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EXIT POLLS: Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats fail to secure a ruling majority in Germany
BBC NEWS ^

Posted on 09/18/2005 11:10:07 AM PDT by HHKrepublican

Germany's centre-right Christian Democrats, led by Angela Merkel, have failed to win a governing majority in Sunday's election, exit polls suggest.

They indicate that the Christian Democrats will be the largest party in what is likely to be a hung parliament.

Ms Merkel - who wants to introduce far-reaching reforms to revive a flagging economy - said she had a "clear mandate" to govern.

But she could be forced into a grand coalition with the Social Democrats.

Germany's ARD television puts with Christian Democrats in the lead with 36% of the vote - much worse than expected.

Their preferred coalition partner, the pro-business Free Democrats, did well with 10%, according to unofficial exit polls - but apparently not enough to secure a joint majority.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: exitpolls; germanelection; germany; liberalbias; mediabias; merkel; pollsschmolls; schroeder
Lets hope the same guys who did the US exit polls are doing these ones!
1 posted on 09/18/2005 11:10:08 AM PDT by HHKrepublican
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To: HHKrepublican

EXIT POLLS: Kerry Creams Bush!


2 posted on 09/18/2005 11:12:15 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
LOL!! Lets hope its a repeat!
3 posted on 09/18/2005 11:14:08 AM PDT by HHKrepublican
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To: HHKrepublican
I think that what was being discussed on other "Merkel" threads will probably hold true.
That is, that nothing much will change in Germany, but the coalitions will probably try to make enough reforms to stay competitive in the world, NOT give the Germans too much of a BITTER $$$$$ pill to swallow, deal with the unemployment in the worst areas and reform their welfare and unemployment laws A BIT.

Nothing drastic but attempts to move forward -- or at lease not slide backwards.

4 posted on 09/18/2005 11:14:09 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: HHKrepublican

hope so too.

if not, I predict she's going to have a really terrible job trying to get any of her policies pushed with the social dems obstructing on every issue.


5 posted on 09/18/2005 11:15:32 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: HHKrepublican
Germany's ARD television puts with Christian Democrats in the lead with 36% of the vote - much worse than expected

I wonder if this ARD is Germany's eqivalent of CBS?

6 posted on 09/18/2005 11:15:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: starfish923
A status quo is a defeat for Germany. Voters have said NO to the major parties on radical reform. Maybe there will be an act of statesmanship between the CDU/CSU and the SPD but I doubt it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
7 posted on 09/18/2005 11:16:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: HHKrepublican

CD got the most votes, but lost!
That's all BBC wants you to take away from this article.


8 posted on 09/18/2005 11:16:29 AM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: Paleo Conservative

But now they're projections, not polls...


9 posted on 09/18/2005 11:16:33 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: HHKrepublican
With her conservatives the top vote-getters, Merkel, who grew up in the ex-communist east, seems likely to replace Schroeder, who has ruled Germany for seven years, to become Germany's first female chancellor.

But the results will be a huge disappointment for her and the CDU. Without enough support to govern with the FDP, she will most likely be forced to share power with Schroeder's SPD in Germany's first "grand coalition" since the 1960s.

It is a grouping markets fear would doom her plans to push through aggressive reforms of Germany's labor market and tax system, but one which up to a third of Germans say they favor.

"We had hoped for a better result," Merkel said, conceding her preferred alliance of CDU/CSU and FDP did not appear to have a majority. "It is our duty to form a stable government."

A provisional official result was not likely to be published until after midnight local time (2200 GMT), although German television stations were progressively updating projections of the outcome.

Yahoo! news

10 posted on 09/18/2005 11:21:30 AM PDT by TaxRelief (follow the money...)
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To: HHKrepublican
Oh, my. Socialist Schroeder may lose.....and socialist Chirac had a stroke.....and socialist Blair is a good guy....and all the other socialist Euroweenie socialists are small potatoes.

In the immortal words of Richard Nixon, who will be left over there to push around any more?

Socialist Madonna of the Scottish Manor Born, I guess.

Leni

12 posted on 09/18/2005 11:25:51 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Paleo Conservative
German Exit Poller:


13 posted on 09/18/2005 11:27:20 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: MinuteGal
I don't think that Blair can still be called a socialist. His patriotism has moved him closer to the center.
14 posted on 09/18/2005 11:31:05 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: HHKrepublican

Who cares about exit polls! Only the real results matter!


15 posted on 09/18/2005 11:38:48 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: MinuteGal

You forgot one socialist (more of an kleptocrat though)...Paul Martin (Canada), but he might lose!


16 posted on 09/18/2005 11:40:20 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: ncountylee
er.....I don't think so.

Patriotism and Economic Ideology = Apples and Oranges.

17 posted on 09/18/2005 11:47:26 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: HHKrepublican

Wasn't the NAZY party also the SOCIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY? No wonder the DNC loves them so!


