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Venezuelan Authorities Seize Idle Heinz Ketchup Plant (a more detailed article/discussion)
Venezualan Analysis ^ | September 9, 2005 | Gregory Wilpert

Posted on 09/17/2005 7:35:17 AM PDT by mcg2000

Venezuelan Authorities Seize Idle Heinz Ketchup Plant

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 By: Gregory Wilpert – Venezuelanalysis.com

Caracas, Venezuela, September 9, 2005—Venezuelan military seized a Heinz Ketchup plant in Venezuela’s Monagas state last Monday. Heinz company representatives complained that the seizure represented, “a violation of property rights and free trade as well as due process.” Venezuela’s Minister for Agriculture and Land, Antonio Albarrán, argued, though, that 80% of the plant actually belongs to the workers and that Heinz bought the plant illegally in 1996. The plant has been closed for nearly a decade, according to Albarrán.

The take-over of the Heinz plant in the town of Caicara, Monagas, was carried out by Venezuelan troops at the request of the pro-Chavez state governor, José Gregorio Briceño. The move comes at a time that the Chavez government is investigating over 700 closed enterprises, evaluating them for their suitability for worker takeovers, via expropriation.

Workers at many other factories and businesses have begun taking matters in their own hands, not waiting for the government to act in the expropriation of idle factories.

The president of the anti-Chavez industrial business federation Conindustria, Juan Francisco Mejías, said that he hopes that the government will “rectify” its action in the case of the Heinz tomato processing plant.

However, the president of the National Confederation of Ranchers and Agricultural Businesses, José Augustín Campos, a group that is considered to be close to the government, said that Heinz's closing of the plant was a “criminal act” because it caused all the surrounding tomato growers to go out of business.

The coordinator of Venezuela’s new union federation, the National Union of Venezuelan Workers (UNT – Unión Nacional de Trabajadores Venezolanos), Marcela Máspero, said that the UNT is considering the take-over of 800 closed businesses. “Accompanied by the communities, we will occupy these businesses because we cannot continue to allow that the reactivation of the country’s productive apparatus is diminished due to the closure of businesses,” said Máspero.

Máspero also said that the UNT would ask Venezuela’s National Assembly to declare these businesses of “public utility,” a necessary step prior to the government’s expropriation of privately owned businesses. Máspero estimates that up to 20,000 jobs could be rescued via such takeovers.

According to Máspero there are currently eight businesses in Venezuela that workers have occupied, to which belongs the Heinz plant in Monagas. Others include Probamasa, a corn processing plant owned by the food and beverage company Polar; a plant belonging to the dairy company Parmalat, in Machiques; Parmalat in Barquisimeto; Sideroca Proacero in Cabimas; the valve factory Inveval in Los Teques; the paper plant Invepal in Morón; and the meat-packing company Fribarsa in Barinas. Only two of these, Inveval and Invepal, have completed the full legal procedure for turning the plants over to the workers.

Máspero explained, “First we occupy and then we resolve the issue of ownership, as there is always a reason for the occupation.” As an example she cited the recently occupied Promabrasa, where “the workers told us that for over six months now the business owes them back pay. We requested an inspection by the Ministry of Labor and they are carrying out all the legal procedures.”

According to Venezuelan law, once the National Assembly declares a business to be of “public utility,” the executive may expropriate it, compensating legal owners at market value for the business. Chavez has said that his government would turn such expropriated businesses into state and worker co-managed businesses.

Venezuela’s Labor Minister, Maria Cristina Iglesias, recently provided an assessment of the 700 businesses the government is considering for expropriation. According to Iglesias, in 155 of the cases both owners and workers have already committed themselves to the principle of co-management, implying that original owners and the workers would co-manage these, without the state’s involvement.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Cuba; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: castro; chavez; communism; cuba; heinz; hugochavez; landgrab; socialism

1 posted on 09/17/2005 7:35:20 AM PDT by mcg2000
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To: mcg2000

---having seen the quality of Venezuelan "labor" about twenty-five years ago, I am sure any "business" co-managed by them will be an abject failure---quickly--


2 posted on 09/17/2005 7:41:01 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Does anyone remember Uganda??


3 posted on 09/17/2005 7:42:09 AM PDT by mcg2000 ("They're all so desperate, so poor and so black. - "Wolf Blitzer)
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To: mcg2000

Ah yes, expropriation on behalf of the workers. These policies always work so well where they take place. Success stories like the Soviet Union, Cuba, Zimbabwe. I guess we can't advocate the Pat Robertson solution for dealing with Chavez, so I won't. But if something should accidentally happen to Hugo, well, I'll bet I could hold up under the strain.


