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Katrina Educates World On Need For Owning Guns
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Posted on 09/15/2005 8:16:08 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

Katrina Educates World On Need For Owning Guns

by Erich Pratt

"All our operators are busy right now. Please remain on the line and an operator will be with you shortly. Your call is important to us."

Can you imagine any words more horrifying after dialing 9-1-1? Your life's in danger, but there's no one available to help you.

For several days in September, life was absolutely terrifying for many New Orleans residents who got stranded in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. There were no operators... there were no phone calls being handled.

Heck, there was no 9-1-1. Even if the phone lines had been working, there were no police officers waiting to be dispatched.

Hundreds of New Orleans police officers had fled the city. Some took their badges and threw them out the windows of their cars as they sped away. Others participated in the looting of the city.

While there were many officers who acted honorably -- even apprehending dangerous thugs while grieving the loss of their own family members -- most residents were forced to fend for themselves.

Many did so successfully, using their own firearms, until New Orleans Police Commissioner Edwin Compass III issued the order to confiscate their guns.

Anti-gun zealots confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens

On September 8, several news outlets began reporting that officials in New Orleans were confiscating firearms... not from looters, but from law-abiding citizens who legally owned firearms!

"No one will be able to be armed," said Deputy Chief Warren Riley. "We are going to take all the weapons."

It was like a scene out of the former Soviet Union or Communist China.

The Associated Press quoted Compass, the police commissioner, as saying, "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons."

Well, there you have it. Given the chance, gun control advocates will always implement their real agenda -- confiscation of firearms from everyone... except the police!

ABC News video on September 8 showed National Guard troops going house-to-house, smashing down doors, searching for residents, and confiscating guns. Every victim of disarmament was clearly not a thug or looter, but a decent resident wanting to defend his or her home.

Many of the troops were clearly conflicted by their orders. "It is surreal," said one member of the Oklahoma National Guard who was going door-to-door in New Orleans. "You never expect to do this in your own country."

Many never would have expected it -- confiscating firearms from decent people who were relying on those firearms to protect themselves from the looters.

It was an outrageous order -- one that should not have been obeyed. There was no constitutional authority for the directive, and it ignored the fact that many good people had already used firearms to successfully defend their lives and property.

Guns were saving lives and protecting property prior to the confiscation order

As flood waters started rising in New Orleans, a wave of violence rolled through the city.

"It was pandemonium for a couple of nights," said Charlie Hackett, a New Orleans resident. "We just felt that when [looters] got done with the stores, they’d come to the homes."

Hackett was right... which is why he and his neighbor, John Carolan, stood guard over their homes to ward off looters who, rummaging through the neighborhoods, were smashing windows and ransacking stores.

Armed looters did eventually come to Carolan's house and demanded his generator. But Carolan showed them his gun and they left.

No wonder then that gun stores, which weren't under water, were selling firearms at a record pace to people looking to defend themselves. "I've got people like you wouldn't believe, lots of people, coming in and buying handguns," said Briley Reed, the assistant manager of the E-Z Pawn store in Baton Rouge.

"I've even had soldiers coming in here buying guns," Reed said.

Makeshift militias patrol neighborhoods

In the Algiers neighborhood of New Orleans, dozens of neighbors banded together to protect their neighborhood.

"There's about 20 or 30 guys in addition to us. We know all of them and where they are," Gregg Harris said. "People armed themselves so quickly, rallying together. I think it's why [our] neighborhood survived."

Harris isn't joking about the armaments. A gun battle erupted one afternoon between armed neighbors and looters. Two of the thugs were shot.

Since then, no more looters have bothered the neighborhood. But the neighbors aren't letting their guard down. They all take their turn keeping watch.

Gareth Stubbs sits in a rocking chair on his front porch, holding his shotgun and a bottle of bug spray.

In another home, a 74-year old mother keeps the following near the bed: her rosary, a shotgun and a 38-caliber pistol.

Vinnie Pervel and two other volunteers man a balcony-turned-watchtower with five borrowed shotguns, a pistol, a flare gun, and old AK-47 and loads of ammunition.

To be sure, many of the weapons were borrowed from neighbors who fled before the storm hit. Pervel and Harris did not have any working firearms themselves in the aftermath of the storm. But because Pervel had been keeping in contact (via phone) with neighbors who had already evacuated, he got permission to go into the vacant homes and get his neighbors' weapons.

