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More women are asking for prenups
Sun Sentinel ^ | September 18, 2005 | Georgia East

Posted on 09/18/2005 3:05:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob

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By all means, if you believe the person you have chosen for a lifetime partnership is a lying, cheating, greedy skank-a-lank then get that dotted line signed.

Just kidding. I do mourn the moral and cultural breakdown that has reduced "Holy Matrimony" to a business transaction. And yet seriously, I don't blame many of these people.

It's a sad fact that the societal morality has degraded and destroyed the significance of marriage to the point where the social perspective of divorce bears no more stigma than a trip to the ATM. And since many divorces end up being a trip to the ATM for one or the other party, a prenuptual agreement is a wise approach if you have any lingering doubts.

Yet my thoughts would be that if you have any doubts, why bother getting married at all?

Let's face it, unless you AND your mate are strongly ground in morality, more than likely derived from a lifetime of faith, you are fodder for divorce lawyers.

Otherwise marriage is a temporary state that endures until one or the other partner decides they like the Lexus more than their partner.

I'm not being dour, just practical.

On the other hand, there is a place for non conditional marriage in this world. I hope that many who read this are part of such a relationship and pray that the others who hope to enjoy such one day.

Anyway, so what do y'all think? Have at it...

1 posted on 09/18/2005 3:05:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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"It's not that I plan to get divorced," says Kaplan, 23,

That's exactly what your doing, you little harpy.

2 posted on 09/18/2005 3:16:08 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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That's exactly what your doing, you little harpy.

LOL! Nearly word for word I had the same thought.

3 posted on 09/18/2005 3:17:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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My only question is how to breach the subject of a prenup to your SigOther without having a plate of fettucine alfredo smeared on your face? Or, even worse (far worse), heart-wrenching sobs accompanied by 'why don't you trust me!'


4 posted on 09/18/2005 3:19:10 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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She wanted to protect her inheritance for her child. If this was a first marriage, I would agree, but with a second marriage you do owe something to protect and provide for your child, just in case you were blinded by lust, oops, I mean love.

They could also be protected by your will, but...


5 posted on 09/18/2005 3:27:57 AM PDT by KeyWest
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sign ..............


6 posted on 09/18/2005 3:35:16 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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If you're looking for outs before you make the commitment, what's the point? You're simply preparing for failure. Not many succeed while preparing for failure...


7 posted on 09/18/2005 3:37:01 AM PDT by DB ()
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My wife and I were gonna have a prenup but we couldn't agree on who got the tent and who got the VW sans floor so we just said the hell with it.


8 posted on 09/18/2005 3:38:13 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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Over a casual dinner, Rachel Kaplan turned to her boyfriend and asked, "You're open for a prenup, right?"

Darren Waldohlz, 38, a partner in a successful speed-dating business, admits he was caught off guard. But he said he realized a prenuptial agreement would protect the house he owns, too.

"It's not that I plan to get divorced," says Kaplan, 23, a single mom from Fort Lauderdale, who has a sizable inheritance. "I have to protect myself and my daughter."

In other words,

" I want him to support me and my child until my inheritance comes in, but then he gets nothing when I make my escape."

9 posted on 09/18/2005 3:39:07 AM PDT by Bon mots
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We've gotta change the marriage vows.

"I _____ take you ______ to be my lawful wedded ______, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, until we are parted by death. This is my solemn vow."

Change to:

"I vow that I'll stay until I don't."


It'll shorten the ceremonies.


10 posted on 09/18/2005 3:41:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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greedy skank-a-lank

LOL, I'm guessing John sKerry had to sign one.

11 posted on 09/18/2005 3:42:35 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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the tent...the VW sans floor

Ah, the good old days...

12 posted on 09/18/2005 3:44:30 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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Yet my thoughts would be that if you have any doubts, why bother getting married at all?

People do change, and during the courtship period most are putting on their best face. After marriage is when we really get to know the person.
13 posted on 09/18/2005 3:48:15 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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I do mourn the moral and cultural breakdown that has reduced "Holy Matrimony" to a business transaction.

Marriage has a long history of being just a business transaction. Marrying for love is a very recent phenomenon (maybe the last couple of centuries).

14 posted on 09/18/2005 3:52:02 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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For most men getting prenups is the fact that in todays world the family court system is heavily stacked in favor for the women, and stacked heavily against men ( who usually get hammered financially in court ) with no thanks to the feminist.
A better way to stop this moral decline and madness is to get rid of NO FAULT DIVORCE.

I know a couple who were married for 25 years, and he was wealthy BEFORE her meet her.

At the end of the marriage, she decided that she " DIDN'T LOVE HIM ANYMORE " but, even in the face of the fact she didn't love him anymore, she wanted his wealth and got half of everything he owned, and that's not right.

She only loved the money and wealth he had, and he had no indication that she was this way or would do this to him years before hand, so ? I don't blame a man who would want to protect his wealth.

People can change over the years, and in most cases, you have no way what they might or might not do, or what is in their heart or motives.

It is not true that you can tell all the time if someone is going to lie, steal, cheat, deceive you, and get over on you, in some cases, you JUST DON"T KNOW.

Some people can be honest, or truthful in the beginning of a marriage, but, at some point can change on you, and you must take measures to protect yourself financially from someone who is out to get every dime out of you by deceitfulness or lying.
That is why we need to get rid of no fault divorce.
15 posted on 09/18/2005 3:52:57 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Exactly. When my wife and I were first married, neither of us had squat. Everything we've got now, we've gotten together.


16 posted on 09/18/2005 3:53:30 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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Back in the day, it used to be common practice that the guy hand over his nups (or at least have them taken) on their wedding day. Now she wants prenups? This maybe going too far...


17 posted on 09/18/2005 3:53:45 AM PDT by Libloather (Hillary, be a doll and give me back my FBI file...)
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Yep, to many found out the hard way. Plus pren-ups also protect businesses to stay intact, which I am sure the employees appreciate! How many businesses have been ruined and liquidated just to pay the ex?


18 posted on 09/18/2005 3:55:30 AM PDT by neb52
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To: Bon mots
BINGO !!
19 posted on 09/18/2005 3:59:30 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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Until they get rid of no fault divorce, prenups for men should be the mainstay and law of the land for men to protect what ever wealth he may have built up BEFORE he meet his wife.
20 posted on 09/18/2005 4:01:23 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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