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'Scary' U of M student jailed, Possible terrorism ties under investigation
commercialappeal.com - Memphis, TN ^ | September 16, 2005 | Chris Conley

Posted on 09/16/2005 5:58:17 AM PDT by gg188

'Scary' U of M student jailed
Possible terrorism ties under investigation

By Chris Conley

September 16, 2005

When FBI agents walked into Mahmoud Maawad's spartan apartment at 3557 Mynders # 5 on Sept. 9, they found a desk, chair, computer and a Koran.

They also found an airline pilot's uniform, a chart of Memphis International Airport, and instructional DVDs, including one called "How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act."

A federal magistrate Thursday ordered Maawad, a 29-year-old University of Memphis student from Egypt, jailed until his trial on charges of wire fraud and fraudulent use of a Social Security number.

"The specific facts and circumstances are scary," Asst. U.S. Atty. Steve Parker said, arguing against Maawad's release.

Since Maawad can't get a Social Security number, "he can't get a pilot's license, and can't go to flight school," Parker said. "But he wants to get behind the wheel of an aircraft."

Parker said "we don't know either way" if Maawad is a terrorist or connected to any terror groups.

U.S. Magistrate Judge S. Thomas Anderson ruled that Maawad be held without bond.

Though it's not illegal to buy aviation material, Anderson noted, "it is hard for the court to understand why he has a large concentration of those items, and nothing else to indicate Mr. Maawad plans to stay in the community."

Maawad has been in the country illegally since 1999, and has used a false Social Security number to enroll in schools and open a bank account, Parker said.

He's been working off-the-books for cash at a North Memphis convenience store, and was arrested by Shelby County sheriff's deputies last spring for selling alcohol to a minor.

Agents are downloading information from Maawad's computer and analyzing materials from his apartment in search of a terrorism connection.

"My school is everything," said Maawad, a clean-shaven man built like a weightlifter. "I stay in this country for seven years; I stay for the school."

Maawad said he's studying science and economics at the U of M.

Since Maawad can't work legally, he told authorities a friend would support him.

When court employees tried to reach that friend, the telephone was disconnected.

Between April and August, the penniless student ordered $3,000 in aviation materials, DVDs titled "Ups and Downs of Takeoffs and Landings," "Airplane Talk," "Mental Math for Pilots" and "Mastering GPS Flying," FBI agent Thad Gulczynski testified.

He also ordered a pilot's coat and hat, and a chart of the Memphis airport terminal area from Spotty's USA in San Diego.

When the company didn't receive payment on $2,500 worth of merchandise it had delivered, officials called the FBI, which launched an investigation, Gulczynski said.

-- Chris Conley: 529-2595

Copyright 2005, commercialappeal.com - Memphis, TN. All Rights Reserved.


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1 posted on 09/16/2005 5:58:18 AM PDT by gg188
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To: gg188
When the company didn't receive payment on $2,500 worth of merchandise it had delivered, officials called the FBI, which launched an investigation, Gulczynski said.

So does this mean that if his handlers had actually paid for the materials, the FBI wouldn't have been contacted and this loser could have gone on to blow up an aircraft or airport? Now the terrorists have learned a lesson: pay for your stuff and you won't get caught.

2 posted on 09/16/2005 6:02:24 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: Capriole

Shoot the bastard...NOW!


3 posted on 09/16/2005 6:04:58 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: gg188
Interesting.

Now that passengers are willing to resist and even kill troublemakers in the cabin, and now that pilots are sealed into their cockpits and inaccessible from the cabin, Al-Qaeda has developed a new strategy - pilot impersonation.

Rather clever - I hope the authorities learn quickly from this new development and takes steps to neutralize this tactic.

Numerous times I have been on flights where the pilot and flight crew were running late, and when they arrived they just ran right onboard with minimal hassle.,p>Perhaps he was hoping on just that kind of lax scrutiny.