"I never thought I'd be going into my neighbor's house and taking their guns," Pervel said. "We wrote down what gun came from what house so we can return them when they get back."

Firearms were a hot commodity

It would be an understatement to say that firearms were the hottest commodity in the days following the massive destruction. In Gulf Port, Mississippi, Ron Roland, 51, lost everything -- three homes, four cars, a bait-and-tackle shop and a boat. It was all destroyed by Hurricane Katrina.

Nevertheless, Roland was determined to salvage what he could amidst the rubble -- with or without police protection. And it's a good thing, too, because there would be no such thing as "police protection" in the days following the storm.

Standing guard over one of his homes with a handgun in his waistband, Roland used his firearm to stop looters from rummaging through his storm-damaged property.

Roland and his son even performed a citizen's arrest on one plunderer and then warned future thieves by posting the following message in his yard: "NO TRESPASSERS! ARMED HOMEOWNERS."

Signs like this were common throughout the Gulf Coast region in the days following Katrina.

Unfortunately, some people had to learn the hard way about the utility of keeping firearms for protection.

Water, food... but what about guns?

The managers at the Covenant Home nursing center in New Orleans were more than prepared to ride out the hurricane. They had food and supplies to last the 80 residents for more than ten days.

They had planned for every contingency... or so they thought.

"We had excellent plans. We had enough food for 10 days," said Peggy Hoffman, the home's Executive Director.

But they had no firearms. So when carjackers hijacked the home's bus and drove by the center shouting "Get out!" to the residents, they were completely helpless.

All of the residents, most of them in wheelchairs, were evacuated to other nursing homes in the state.

Hoffman says she has now learned her lesson.

Next time, "We'll have to equip our department heads with guns and teach them how to shoot," she said.

Thank goodness someone is learning from their mistakes.

Does anyone remember Los Angeles?

We should have learned this lesson more than ten years ago when the entire country saw horrifying images coming out of Los Angeles.

If the riots of 1992 taught us anything, it is that the police can't always be there to protect us.

For several days, that city was in complete turmoil as stores were looted and burned. Motorists were dragged from their cars and beaten.

Further aggravating the situation, police were very slow in responding to the crisis. Many Guardsmen, after being mobilized to the affected areas, sat by and watched the violence because their rifles were low on ammunition.

But not everybody in Los Angeles suffered. In some of the hot spots, Korean merchants were able to successfully protect their stores with semi-automatic firearms.

In areas where armed citizens banded together for self-protection, their businesses were spared while others (which were left unprotected) burned to the ground.

The pictures of Korean merchants defending their stores left quite an impression on one group of people living in Los Angeles: those who had previously identified themselves as gun control advocates.

Press reports described how life-long gun control supporters were even running to gun stores to buy an item they never thought they would need -- a gun. Tragically, they were surprised (and outraged!) to learn there was a 15-day waiting period upon firearms.

Confiscating guns puts people at risk

Fast forward more than a decade, it seems that many folks still haven't learned the lessons from previous tragedies. If the Mayor and his cronies really wanted to help the decent citizens of New Orleans, they would have been issuing people firearms instead of taking them away.

These guns were the only thing that prevented many good folks from becoming victims in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Now that residents are disarmed, will the Mayor provide 24-hour, round-the-clock protection for each of these disarmed families? Will he make himself personally liable for anyone who is injured or killed as a result of being prevented from defending himself or his family?

When your life is in danger, you don't want to rely on a police force that is stretched way too thin. And the last thing you want to hear when you call 9-1-1 is, "All our operators are busy right now...."

That might just be the last thing you ever hear.


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To: Happy2BMe
part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."

This is exactly how American liberals view American citizens.

