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Katrina Educates World On Need For Owning Guns
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Posted on 09/15/2005 8:16:08 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: Happy2BMe
part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."

This is exactly how American liberals view American citizens.

101 posted on 09/16/2005 8:24:34 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: radiohead

Hey, if you need a therapist, so do I. I can drool over a good gun mag (or car mag). Sign me:
54 year old grandmother


102 posted on 09/16/2005 8:26:40 AM PDT by songbird51 (Second Amendment Sisters)
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To: Happy2BMe

I have an old Ithica .10 gague shotgun my Daddy gave me when I turned 16. I never liked it much for hunting becasue it kicks like a mule and is really too powerful for hunting game. BUT, for self defense the thing would literaly cut a man in half at 10 yards. One thing the events in NO should convince us of is the need to be able to quickly hide our guns to avoid confiscation when the jackboots show up at the door. My solution is white PVC sewer pipe, available at any Home Depot or other Super hardware store. A six foot length with one end seald and the other with a screw on cap is water tight and can be quickly buried. If the gun grabbers ever come to my door the answer is "No officer, you won't find any guns here" and I will be telling the complete truth.


103 posted on 09/16/2005 9:36:31 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: MarkL
I forgot to mention...this friend of mine (the trainer) told us to practice with gloves on. Especially reloading. He told us that fine motor skill is diminished in a high stress situation, and that if you are struck by a bullet ANYWHERE on your body that fine motor skill just goes AWAY.

With gloves, your sense of touch, and fine motor skill with fingers is lessened a LOT. Wearing gloves simulates, to a degree, losing a certain amount of fine motor skill in a high stress situation....so if/when it happens, you've practiced and should do better when the time comes.

Even with things like reloading and releasing the slide on a semi-auto handgun... he showed us how to not use the ends of our fingers to drop/swap mags, and charge the weapon.

After many months of just basic practice drills he gave us, we started practicing CQB drills with primary and secondary weapons. The range safety officer (a position we swapped around), would sometimes load mags with a round that was GUARANTEED to produce a jam. In addition, with CQB, the firing line isn't static. You might have somebody 10 feet behind you, 5 feet to your right firing. An AR-15 at that distance tosses a LOT of distraction your way!

We learned why HRTs, SEALs, and tactical entry teams practice the way they do. There's simply no substitute. Having said that, there's also no substitute for incoming fire, but paintball comes close! Unfortunately, the Islamic terrorists know the value in training people to shoot under stress effectively, and set up entire training camps for this purpose (among others).

All in all...it was a HUGE shock to us. We're a bunch of "good ole boys" who thought we were "pretty good" with our guns. Actually....at that time in comparison to the people who already knew what we didn't, we were no better than a bunch of second grade girls. :-)

It's always interesting to take a guy who "thinks" he's effective with his weapon to our little range and run some of the basic starter drills. We always let one of my kids start. :-) The kid has the .45 ACP, or .40 S&W (Browning) HP), pointed to the ground, cocked and locked, and his back is to the target. The safety officer walks with him on his RIGHT (for right handed shooters) and at approximately the third step gives the command to FIRE. The shooter turns to his RIGHT, continues until the weapon is on target, and has to fire twice, striking the target in center mass.

With either of my boys, this is a "cakewalk". They make it look easy. So our "visitor" of course thinks he's going to do well. :-) Visitors hardly EVER even hit the target the first several tries. Also, they do things like turn to the left, which is a BIG NO-NO for a right handed shooter....ESPECIALLY with the safety officer standing there! ALWAYS turn to your RIGHT if you can! Some forget to take the safety off before firing and get flustered.

Most just shoot too fast and miss completely.

I have to tell you though, the people on this planet who are the exception to this are FEMALES. Most females who we've taken to that little range to practice these things at LEAST hit the target the first time.

In any case...far too many people have a fantasy about what they're going to do, and how they're going to do it during an encounter with "unfriendlies". Talk to somebody who's survived a gunfight (like my trainer buddy). They have a VERY different perspective. :-)

These "pros" all say the same thing though if you ask them....PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE... :-)


104 posted on 09/16/2005 9:58:39 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Jason_b
Now that's a good idea! I "concur". My supervisors loved that term, sounds so authoritative.
105 posted on 09/16/2005 10:04:36 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

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106 posted on 09/16/2005 10:22:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: billnaz

My emergency numbers are 7.62 & .45 they are well proven & reliable.


107 posted on 09/16/2005 11:29:31 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Happy2BMe
Armed citizens only can save our ratified Constitutional Republic, the last one we can have.

Those who would repeat this unConstitutional jackboot Order are enemies of our Constitution and We the People.

Past time to take names of our employees, because too many are would be Einsatzgruppenfuerhers.

108 posted on 09/16/2005 11:52:19 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Happy2BMe
"I never thought I'd be going into my neighbor's house and taking their guns," Pervel said. "We wrote down what gun came from what house so we can return them when they get back."

I'm sure the JBTs that confiscated weapons did the same.

/sarcasm

109 posted on 09/16/2005 12:24:48 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: hiredhand
PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE...

The average minimum cost for an average weapon should be ~$1,000:

the weapon,

~1,000 rounds of ammo,

a high quality holster/sling,

cleaning kit,

basic reloading tools and supplies includinmg bullet casting,

and PRACTICE...PRACTICE...PRACTICE...

