios, unless bribed. And that will be that. Iran's nuke drive will march straight on, the IAEA will remain a laughing stock, etc.
11 posted on 09/14/2005 6:11:41 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Dog Gone
Of course it is. Now, everyone will go to the council, and agree not to buy quite so many pistachios, unless bribed. And that will be that. Iran's nuke drive will march straight on, the IAEA will remain a laughing stock, etc.
12 posted on 09/14/2005 6:11:49 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Dog Gone
Re #8

Let us ask France to bomb Iran's nuke facilities.:)

13 posted on 09/14/2005 6:12:26 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Considering France's last military victory was against Green Peace, I'm sure Iran is terrified.


14 posted on 09/14/2005 6:15:30 PM PDT by Nachoman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Put the sanctions on and see what happens.

Nothing else they've tried has worked.

If the sanctions don't work, then there is the other option.


15 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:40 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh...I bet the Iranians are quaking in their burkahs.


16 posted on 09/14/2005 6:16:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Triggerhippie
"France? Didn't they lose to Greenpeace a few years back?"

No, I believe their military actually defeated the unarmed scowl named Rainbow Warrior. :-)

17 posted on 09/14/2005 6:22:02 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: TigerLikesRooster

France: Cooperate or...or...the UN will issue Resolution #15739A!

Mullahs: Hahahahaha.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 6:39:08 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The iraqi president, while sitting at a full table at the UN with cameras rolling should say that France represents "Old Europe".


Bwhahahahahaha!!!!


19 posted on 09/14/2005 6:46:28 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: TigerLikesRooster

:)

Iran’s response to France? Laughter behind the doors, serious concern and a keen willingness to comply soon publicly towards the CNN, Spiegel, Al Jazzier reporter cameras.

France’s response? They will “protest” this spiting! OMG, what will Iran do when France complains to the UN? The fear Iran must be in?

Maybe France will take the issue to the EU again? There too they can “discuss” the matter some more and come up with a real threatening verbal blasting of Iran. Iran is trembling now, I'm sure!

The UN became a farce in 2002.

France and the EU are becoming a farce today.

Keep talking France, in the end it will be us who has to clean up the mess anyway.

Red6


20 posted on 09/14/2005 6:58:49 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

flash! iran just posted a counter threat to france... will bomb them with bars of soap......


21 posted on 09/14/2005 7:32:43 PM PDT by fatteddy
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To: Dog Gone

I was thinking the same thing.


22 posted on 09/14/2005 7:37:05 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I think that we can count on Mohamed ElBaradei to take care of this matter.
23 posted on 09/14/2005 8:38:50 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)
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To: F14 Pilot

Bon nuit


24 posted on 09/14/2005 8:57:55 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Let us ask France to bomb Iran's nuke facilities.:)

Okay. Who has the Peter Sellers pic from the Pink Panther when he mentioned "Le Bomb"?

25 posted on 09/14/2005 9:00:53 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Red6
Us who has to clean up the mess anyway.

Hmmm. Maybe "we" will clean up the mess.?

26 posted on 09/14/2005 9:04:53 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Red6

Your post is insightful and I agree with everything but the timeline.

The UN became a farce on the day of its inception and france became a farce during their perverse mockery of our revolution when they adopted egalitarian values as part of their motto.


27 posted on 09/14/2005 9:10:37 PM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin stressed the need for a "determined response" against weapons proliferation.

Well done Dominique, we'll be standing right behind you... Waiting for the best time to return the knife you left in our back.

28 posted on 09/14/2005 9:23:01 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Cobra64



In the end, yes. We will do what it takes to stop Iran. Even if the Europeans who are sitting in the same boat with us do little and in some cases even sabotage us politically for some game they’re playing.

Was it any different 30 years ago in the Cold War?