101 posted on 09/16/2005 8:24:34 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: radiohead

Hey, if you need a therapist, so do I. I can drool over a good gun mag (or car mag). Sign me:
54 year old grandmother


102 posted on 09/16/2005 8:26:40 AM PDT by songbird51 (Second Amendment Sisters)
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To: Happy2BMe

I have an old Ithica .10 gague shotgun my Daddy gave me when I turned 16. I never liked it much for hunting becasue it kicks like a mule and is really too powerful for hunting game. BUT, for self defense the thing would literaly cut a man in half at 10 yards. One thing the events in NO should convince us of is the need to be able to quickly hide our guns to avoid confiscation when the jackboots show up at the door. My solution is white PVC sewer pipe, available at any Home Depot or other Super hardware store. A six foot length with one end seald and the other with a screw on cap is water tight and can be quickly buried. If the gun grabbers ever come to my door the answer is "No officer, you won't find any guns here" and I will be telling the complete truth.


103 posted on 09/16/2005 9:36:31 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: MarkL
I forgot to mention...this friend of mine (the trainer) told us to practice with gloves on. Especially reloading. He told us that fine motor skill is diminished in a high stress situation, and that if you are struck by a bullet ANYWHERE on your body that fine motor skill just goes AWAY.

With gloves, your sense of touch, and fine motor skill with fingers is lessened a LOT. Wearing gloves simulates, to a degree, losing a certain amount of fine motor skill in a high stress situation....so if/when it happens, you've practiced and should do better when the time comes.

Even with things like reloading and releasing the slide on a semi-auto handgun... he showed us how to not use the ends of our fingers to drop/swap mags, and charge the weapon.

After many months of just basic practice drills he gave us, we started practicing CQB drills with primary and secondary weapons. The range safety officer (a position we swapped around), would sometimes load mags with a round that was GUARANTEED to produce a jam. In addition, with CQB, the firing line isn't static. You might have somebody 10 feet behind you, 5 feet to your right firing. An AR-15 at that distance tosses a LOT of distraction your way!

We learned why HRTs, SEALs, and tactical entry teams practice the way they do. There's simply no substitute. Having said that, there's also no substitute for incoming fire, but paintball comes close! Unfortunately, the Islamic terrorists know the value in training people to shoot under stress effectively, and set up entire training camps for this purpose (among others).

All in all...it was a HUGE shock to us. We're a bunch of "good ole boys" who thought we were "pretty good" with our guns. Actually....at that time in comparison to the people who already knew what we didn't, we were no better than a bunch of second grade girls. :-)

It's always interesting to take a guy who "thinks" he's effective with his weapon to our little range and run some of the basic starter drills. We always let one of my kids start. :-) The kid has the .45 ACP, or .40 S&W (Browning) HP), pointed to the ground, cocked and locked, and his back is to the target. The safety officer walks with him on his RIGHT (for right handed shooters) and at approximately the third step gives the command to FIRE. The shooter turns to his RIGHT, continues until the weapon is on target, and has to fire twice, striking the target in center mass.

With either of my boys, this is a "cakewalk". They make it look easy. So our "visitor" of course thinks he's going to do well. :-) Visitors hardly EVER even hit the target the first several tries. Also, they do things like turn to the left, which is a BIG NO-NO for a right handed shooter....ESPECIALLY with the safety officer standing there! ALWAYS turn to your RIGHT if you can! Some forget to take the safety off before firing and get flustered.

Most just shoot too fast and miss completely.

I have to tell you though, the people on this planet who are the exception to this are FEMALES. Most females who we've taken to that little range to practice these things at LEAST hit the target the first time.

In any case...far too many people have a fantasy about what they're going to do, and how they're going to do it during an encounter with "unfriendlies". Talk to somebody who's survived a gunfight (like my trainer buddy). They have a VERY different perspective. :-)

These "pros" all say the same thing though if you ask them....PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE... :-)


104 posted on 09/16/2005 9:58:39 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Jason_b
Now that's a good idea! I "concur". My supervisors loved that term, sounds so authoritative.
105 posted on 09/16/2005 10:04:36 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

bookmark


106 posted on 09/16/2005 10:22:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: billnaz

My emergency numbers are 7.62 & .45 they are well proven & reliable.


107 posted on 09/16/2005 11:29:31 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Happy2BMe
Armed citizens only can save our ratified Constitutional Republic, the last one we can have.

Those who would repeat this unConstitutional jackboot Order are enemies of our Constitution and We the People.

Past time to take names of our employees, because too many are would be Einsatzgruppenfuerhers.

