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Critics Fear Trailer 'Ghettos'
Washington Post ^ | September 16, 2005 | By Jonathan Weisman

Posted on 09/16/2005 11:00:33 PM PDT by BigFinn

On the dusty grounds of Lone Star Army Ammunition Plant in Texarkana, Tex., the recreational vehicles and mobile homes are arriving at a rate of 100 a day before being shipped out to the fringes of Hurricane Katrina's disaster zone.

Those trailers, among 300,000 to be purchased with nearly $5 billion of federal money, have become a focal point of criticism of the Bush administration's early rebuilding efforts. Some conservatives blanch at the cost. And many critics fret that mobile homes will hardly protect their residents from the next storm.

But most of all, housing experts -- conservatives and liberals alike -- worry that Federal Emergency Management Agency encampments will quickly become what former House Speaker Newt Gingrich called "ghettos of despair." Rental vouchers in a market with plenty of available housing would be cheaper and faster and provide better accommodations, they say.

"Three hundred thousand manufactured homes? People are screaming about that," fumed Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.). "I tell you, FEMA is a disaster."

When Katrina struck, FEMA did what it has always done in the wake of a major hurricane: turned to its standing list of contractors, including several mobile home manufacturers. Within days, the agency began discussions with the Manufactured Housing Institute, and then purchased 20,000 fully furnished mobile homes and began shipping them to staging areas in Texarkana; Purvis, Miss.; Selma, Ala.; and Baton Rouge, La.

State government then began scouring parks, government land and private sites to establish communities of evacuees. Just as quickly, housing experts of all political stripes began to howl in protest.

"If they simply put poor people in mobile homes, they would be re-creating the same troubled neighborhoods that were destroyed," said Susan J. Popkin, a housing expert at the Urban Institute. "And we know how to do this better."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evacueetrailors; helpless; hookedonhandouts; katrina; relief; urbanbarbarians
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To: little jeremiah
Living in a mobile home does not turn people into hopeless drug addicts or amoral gangsters.

Maybe not, but it does have an effect on their dental health somehow.

41 posted on 09/17/2005 4:45:57 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Born in a Rage

"I think the trailers are a start, if they want more it's up to them. Other people have lost homes in disasters, I don't recall us buying them trailers or anything else..."

Hell, it was good enough for the folks in Florida after Charley last year. Some are still living in them while there homes are being rebuilt. I guess if your poor from NO it's not good enough? I'm sick of this BS!

Those poor folks in MS would LOVE to have a temporary mobile home right now. Beats the the back seat of your car, if you still have one.


42 posted on 09/17/2005 4:46:12 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: LucyJo

It worked for Jim Rockford.


43 posted on 09/17/2005 4:48:48 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: BigFinn

Just keep the wheels on them...


44 posted on 09/17/2005 4:50:45 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Some assembly required.)
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To: BigFinn

Sure they'll be killing each other in these ghettos-to-go, but that's what they were doing in the government's Projects, so they'll feel right at home with the sound of gunfire at night.


45 posted on 09/17/2005 4:51:19 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: T Minus Four

Just what I need to see...."spinners" on a mobile home. I did see them on an 18 wheeler.


46 posted on 09/17/2005 4:59:30 AM PDT by chemicalman (Finally an answer for the prisoner problem at Abu Ghraib: Don't take any.)
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To: alnick
It's the people, not the housing, that makes for a "troubled neighborhood."

Exactly. And that's the problem with setting up evacuee trailer parks, and the problem with our national approach to public housing projects in general.

Poverty is largely in individial issue, but it has a critical mass -- pile enough poor people together, and it becomes harder for those striving for a better life to succeed. An ambitious kid trying to make a buck mowing lawns can't do it if there isn't a lawn for a mile in any direction.

The old model of public housing is this. Create an artificial community without any services other than those provided by the government -- no restaurants, shops, or jobs. Stick a bunch of desperate people in a neighborhood where all they see is other deperate people, where there aren't any cops or nurses or architects living down the street, where success is defined as getting out and the only role models kids see who have any initiative are the pimps and dealers.

The government doesn't create jobs, but it can create -- and has often created -- an environment in which it's nearly impossible for the businesses that create jobs to take root.

The article rightly points out that both conservative and liberal experts are leery of the trailer plan, and that reflects a similar consensus that has emerged on old-style housing projects. They were fine during the New Deal era, when the priority was to get people into any kind of decent housing, but there are better approaches.

Rather than try to build taxpayer-funded Potemkin villages, help people move into real neighborhoods, get jobs and get (back) on their feet. Whether you approach the issue from the liberal approach of giving poor people stuff or the conservative approach of encouraging them to stand on their own two feet, the old-model housing projects fail at both.

If the trailers are going to house people for a few weeks or months, fine. They're better than the Astrodome. But they must be treated as a way station, not a destination.

47 posted on 09/17/2005 5:09:23 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Lancey Howard
They should name the trailer park "Evacueeville" or E-ville" for short.