18 posted on 09/18/2005 12:26:29 PM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: hombre_sincero

NAZY = NAZI (for the fr spelling nazis here)


19 posted on 09/18/2005 12:27:12 PM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: hombre_sincero

>Wasn't the NAZY party also the SOCIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY? <

No, totally wrong. Try doing some serious reading.


20 posted on 09/18/2005 12:51:35 PM PDT by ukman
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To: Paleo Conservative

The smart thing would be to let Schroeder lead. Making a deal with the devil seldom works.


21 posted on 09/18/2005 1:29:33 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: hombre_sincero

National Socialist Party is the correct translation, I believe.


22 posted on 09/18/2005 1:29:50 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Brilliant

I was about to post the same thing, but was waiting for a German to put that disaster in writing.

I would refuse to have anything to do with Schroeder's party.

Let them sink further into Hell all by themselves.


23 posted on 09/18/2005 1:31:48 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: hombre_sincero

The Nazi Party's full name was National Socialist German Worker's Party. In German, it was roughly Nationale Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei. The abbreviation was NSDAP. The nickname Nazi came from the first two words of the official name. You'll notice that socialist was there but Democratic wasn't.


24 posted on 09/18/2005 1:35:26 PM PDT by LenS
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To: HHKrepublican

The idea of an exit poll doesn't compute. If the ballot is secret, why should a voter exiting the polling place tell the news media who he or she voted for?????


25 posted on 09/18/2005 1:42:27 PM PDT by RoadTest (The Bible Says It All.)
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To: HHKrepublican

The idea of an exit poll doesn't compute. If the ballot is secret, why should a voter exiting the polling place tell the news media who he or she voted for?????


26 posted on 09/18/2005 1:42:28 PM PDT by RoadTest (The Bible Says It All.)
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To: LenS

THAT's where my poor brain merged the two! I kept reading about the Social Democrat PArty and the next part I read was something about Hitler adding in the "Nationalist" into the title - but further reading stated he hated socialists especially anything liberally sexual in nature which I assume from that statement the two went hand in hand (no pun intended).

I also read in there somewhere the SOcial Democrat Party being the Capitalist Fascists - but that could have also been the web site I read it from.

That's ok - Hitler and Nazi Germany have no real interest to me except we lost about 1/3 of our entire family to Hitler's troops in the Serbia - Jugoslavia area in WWII - my family was hiding American air crews and helping them escape.

How many clinton and gen clark murdered I still don't know.


27 posted on 09/18/2005 1:45:31 PM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: HHKrepublican

"During his seven-year stint, Germany's jobless total has risen above five million, and remains at more than 11%, she said."

If the CDU cannot form a governing coalition with their fellow conservatives, it might be better to sit things out entirely, and let the Social Democrats, greens, and other lefties run the country for another few years or so. By then, things will be bad enough for CDU victory and they can really straighten things out.


28 posted on 09/18/2005 2:21:43 PM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: HHKrepublican

It's the BBC, after all. Tony Blair doesn't trust the BBC.


29 posted on 09/18/2005 3:00:14 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: HHKrepublican
The DNC and the BBC have more faith in exit polls, than legitimate ballots....

F'em both....

Semper Fi
30 posted on 09/18/2005 4:39:42 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: hombre_sincero

Thank you - for their courage and their sacrifices in the face of true "Nazi" horrors.


31 posted on 09/18/2005 6:12:57 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: hombre_sincero

National Socialist German Workers Party!


32 posted on 09/18/2005 6:21:14 PM PDT by RWCon
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To: HHKrepublican

What about the party from Bavaria? Is this the Free
Democrats/


33 posted on 09/18/2005 6:23:27 PM PDT by RWCon
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To: RWCon

the CSU is the Bavarian party. it is the equivalent of the CDU.


34 posted on 09/18/2005 6:54:10 PM PDT by NYURepublican
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To: RWCon

Heck with it - I can't keep track of all the socialist / democrat/ etc etc parties - the communist say they are democratic by their definition - you can't have socialism or communism without democracy - which is true ...

So WHY does the RNC ALWAYS use the word democracy when describing the USA?

Think about that!


35 posted on 09/18/2005 7:08:14 PM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: HHKrepublican

Long weeks of negotiations await... I am well-informed about the German political panorama and I have no idea which government will emerge.


36 posted on 09/18/2005 7:14:46 PM PDT by Kurt_D
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To: hombre_sincero

Because we were using that word and that political system for a hundred years before communism or Socialism even existed.

Think about that.


37 posted on 09/19/2005 5:16:35 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
We were NEVER a "democracy" - The United States of America - a REPUBLIC!

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

Democracy is the most vile form of government...
democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention ... have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property ... and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths." - James Madison


This is why the socialist/communist left is winning in the USA --- not even "repub;icans" know what the word REPUBLIC means anymore!

The Dumbing Down of American Children -- the plan is succeeding beyond their highest hopes!

"Democracy is the road to Socialism." - Karl Marx

"Democracy is indispensable to socialism." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party

38 posted on 09/19/2005 5:52:42 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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