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Iran Revolutionary Guards chief: U.S. losing in Iraq, Middle East
Iran Focus ^ | 9/14/05 | Iran Focus

Posted on 09/14/2005 8:28:46 PM PDT by freedom44

Tehran, Iran, Sep. 14 – The commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) said that the United States had been unable to control unrest in neighbouring Iraq, while the representative of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in the IRGC said that Islamic spirituality was aiding individuals who stood against American aggression, during a ceremony attended by top Revolutionary Guards commanders.

“The Americans have control of the scene in Iraq as a region priority, however they have hit two snags; they cannot use military expenses in their favour and have not been able to end insecurity in Iraq” IRGC chief, Brigadier General Rahim Safavi, said.

On the Middle East peace process between the Israeli and Palestinian administrations, Safavi that the recent Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip was a “great loss” for the U.S., adding, “The Americans are afraid of the coming together of Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, and Iraq and for this reason they seek political control and stability in favourable of the Zionist regime”.

The cleric Mohammad-Ali Movahedi-Kermani, the Supreme Leader’s representative in the IRGC, told the gathering, “If today America has admitted its weakness on a number of occasions and has become stuck in the face of the resistance of awake people, all of this is because of the existence of spirituality in Islamic countries”.

“Following the line of the Vali-e Faqi [Khamenei] means that one must adhere to all of his orders and instruction, otherwise a person would be following Satan”, Movahedi-Kermani said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; islamofascists; madmullahs; sandnazis

1 posted on 09/14/2005 8:28:48 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Ya, and Hitler told everyone he was winning right up to the end too. Sort of like Saddam's disinformation minister. What a crock.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 8:31:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: freedom44
"they cannot use military expenses in their favour and have not been able to end insecurity in Iraq"

We have done the former, and only Iraqis can fully do the latter.

3 posted on 09/14/2005 8:31:54 PM PDT by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: freedom44
This guy is watching too much CNN and reading the NYT.
4 posted on 09/14/2005 8:33:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: freedom44

5 posted on 09/14/2005 8:38:54 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: freedom44

So we're supposed to need the view of Iran to understand our involvement in the REGION...hmmmm....What Iran needs to understand is that American Forces will ALWAYS be in the region as backup for ANY emerging democracies....Allah will just have to get used to this CENTURY's reality, and that means the USA will be PARKED in that area till the axis TILTS.....


6 posted on 09/14/2005 8:41:23 PM PDT by crowman
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To: freedom44
John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Howard Dean remind all of their subjects that talking points are now delivered from Tehran. (also remind us that we need to pay our UN Dues)

That Soros money really gets around.

TT
7 posted on 09/14/2005 8:42:45 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Jeff Head
You can win a war but you can't defeat an ideology. The Muslim belief system is not going anywhere, it's no more likely you could wipe out Judaism or Christianity.

The best we can do is give the newly installed government the means to keep the peace. They will have to figure out how to create a nation that is both civil and just with a populace that believes in the barbaric ideology of Islam.

8 posted on 09/14/2005 8:43:36 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: freedom44

You have to laugh at this moron. Losing is what Iran was good at when they went to war with Iraq. Years and years went by with little change in the front lines. We blitzed through like a hot knife through butter taking more territory quicker than any army in the history of warfare. They resort to the cowardly antics of desperate criminals, unable to respond with a uniformed army of their own and have the nerve to say they are winning rather than struggling in vain with much greater loses than we are.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 8:44:13 PM PDT by Nateman
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To: freedom44
8 years for Iran. 3 weeks+100 hrs for us, tell me more Wellington.
10 posted on 09/14/2005 8:45:02 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: Jeff Head

Sort of like Saddam's disinformation minister.
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Exactly like him !!! I remember big time!!


11 posted on 09/14/2005 8:50:29 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: RockyMtnMan
It is clear from our actions that we are not trying to defeat the general belief system...just those who use their radical views to kill and threaten us...and OBTW, anyone else who does not agree with them, including other Muslims. That is what they are doing now by the hundreds, and it is a clear indication, IMHO, that they are losing.

The Iraqi people themselves are starting to get thoroughly PO'ed as they should. I expect soon to see radical, Al Quida terrorists swinging from light poles there.

IOW, I believe we are doing excactly what you indicated,

12 posted on 09/14/2005 8:50:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: freedom44

You have to laugh at this moron. Losing is what Iran was good at when they went to war with Iraq. Years and years went by with little change in the front lines. We blitzed through like a hot knife through butter taking more territory quicker than any army in the history of warfare. They resort to the cowardly antics of desperate criminals, unable to respond with a uniformed army of their own and have the nerve to say they are winning rather than struggling in vain with much greater loses than we are.


13 posted on 09/14/2005 8:56:48 PM PDT by Nateman
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To: EagleUSA

"Exactly like him !!! I remember big time!!"

Baghdad Bob - every time I think of him, Algore also comes to mind... ugh.


14 posted on 09/14/2005 9:01:26 PM PDT by Adiemus
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To: EagleUSA
Here's a great pic of the nature of that guys foolish disinformation...


15 posted on 09/14/2005 9:13:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: freedom44
Iran Revolutionary Guards chief: U.S. losing in Iraq, Middle East

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...of course opinions are like a$$holes, everyones got one....and most of them stink.
16 posted on 09/14/2005 9:17:39 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: RockyMtnMan

You can win a war but you can't defeat an ideology.

How many Nazis are there in the world today? How mant believers in the divine right of kings do you see running around? How much power do the militarists have in Japan?

What this war is all about is defeating an ideology.


17 posted on 09/14/2005 9:22:49 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Jeff Head

I expect soon to see radical, Al Quida terrorists swinging from light poles there.


I'll bring the popcorn! :-)


What we're seeing in Iraq today (160+ dead) is what the terrorist are all about death..destruction. Nothing positive all negative. It's all they have to offer, and why they are losing.


18 posted on 09/14/2005 9:27:50 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

Completely correct, and I think the local population will dump that radical mindset like a hot potato in the years to come.....I mean seriously, do they think people will vote to remain backward, stuck in a loser mentality....


19 posted on 09/14/2005 9:56:04 PM PDT by crowman
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To: freedom44

Yep! Just like Baghdad Bob said there were no Americans in Baghdad.


20 posted on 09/14/2005 10:24:33 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Valin
There are many skinheads and Islamists that currently have and have had for decades since WWII, the desire and will to keep Nazism alive. There are many elitists in this world who believe in a privileged ruling class that I would qualify in the "divine right of kings" believer category.

With regard to Islam-ism I do not see a change coming about anytime soon. While it's a spirited and comforting idea that Islam-ism is compatible with western beliefs and values it is also a very naive and childlike view. Those feelings and beliefs are deeply ingrained in the culture as a divine obligation and will not be altered within our lifetimes.
21 posted on 09/15/2005 9:32:48 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan
Islam-ism as an ideology is an idea who's time has come....and gone. Why, because it doesn't work, it looks backwards and dosen't provied people with a way to live in the world as it is. I really can't think of a place where it's gaining ground.
22 posted on 09/15/2005 9:47:07 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Valin

China, Russia, Europe and if our borders remain open as the gates of hell we'll be next. Muslims don't make any noise until their numbers justify making themselves known.


23 posted on 09/15/2005 1:42:25 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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