4 posted on 09/17/2005 7:42:57 AM PDT by speedy
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To: mcg2000

Sorry, but I just can't seem to rake up much sympathy for Theresa. Now, sympathy for "all those little brown naked children" who's parents have lost their jobs is another story.


5 posted on 09/17/2005 7:43:02 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

What does Teresa have to do with any of this?


6 posted on 09/17/2005 7:45:05 AM PDT by mcg2000 ("They're all so desperate, so poor and so black. - "Wolf Blitzer)
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To: rellimpank

and the march to communism in South America continues...(rolling eyes)


7 posted on 09/17/2005 7:45:12 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: jan in Colorado

Good news...soon to be more ketchup on the market! ;-)

Bad news...it seems it will be Red.


8 posted on 09/17/2005 7:45:56 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mcg2000

Hmmmm...I wonder if Heinz pulled some leftie connections to get an environmental mess off their books! ;-)


9 posted on 09/17/2005 7:47:06 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mtbopfuyn

btw ...

While Teresa Heinz Kerry gained much of her $500 million portfolio through her Heinz inheritance, she does not serve on the board and is not involved with the management of the company. Even her late husband, Sen. H. John Heinz III, did not serve on the board.

No Heinz family member has been employed by the company or served on its board since H.J. Heinz II, its chairman, died in 1987.

Teresa owns less than 4 percent of the company's stock.


10 posted on 09/17/2005 7:54:39 AM PDT by mcg2000 ("They're all so desperate, so poor and so black. - "Wolf Blitzer)
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To: mcg2000

--while we don't hear much about it , I am under the impression that post-Idi Amin Uganda is--relatively speaking--one of the few success stories out of Africa, especially as concerns AIDS--


11 posted on 09/17/2005 7:55:32 AM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: mcg2000
>Teresa owns less than 4 percent of the company's stock

Maybe Teresa
is sleeping with Hugo and
wants her business back . . .


12 posted on 09/17/2005 7:59:30 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: mcg2000
not waiting for the government to act in the expropriation of idle factories.

The original "eminent domain".

13 posted on 09/17/2005 8:07:27 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: mcg2000



Ex-pro-pri-a-tion,
Ex-pro-pri-a-yay-tion...


14 posted on 09/17/2005 8:30:47 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: mcg2000
Now, they've Kerried it too far!
15 posted on 09/17/2005 8:35:50 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ( "Go ahead, punk, make my Earl Grey." - Mark Steyn)
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To: mcg2000

Has anyone gotten a comment from Ter-ray-za or John Francois on this matter? Has anyone asked her when she will give all her wealth to "the people"?

On a side note - can anyone tell me why I can't find Heinz pourable yellow mustard north of Baltimore? I tried it in DC and really liked it, can't find a trace of it here in the NYC metro area. We're Gulden's folks up here, but I'd like to try that Heinz again.

And no, we never did boycott Heinz, sorry, their ketchup is just the best.


16 posted on 09/17/2005 8:39:45 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Gondring; jocon307; mcg2000
Good news...soon to be more ketchup on the market! ;-)

I'll stick with "W" ketchup, thanks.

It is delicious!

17 posted on 09/17/2005 10:16:27 AM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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18 posted on 09/17/2005 10:41:52 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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19 posted on 09/17/2005 10:43:03 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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BTTT!!!!!!


20 posted on 09/17/2005 11:00:06 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: mcg2000
Teresa owns less than 4 percent of the company's stock.

Using market cap as a metric:

Friday’s close=$12.2B

Using your less than 4% ownership

I guess you could say Teresa owns less than $488M of the company’s. I certainly would like to have less than half a billion wouldn’t you?

ROFLMPO

Just yanking your chain I totally agree with you substance and thrust of your post.

21 posted on 09/17/2005 11:32:47 AM PDT by Aquakat (The Media is the enemy of America; ACT ACCORDINGLY.)
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To: mcg2000

..I bet John F'n Kerry, just won't/can't understand....what happened in Czarist Russia (in 1918) and Castros' (in 1961) Cuba is now happening in Chevas' Venevuela...


22 posted on 09/17/2005 12:37:50 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: mcg2000

Judges Stevens, Ginsberg, Bryer approve.


23 posted on 09/17/2005 1:11:41 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: mcg2000

"The take-over of the Heinz plant in the town of Caicara, Monagas, was carried out by Venezuelan troops at the request of the pro-Chavez state governor, José Gregorio Briceño. The move comes at a time that the Chavez government is investigating over 700 closed enterprises, evaluating them for their suitability for worker takeovers, via expropriation."

Fascinating Communist strategy ... destroy the economy so badly that factories get idled, then 'take over' the factories that were idled by your own policies. hmmmm.