4 posted on 09/16/2005 6:05:20 AM PDT by wideawake (She)
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To: highlymotivated

Are you nuts? Shoot him later - extract information from him now, by any means necessary.


5 posted on 09/16/2005 6:06:09 AM PDT by wideawake (She)
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To: gg188

The court...Naughty boy, turn in your uniform and be on your way.


7 posted on 09/16/2005 6:07:09 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: Capriole
I was about to make the same point. My God, this company is selling pilot uniforms and instruction manuals to someone named Mahmoud Maawad, and they don't notify the FBI immediately! The Patriot Act was supposed to protect us, not the terrorists!
8 posted on 09/16/2005 6:08:27 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: gg188
DVDs titled "Ups and Downs of Takeoffs and Landings,"

Well at least he had an interest in learning how to land.

9 posted on 09/16/2005 6:08:59 AM PDT by Maceman (Pro Se Defendant from Hell)
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To: gg188
Maawad has been in the country illegally since 1999...

More to add to the Clinton legacy, I see.

10 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:09 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: gg188

All he would have to have done is pick up a copy of "Flying for Dummies" and he would have been good to go.


11 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:15 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: gg188
Maawad has been in the country illegally since 1999, and has used a false Social Security number to enroll in schools and open a bank account, Parker said. He's been working off-the-books for cash at a North Memphis convenience store, and was arrested by Shelby County sheriff's deputies last spring for selling alcohol to a minor.

No, border security isn't a national security issue.

12 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:22 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: gg188

Thank God these people are generally idiots. I hasten to recall how Mohammad Atta, in his defining moment, came within minutes of missing his flight... And then there's Moussaoui attempt to learn how to fly planes but not land them...


13 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:48 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: wideawake

Of course. I meant to say AFTER he's been drained of all information via Industrial Strength Cattle Prods to tender areas.


14 posted on 09/16/2005 6:09:53 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: gg188

He needs a one-way ticket to Gitmo. STAT.


15 posted on 09/16/2005 6:10:40 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: gg188

That can't be right. An illegal alien connected to what appears to be terrorist related activities? (sarc)


16 posted on 09/16/2005 6:11:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Capriole
Its my hope that they discovered him through other means that the FBI don't want to disclose to the public because they don't want the terrorist to be that smart.
17 posted on 09/16/2005 6:12:33 AM PDT by Taggart_D
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To: gg188

The Prudent elected officials would stop allowing students into the country that are between 18 and 40 and of middle eastern descent.

Foreign exchange students do not collect flight uniforms, and pose as pilots. Use stolen social security numbers and behave in this manner.

When we wake up, we might save this country. We used to be concerned about the majority of the population, now we are only concerned about not discriminating against middle eastern men who are between 18 to 40 and pose a threat against us. Those men are protected under our laws. No sense.


18 posted on 09/16/2005 6:15:00 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: wideawake

Extract information first, then....

this reminds me of what my father said if he was a judge and guys like the Shoe Bomber came into his court. After the testimony, my father would signal the court guard to come over, he would wisper in their ear "Give him the #1" and accused would be escorted from the courtroom never to be heard from or seen again.

This guy needs the #1 treatment.


19 posted on 09/16/2005 6:15:19 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: Maceman

Very few training manuals cover ONLY how to take off.


20 posted on 09/16/2005 6:15:22 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Our President's intervention saved lives.)
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To: cloud8

Now don't jump to conclusions. Just because Mahmoud had a pilot's uniform and instructional material on how to fly an airplane, does not mean he was up to something bad.

After all, he had a Koran in his room. He's probably quite a religious little fellow.


21 posted on 09/16/2005 6:16:03 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Capriole
I don't think he had handlers just based on the evidence presented in this article. It says he got $3000 in aviation materials, but never paid $2,500 of it.

I don't think he was financed. I do think he was a nut. Good thing AQ did not find him first, IMHO.

22 posted on 09/16/2005 6:16:38 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: cloud8

If they're not too busy, perhaps the FBI can make a list of businesses that sell these uniforms and books.