In crisis, as backup to your 12 G., always carry your handgun and mags/speedloaders with a blinding bright light (Surefire's 65 lumin with extra batteries and a small LED light when blinding a suspect is not called for. Discrete is better, but at the ready is manditory. Many on-the-hip or shoulder rigs are great.

Nothing is more gravely serious than self-defense. Exercise physically, mentally and emotionally - everyone in your household.

The proper translation is: "Thou shalt not murder."

110 posted on 09/16/2005 1:18:04 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: radiohead
Is there such a thing as gun porn? I mean I just stared at the pics and thought, 'Yeah, baby.'

Here's the finest in "gun porn", the Brownell's catalog.

It comes out at the end of summer, and for me, it's like the old Sears tool and Christmas catalogs rolled into one. 500+ pages of exotic tools, supplies, accessories, and just "stuff" that no gun nut can do without.

111 posted on 09/16/2005 4:20:24 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: Travis McGee
Prior to Katrina, I didn't consider the possibilty of a truly apocalyptic disaser, since liberals have always poo-pooed it. While I keep a handgun and shotgun handy, I've come to the conclusion that only a rifle will protect you in a total meltdown.

I started think about what I'd need if the entire world goes bad. My beloved Remington 700PSS is just too big, too heavy, and ammo (300 Win magnum) too hard to come by. Plus, I'd most likely be engaging multiple orcs at 50 yards, than making headshots at 600 yards.

So I settled on this little guy as my end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it rifle. 16.25-inch barrel, 1x scope (still beats iron sights), compact, and handy. Ammo is easy to carry, and resupply. And I can still hit man-sized targets at 300 yards, which is about 250 further than aimed fire from some gang-banger's AK47. It can reach out, and yet still lay down a volume of fire, if needed.

And it works nicely with this Erbelstock backpack/rifle carrier. It includes provisions for a hydration system, and room for plenty of mags and ammo, a couple of bottles of water, MREs, compact binoculars, a knife, and a sniper veil.

If I can grab only one thing to take with me, it will be this.

112 posted on 09/16/2005 4:42:25 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: Dogrobber; bluesagewoman; StarCMC; BOBWADE; Mrs Zip; guido911; cardinal4
OFF TOPIC BUT KINDA,SORTA LINKED TO New Orleans and Sin'dee.

CINDY SHEEHAN CALLS FOR U.S TO 'PULL OUR TROOPS OUT OF OCCUPIED NEW ORLEANS'
Mon Sep 12 2005 12:42:11 ET

Celebrity anti-war protester, fresh off inking a lucrative deal with Speaker's Bureau, has demanded at the HUFFINGTON POST and MICHAEL MOORE'S website that the United States military must immediately leave 'occupied' New Orleans

Talk about loony tunes. She really helps the right side to show the insanity of the left.

113 posted on 09/16/2005 5:39:30 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA))
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To: Mr. Mojo

Thanks for the ping.


114 posted on 09/16/2005 5:56:28 PM PDT by Sarcastic1 (Don't make me adverb verb you,you adjective noun!)
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To: 300winmag

I shot the Steyer in 1980 when it was barely past prototype. How many mags you got? Common mags are very important in my opinion. ARs, FALs etc.


115 posted on 09/16/2005 9:53:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
How many mags you got? Common mags are very important in my opinion. ARs, FALs etc.

I agree. That's why I bought a dozen extra mags, back when AUGs and their magazines were cheap. If magazines become a problem, I'll have to start using the weapon that the other guy doesn't need any more.

116 posted on 09/16/2005 10:46:54 PM PDT by 300winmag (FR's Hobbit Hole supports America's troops)
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To: SLB
These idiots have done themselves in with the local voters.

They shipped away their base last week when the underclass masses left.

The remaining law abiding citizens will wreck havoc on them in the next election.

117 posted on 09/17/2005 9:29:49 PM PDT by the irate magistrate
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To: Mr. Mojo

Ping for later.


118 posted on 09/18/2005 10:09:53 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bush says he may need more power in disasters

Isn't this great? (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I was looking at this and wondering if anyone in Congress would seriously oppose it. I'll bet you a stick of 6" PVC pipe they won't.

119 posted on 09/18/2005 10:32:27 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Happy2BMe; EdReform; jonestown; Ladysmith; Petruchio; Shooter 2.5; Mr. Mojo; PeterPrinciple; ...
(((Armed Citizen ping)))



You are being pinged because of your interest in every-day citizens using firearms to save life and limb. Freep-mail if you want on/off.


Good read. Explains why we do what we do.

Special ping image courtesy of A-human-right.com
120 posted on 09/19/2005 6:29:51 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Terabitten
Excellent articles. I should have included a .22LR rifle like the Ruger 10-22 as my #3 in my post to Paladin2

Good list. I was about to add the 10/22. Great for kids and those skittish about recoil and 50 rd. mags

121 posted on 09/19/2005 1:33:08 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6
Good list. I was about to add the 10/22. Great for kids and those skittish about recoil and 50 rd. mags

Yeah, for survival purposes, a 10-22 can keep you fed pretty much indefinitely. The ammo is dirt cheap, they're accurate, and they're a hoot to shoot. The Remington Nylon 66 is another great little .22 rifle. Too bad they don't make them anymore - I wish Remington would produce them again. They're wonderful little rifles.

122 posted on 09/19/2005 2:29:20 PM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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