Nah. "Car-ville", and drag a hundred dollar bill through it for an opening ceremony (I still think you'd get the DNC).

48 posted on 09/17/2005 5:29:18 AM PDT by Grut
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To: BigFinn
WWL 870 AM is the New Orleans emergency station and available at night all over the country.

They are broadcasting 24/7 regarding the storm, lost relatives, rebuilding, etc.

Many, many people have not seen what was left behind, Monday parts or Orleans parish are to open.

I can't help but think that a great number of people will go back home for a few days and realize that the "rebuilding" will takes years and years to complete.

Better to move on NOW to another place than hang on thinking it will be back like it was ever.

Should they tie careers and their children's future to New Orleans when they can go to work and start over some other place?

Mayor Nagin talks about rebuilding the city with the same character as before. Seems like those old neighborhoods 18 feet up on piling may change the character.

New Orleans and its citizens are unaware that the FEMA cure and National Flood cure comes at a high price.

Yesterday was the one year anniversary of Ivan in S AL and NW FL. We were not under water for weeks and although a large storm, small by Katrina standards. Still many many displaced. Travel trailers in front of concrete slabs of formerly 750 K homes. People in the same situation 12 months post storm as those in NOLA and MS and S AL today.

Perhaps 10% of the number here as in Katrina's wake but still a disaster and very slow to recover.

The NOLA gov't spokesperson bravado will soon change to, "have patience, the attorney general and governor are filing lawsuits against,
(fill in blank of your insurance carrier here)

FEMA does a wonderful job of getting food and water to people after a storm. Part of the job also I guess is to give hope that everything is going to be okay again. Everybody calls the number, few see any aid, but its months later after the media attention has moved on to another disaster that the locals realize they are really on their own.
49 posted on 09/17/2005 5:45:50 AM PDT by Deepest South
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To: sinkspur
Buy Ashley Furniture

Is it a public or privately owned company? Do you know the symbol? Thanks.

50 posted on 09/17/2005 6:00:07 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: thoughtomator

Sad but true.


51 posted on 09/17/2005 6:51:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BigFinn
"Critics Fear Trailer 'Ghettos'"

Just throw a few old car tires on the roof, and don't worry........

52 posted on 09/17/2005 6:56:47 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: poobear

People are simply stuck on the stereotypes. The storm affected everyone in the area regardless of their race or socioeconomic standing. Those who are rebuilding have to have a place to live too. It's going to take some time simply because of the sheer volume of affected people. How many cities were basically wiped out?

I wish I was a carpenter and a contractor right now. Dang can you imagine the job security for the next few years?


53 posted on 09/17/2005 7:11:17 AM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dem's can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: CajunConservative

I've had the same thought, CajunConservative...Good time to be a contractor free to go to the Gulf Coast...


54 posted on 09/17/2005 7:14:41 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I am going to do some more volunteer work with Habitat for Humanity. They are rehabbing a lot of the older homes around here so that they can be used for permanent housing. A local church is converting their older educational building into apartments to help several families. This is happening all over in order to provide permanent affordable housing for those who want the help to get on their feet.

I don't have the skills to be a contractor but I do know how to use a hammer the right way, not bad for a girl. So I will volunteer my time to the cause. ;)


55 posted on 09/17/2005 7:24:07 AM PDT by CajunConservative ("Dem's can bus people to the polls but can't bus them out of danger to save their lives.")
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Were commercial HVACR mechanical contractors. EVERYBODY needs air-conditioning on the gulf coast commercial or residential. If they can keep the whining unions out of there, this is a huge opportunity. There is no way I'm paying an inexperienced helper $25.00 per hour + overtime ($37.50) & benefits to stand around and wait to be told what to do. Unions -!
56 posted on 09/17/2005 8:07:42 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence.)
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To: BigFinn
Trailers are nicer than Jesse's tents.
57 posted on 09/17/2005 9:46:43 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: BigFinn
http://www.zgeek.com/trailerparkpage/
58 posted on 09/17/2005 9:51:34 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: BigFinn
I would think that furnished trailers would make sense for people in the devastated MS Coast, someplace to live as a family while the rebuild their devastated homes. It does not make sense for the urbanites of NOLA and other cities.

There may be a million rental units available in the South but how many are furnished and how far distance are they from the damaged areas?

59 posted on 09/17/2005 10:08:32 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: BigFinn

There is nothing wrong with "mobile homes", "manufactured housing", or its equivalent these days. They are really built a whole lot better than they used to be. If you put them down on a permanent foundation and own the land under them, they actually can appreciate in value. Lenders here in Kansas though have a very strict system on which to loan money for re-sale. They can't have been moved twice and they have to be kept in excellent condition. Some folks even put them over a basement. Honestly though the manufacturers have really improved them over the past several years. I myself would prefer a stick built house, but wouldn't look a gift horse (house) in the mouth. Geez Marge, get off your throne!


60 posted on 09/17/2005 10:10:00 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Jest becuz you put yer boots in the oven, don't make it bread)
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