23 posted on 09/16/2005 6:16:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: cynicom
A friend will support him. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
24 posted on 09/16/2005 6:17:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Capriole

I totally agree. Greed first, patriotism second. I'd like to know the name of the company so I can boycott its products (which I am sure I would never buy in the first place).


25 posted on 09/16/2005 6:17:49 AM PDT by Juan Medén
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To: wideawake

I always thought it was crazy to make the cockpits impregnable for the very reason you mention.

Also, a year or so before 9/11 there was an Egyptian passenger plane that did a nosedive into the ocean right off the coast of New York, with the pilot forcing the plane into the ocean. Some theorized that the pilot was supposed to crash into a NYC target, but instead, forced his plane into the ocean.

In our country, almost every airport calls itself an "International" Airport, accepting flights that originate from foreign countries. Some of these airports are pretty deep inside our borders and the direct flights from overseas to these airports pass over vast areas of our country.

These flights come in on airlines from Egypt and Pakistan, and it worries me that a fanatic pilot could kill his cockpit crew (and while safely behind his impregnable cockpit door) pilot his plane into a nuclear or chemical plant.


26 posted on 09/16/2005 6:20:05 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: gg188
"Parker said "we don't know either way" if Maawad is a terrorist or connected to any terror groups. "

Dumb@$$...

27 posted on 09/16/2005 6:20:23 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: highlymotivated

Extract the names of his supporters first.


28 posted on 09/16/2005 6:21:05 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: Capriole

Yeah, that's what it looks like. We wouldn't have heard of this SOB if he paid for his materials. Next time they will pay.


29 posted on 09/16/2005 6:21:40 AM PDT by zek157
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To: gg188
"My school is everything," said Maawad, a clean-shaven man built like a weightlifter. "I stay in this country for seven years; I stay for the school."

No problem here, let's move on!!
30 posted on 09/16/2005 6:23:45 AM PDT by evaporation-plus
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To: gg188

After all, he could just be a typical Microsoft Flight Simulator geek who likes to dress up in a captain's uniform while making the JFK-LAX run on his computer. ;)


31 posted on 09/16/2005 6:24:48 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: gg188

Summary execution at half-time?


32 posted on 09/16/2005 6:25:01 AM PDT by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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"My school is everything," said Maawad, a clean-shaven man built like a weightlifter

I live in Birmingham, Alabama and last monday 9.11.05 I was at the Gold's working out and there were 3 Middle Eastern guys working out (what caught my eye is one of them had that creepy smug Atta looking face). I kept looking at them the whole time. We also happened to leave at the same time. They were getting in a black Ford (the police car style Ford) with black tinted windows and no license plate. Odds are they aren't terrorist, but the sad thing is they dont even have to worry about getting caught doing silly things like not having a tag. They just get released (if they get caught) and go along their way.
33 posted on 09/16/2005 6:25:29 AM PDT by Boogieman69
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To: gg188
He's been working off-the-books for cash at a North Memphis convenience store

And one can assume the proprieter of this convenience store will be prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens, tax evasion and thwarting State employment laws, right?

...right??

...

...Right!!??

...

...

*crickets chirping*

34 posted on 09/16/2005 6:30:02 AM PDT by Gritty ("The question isn't how dare I call Islam a terror organization, but why more people do not-M Graham)
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To: gg188

I don't think humane rules should apply to people like him...I realize this is America and we don't operate like that...but anyone connected to terrorism should be destroyed publicly.


35 posted on 09/16/2005 6:30:36 AM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: highlymotivated

No, you're acting a little rash here.

First, you torture him to get every bit of info as possible...

...and then you shoot him.


36 posted on 09/16/2005 6:31:05 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Terabitten

The entire National Guard stationed along the Mexican border would not have discovered or stopped this guy. It is a lead pipe cinch he didn't come from that direction. Maybe the Northern border but most likely flew in to an Eastern airport.