Even then the Germans ripped their flap open about Vietnam, yet saw no connection to this battle and the much bigger war that they were part of (The Cold War). Even then they didn’t carry their weight, even then France (DeGaul) played its games, even then the MSM was prophesizing doom and gloom, a never ending stand off with Russia which will end in a nuclear holocaust bla bla bla. Even then we had the Michael Moore films which showed all the wrongs in our thinking. Remember “The Day After?”

The new war against terror is a war against radical Islam, but Bush can’t say that. Even there it’s just like the Cold War which was a war against an expansionistic militant philosophy called “Communism or Socialism”. Today the enemy bases his killing, terror and hate on the teaching of his “God”.

In the Cold War we had the RAF, today we have AQ. Strange how the Cold War ended and terror groups like the RAF vaporize within a short time and many of its members suddenly get caught. Back then the DDR and others “sponsored” much of what was happening, today Iran and Syria sponsor Hamas and other not so nice groups. The Taliban were sponsoring AQ literally publicly. It wasn’t even a secret!

And to top it all off- as in the Cold War, it will be AMERICAN blood that that pays for this dirty war. It will be America that carries the largest load economically. It will be America that will carry the political consequences when there is failure. We have some friends who will stand by us like in Korea, Vietnam and elsewhere. We will have some who will try to be profiteers like the French. Most will want to just “stay low”. They want to ride in our shadow, enjoying the fruits of a free open market and regional security, but will throw forth lame excuses for why they shouldn’t couldn’t and wouldn’t do anything to help.

Maybe it is the price we must pay for being the biggest kid. Like the older sibling, maybe it’s just the way it is.

But one thing is for sure. Don’t let yourself be lectured and told what is right and wrong by those who do nothing. They have no say.

Red6


29 posted on 09/14/2005 9:45:30 PM PDT by Red6
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To: TigerLikesRooster

"... We should remember the origins, history and tradition of the uniforms worn with pride by militaries around the world.

For example, a long time ago, Britain and France were at war.

During one battle, the French captured an English colonel. Taking him to their headquarters, the French general began to question him. Finally, as an afterthought, the French general asked, "Why do you English officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easier targets for us to shoot at?"

In his bland English way, the colonel informed the general that the reason English officers wear red coats are so that if they are shot, the blood won't show and the men they are leading won't panic.

And that is why, from that day to this, all French Army officers wear brown pants."


30 posted on 09/14/2005 10:12:16 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism is economic oppression)
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To: shibumi

True. Wasn't Alger Hiss a commie/Russian spy? Good foundation for such a worthy group with someone like him as the first sec. general.


31 posted on 09/14/2005 10:15:23 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism is economic oppression)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The UN and the EU are both pathetic and impotent.


32 posted on 09/14/2005 10:15:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (Dominus Iesus, miserere nobis.)
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To: proud_yank

Excellent anecdote! Consider it appropriated with the knowledge that it will be used well and often.


33 posted on 09/14/2005 11:12:29 PM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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To: shibumi

You do realize this is a joke, and not an anecdote?
Sometimes I never know if FReepers are joshing or just being stupid.


34 posted on 09/15/2005 9:12:35 AM PDT by ukman
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To: ukman

You do realize that at the heart of every joke, there lies a kernel of truth?


35 posted on 09/15/2005 2:46:27 PM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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To: ukman

Actually, if I were to weigh the joke versus anecdote value of both the "redcoat/brown pants" story and the "frogs threatening Iran with the UN" story, I would be hard pressed to determine which was reporting and which was satire. <;^)


36 posted on 09/15/2005 2:52:32 PM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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To: shibumi

Now you're REALLY being silly.


37 posted on 09/15/2005 11:07:52 PM PDT by ukman
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To: ukman

It's what I do best. (Read my page.)


38 posted on 09/15/2005 11:16:03 PM PDT by shibumi (Not a Speck of Cereal!)
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To: shibumi

OK, 'nuff said.


39 posted on 09/15/2005 11:18:49 PM PDT by ukman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The resistable force meets the immoderate object.


40 posted on 09/15/2005 11:31:45 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

41 posted on 09/20/2005 10:37:49 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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