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Fleming senior wears racist T-shirt to school
Jacksonville.com ^ | 9.15.05 | BRAD SCHMIDT

Posted on 09/15/2005 10:46:04 AM PDT by conserv13

"What's up with your shirt?"

Those are the words a former senior at Fleming Island High School remembers hearing as he walked from his fifth-period algebra class toward the gym. The 18-year-old, who is not being identified due to his family's concerns of safety, had just taken off his Dixie Outfitter T-shirt, exposing a highly offensive shirt.

"What about it?" replied the 18-year-old, skinny and white.

"Well, you know it's racial," said a black student, now in a group confronting the 18-year-old.

"Yeah. So?"

The undershirt the white student wore had a confederate flag on the front with the words "Keep it flying." On the back, a cartoon depicted a group of hooded Klansmen standing outside a church, waving to two others who had just pulled away in a car reading "Just married."

Two black men in nooses were being dragged behind.

Upset by the shirt, a 17-year-old black student hit the white student in the head. A crowd of about 100 students gathered to watch the Aug. 29 fight before authorities intervened.

(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dangerseeker; darwin; dixie; dixielost; florida; hateflag; idiot; moron; race; rebellion; slavery; slaves; treason; tshirt
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To: thoughtomator
we either have free speech or we don't we don't
21 posted on 09/15/2005 10:53:21 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: conserv13

two idiots.


22 posted on 09/15/2005 10:53:29 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: MineralMan
While the flag is not necessarily a racist symbol

It has NOTHING to do with racism. Period.

23 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:01 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: conserv13

Yikes. I'm not going to blame the kid for punching him.


24 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoraC

Screw that, this kid needed an ass kicking.

Sometimes people just do.


25 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:23 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: conserv13
The kid got what he deserved. That shirt is "fighting words."

Normally, I don't support assault and battery. This is one exception.

26 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:25 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: conserv13

Does this mean I get to beat up the next punk I see wearing a Che Guevera shirt?

I've wanted to for a long time.


27 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:31 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (North American Community. What's yours is theirs.)
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To: thoughtomator

"Racist or not, we either have free speech or we don't. "


Oh, we have free speech. This kid exercised it. Free speech has only to do with the government restricting your speech.

Seems to me like the kid expressed himself. So, apparently, did the kid who punched him. You've heard of "fighting words?" This is an example of that.

Consider how you might react if some kid had a t-shirt with a picture of your daughter on one side and the words, "Nice Piece" on the back. Just think about it, and then think about a cartoon showing two black people being dragged behind a car in nooses.

The kid's lucky he is still around.


28 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:33 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: conserv13

This kid needs emergency surgery to keep him from getting carpet burns on his knuckles.


29 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:40 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: conserv13

hrm.. if i looked at the shirt i would think he was insulting people who flew the confederate flag.


30 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:41 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: conserv13

The quote, "Life is hard. It's even harder if you're stupid" aptly fits.


31 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:51 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: conserv13

Something doesn't smell right about this story.


32 posted on 09/15/2005 10:54:53 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: conserv13

The kid with the shirt is obviously a few fries short of a happy meal. And if you're going to wear clothing that others find offensive(which I do frequently, though not as bad as this kid), you'd better learn how to duck punches or throw some yourself.


33 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:03 AM PDT by dogfighter
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To: DoraC
I think the black student is the idiot here.

Legally he's wrong and should be punished. But morally? Come on. The guy was wearing a pro-lynching shirt. You walk down a street in Tel Aviv wearing a pro-Holocaust shirt and you're probably going to get punched too, and you know what? You had it coming. I'd have probably punched this guy too.

34 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:06 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: thoughtomator
You have free speach, but just in the Dixie Chick incident, you also have to hear other people's chagrin to your free speach.

Lesson: Keep your radical ideas to yourself, dumbass.

35 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:11 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: lady lawyer
"I have to wonder out loud what would happen to a black kid who made a racial slur against whites? You can't tell me that never happens. Would he be punished?"

In some parallel universe, perhaps...

36 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:23 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: conserv13

But yet I hear RAP music lyrics wanting kill everything that isn't black. Is racsim only a "white" thing?


37 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:32 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: DoraC

Fighting words concept. You might not have felt compelled to hit but the law recognizes that your freedom of expression is not armor against those whom you have obviously chosen to offend. I hope he knocked him out.


38 posted on 09/15/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: conserv13

Obviously, Columbine didn't teach us anything.


39 posted on 09/15/2005 10:56:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Puppage
Actually, since the KKK appropriated the Confederate flag as its symbol, it does have racist linkages.

It's a classical problem. Not all Confederate-flag wearing Southerners are racists, but it sure seems that all racists wear the Confederate flag.

It kinda sucks for decent Southerners who see the flag as representative of regional pride, and of State's Rights, but the simple fact of the matter is that racists have identified with the Confederate cause since the Civil War.

40 posted on 09/15/2005 10:57:18 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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