108 posted on 09/16/2005 11:52:19 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Happy2BMe
"I never thought I'd be going into my neighbor's house and taking their guns," Pervel said. "We wrote down what gun came from what house so we can return them when they get back."

I'm sure the JBTs that confiscated weapons did the same.

/sarcasm

109 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:48 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: hiredhand
PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE...

The average minimum cost for an average weapon should be ~$1,000:

the weapon,

~1,000 rounds of ammo,

a high quality holster/sling,

cleaning kit,

basic reloading tools and supplies includinmg bullet casting,

and PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE...

In crisis, as backup to your 12 G., always carry your handgun and mags/speedloaders with a blinding bright light (Surefire's 65 lumin with extra batteries and a small LED light when blinding a suspect is not called for. Discrete is better, but at the ready is manditory. Many on-the-hip or shoulder rigs are great.

Nothing is more gravely serious than self-defense. Exercise physically, mentally and emotionally - everyone in your household.

The proper translation is: "Thou shalt not murder."

110 posted on 09/16/2005 1:18:04 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: radiohead
Is there such a thing as gun porn? I mean I just stared at the pics and thought, 'Yeah, baby.'

Here's the finest in "gun porn", the Brownell's catalog.

It comes out at the end of summer, and for me, it's like the old Sears tool and Christmas catalogs rolled into one. 500+ pages of exotic tools, supplies, accessories, and just "stuff" that no gun nut can do without.

111 posted on 09/16/2005 4:20:24 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: Travis McGee
Prior to Katrina, I didn't consider the possibilty of a truly apocalyptic disaser, since liberals have always poo-pooed it. While I keep a handgun and shotgun handy, I've come to the conclusion that only a rifle will protect you in a total meltdown.

I started think about what I'd need if the entire world goes bad. My beloved Remington 700PSS is just too big, too heavy, and ammo (300 Win magnum) too hard to come by. Plus, I'd most likely be engaging multiple orcs at 50 yards, than making headshots at 600 yards.

So I settled on this little guy as my end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it rifle. 16.25-inch barrel, 1x scope (still beats iron sights), compact, and handy. Ammo is easy to carry, and resupply. And I can still hit man-sized targets at 300 yards, which is about 250 further than aimed fire from some gang-banger's AK47. It can reach out, and yet still lay down a volume of fire, if needed.

And it works nicely with this Erbelstock backpack/rifle carrier. It includes provisions for a hydration system, and room for plenty of mags and ammo, a couple of bottles of water, MREs, compact binoculars, a knife, and a sniper veil.

If I can grab only one thing to take with me, it will be this.

112 posted on 09/16/2005 4:42:25 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: Dogrobber; bluesagewoman; StarCMC; BOBWADE; Mrs Zip; guido911; cardinal4
OFF TOPIC BUT KINDA,SORTA LINKED TO New Orleans and Sin'dee.

CINDY SHEEHAN CALLS FOR U.S TO 'PULL OUR TROOPS OUT OF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS'
Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET

Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans

Talk about loony tunes. She really helps the right side to show the insanity of the left.

113 posted on 09/16/2005 5:39:30 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Thanks for the ping.


114 posted on 09/16/2005 5:56:28 PM PDT by Sarcastic1 (Don't make me adverb verb you,you adjective noun!)
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To: 300winmag

I shot the Steyer in 1980 when it was barely past prototype. How many mags you got? Common mags are very important in my opinion. ARs, FALs etc.


115 posted on 09/16/2005 9:53:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
How many mags you got? Common mags are very important in my opinion. ARs, FALs etc.

I agree. That's why I bought a dozen extra mags, back when AUGs and their magazines were cheap. If magazines become a problem, I'll have to start using the weapon that the other guy doesn't need any more.

116 posted on 09/16/2005 10:46:54 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: SLB
These idiots have done themselves in with the local voters.

They shipped away their base last week when the underclass masses left.

The remaining law abiding citizens will wreck havoc on them in the next election.

117 posted on 09/17/2005 9:29:49 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: Mr. Mojo

Ping for later.


118 posted on 09/18/2005 10:09:53 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bush says he may need more power in disasters

Isn't this great? (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I was looking at this and wondering if anyone in Congress would seriously oppose it. I'll bet you a stick of 6" PVC pipe they won't.

119 posted on 09/18/2005 10:32:27 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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