24 posted on 09/17/2005 2:30:26 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: mcg2000
Damn! They figured out it was going to be the staging area for the US invasion/coup of Venezuela.
25 posted on 09/17/2005 2:33:44 PM PDT by Nachoman
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To: skinkinthegrass
I think Teresa ought to send JOHN F'ING KERRY down there on Christmas Eve with a swift boat crew and just take that factory back from those evil people in Venezuela. I think he might get to pin some more purple hearts on himself, and maybe get to shoot some kid in the back when he runs from him. Teresa would be proud of her man taking charge too!! I bet he can get ol' Al Gore to help him out as Al knows everything there is to know-I mean after all,he invented the internet, didn't he? And, best of all, Michael Moore can film it for the MSM primetime shows!
26 posted on 09/17/2005 2:36:47 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: mcg2000

Just picking Kerry cherrys.


27 posted on 09/17/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: mcg2000

Inquiring minds want to know ---- Did they find Kerry's Military Records?????


28 posted on 09/17/2005 2:54:12 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: geezerwheezer
Ahhh, Yes...A fine movie plot, if I ever heard of one...perhaps GWB could have a leading role in same. "BUSH'S FAULT, The War to End Property" with bit parts/supporting roles, given to Congressional Liberals...Chavez, and Klintoons w/ "Top" Billing(s) :D
29 posted on 09/17/2005 5:12:29 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: mcg2000

They have control of the local Heinz enterprizes? We have no choice but to toss in Teresa Heinz and her giggilo, John Kerry Heinz.


30 posted on 09/17/2005 6:42:04 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Once sanity and morality is exposed to that DC air, it dissolves faster than a snowball in hell.)
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To: geezerwheezer

This is actually a good idea, send a bunch of libs down there in uniform to take back Mr. and Mrs. Kerry's property from mad Hugo.., this could be like Operation Chickenhawk excapet just Operation Chicken (I have liberal moonbat friends, so I've read Franken's books).......


31 posted on 09/17/2005 7:19:13 PM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic, will be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure society!)
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To: mcg2000
This is what they get for locating in other countries. Outsourcing businesses to other countries can be very costly. I don't feel sorry for them.
32 posted on 09/17/2005 7:30:19 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: NRA2BFree
"This is what they get for locating in other countries. Outsourcing businesses to other countries can be very costly. I don't feel sorry for them."

It's not an issue of "outsourcing". Most of the factories Heinz has overseas are for products that are made there and delivered there, not brought back into the US.

33 posted on 09/17/2005 7:40:21 PM PDT by Trinity5
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To: NRA2BFree

Heinz didn't outsource?

Please pass this note along to your Union Steward before the next meeting at the cannery ...

The overall tax on imported goods vs. the projected sale will play a large role in building overseas - logistics costs, import/export tariffs, labor pool, labor rates, construction costs, etc


34 posted on 09/18/2005 5:29:33 AM PDT by mcg2000 ("They're all so desperate, so poor and so black. - "Wolf Blitzer)
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To: mcg2000
Heinz didn't outsource?

I have no idea.

Please pass this note along to your Union Steward before the next meeting at the cannery ...

You're talking to the wrong woman. I've been self employed since 1986. I don't believe in unions, but that's another story. :o)

The overall tax on imported goods vs. the projected sale will play a large role in building overseas - logistics costs, import/export tariffs, labor pool, labor rates, construction costs, etc

I haven't moved into the international arena.....yet, I have to defer to your knowledge on this issue. I was just taking a swipe at Heinz because of Kerry. LOL

35 posted on 09/18/2005 11:40:06 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: NRA2BFree

I'd never step on that logic - swipe away! lol


36 posted on 09/18/2005 3:21:14 PM PDT by mcg2000 (New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad against The Red Cross.)
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To: freepatriot32

Looks like Cuba all over again - Tuh-Ray-Zuh ya had it comming!!!!


37 posted on 09/18/2005 8:15:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: mcg2000
"Does anyone remember Uganda??"

Or the Congo (Katanga), or Rhodesia, or Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or Iraq, or Cuba? - It's called Marxism.

38 posted on 09/18/2005 8:19:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: mcg2000
I'd never step on that logic - swipe away! lol

Now, I'm all embarrassed. I forget that men don't always see "logic" the same way women do. LOL!

39 posted on 09/18/2005 9:27:41 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: Trinity5

I seriously doubt any of their factories in Australia send Vegimite over here... Nor would you want it....


40 posted on 09/19/2005 12:24:31 AM PDT by Schwaeky (The Republic, will be reorganized into the first American EMPIRE, for a safe and secure society!)
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