37 posted on 09/16/2005 6:32:51 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: wideawake

Nah, shoot his toes off, one by one, and see how he sings. If that doesn't work, kneecap him.

If that fails, strap him to a dead pig...then kill him.


38 posted on 09/16/2005 6:33:26 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: gg188
"instructional DVDs, including one called "How an Airline Captain Should Look and Act.""


39 posted on 09/16/2005 6:36:34 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The entire National Guard stationed along the Mexican border would not have discovered or stopped this guy. It is a lead pipe cinch he didn't come from that direction. Maybe the Northern border but most likely flew in to an Eastern airport.

You're probably right. The more I think about it, he probably had an expired student visa. That seems to be the method of choice for the hadjis.

40 posted on 09/16/2005 6:39:30 AM PDT by Terabitten (God grant me the strength to live a life worthy of those who have gone before me.)
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To: television is just wrong
The Prudent elected officials would stop allowing students into the country that are between 18 and 40 and of middle eastern descent

NYU and BU and a few other universities would go bankrupt.

41 posted on 09/16/2005 6:46:58 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Gritty

There's a gas station/convenience store in North Memphis that I use because their gas prices are always lower than anyone in the city. The staff is about 8 ME guys, 20-40yo, and they have recently rotated in a number of new guys. Every time I'm in there, I can't help but wonder...
I have NEVER seen a woman of ME decent there with them.I keep telling myself that their culture requires them to work, with their women at home.
Sometimes I think I shouldnt buy from them, but then I think I'm just being racist.
What would you other Freepers do?
BTW, Memphis has been LOADED with stories of ME men being arrested for ID fraud, one of which ended with their black female coconspiritor with the licensing bureau dead in a one car accident. Another story is of a man caught in a bogus marriage scam for citizenship, and pics of him firing an RPG were found in his home.
Yeah, nothing going on here in Memphis!!


42 posted on 09/16/2005 6:48:25 AM PDT by amadeus
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To: ladyjane

That is because they get an inflated amount of tuition for taking in these foreign students. These foreign students are taking spots away from American students who are actually turned away for an education because these guys pay more and take up space of just one student.


43 posted on 09/16/2005 6:49:51 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I would not define them as idiots. Atta murdered nearly 3,000 people and brought down the trade centers. He did not almost miss his flight. He had the timing down perfectly because he had lots of dry runs. He knew how much time he needed to get to his flights while spending as little time as possible in the airport. He also knew that the man in Maine withheld his boarding pass for his Boston connection, when it should have been given to him. They sent up lots of red flags, sure, but idiots, no. People who need to be wiped off the face of the planet? Yes.


44 posted on 09/16/2005 6:50:07 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Well behaved women rarely make history. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich)
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To: wideawake
extract information from him now, by any means necessary.

Paging Jack Bauer? Sounds good to me!

45 posted on 09/16/2005 6:51:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: amadeus

It's not a matter of being Racist. When was the last time that a 19 year old Blonde Swedish bombshell blew herself up in a crowded market place?

You were right to wonder, but you should be more than that. Highly suspicious.


46 posted on 09/16/2005 6:57:34 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: WV Mountain Mama

good points


47 posted on 09/16/2005 6:59:00 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Terabitten

I find interesting that the Shelby County Sheriff cut him loose after arresting him on any charge.

Nothing has been learned since 9/11.


48 posted on 09/16/2005 7:08:20 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: gg188
"My school is everything," said Maawad, a clean-shaven man built like a weightlifter. "I stay in this country for seven years; I stay for the school."

Yeah right, it's freaking Tiger High not like it is a real college
49 posted on 09/16/2005 7:11:35 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Juan Medén

Are you going to boycott every company that sells Microsoft Flight Simulator? Including Microsoft itself?

Good luck with this. Let me know how it works out.


50 posted on 09/16/2005 7:21:34 AM PDT by Cheburashka
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