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To: snarks_when_bored

"A law of nature can't be disobeyed. The law describes what happens and, ideally, makes predictions about what will happen (if certain conditions hold). "

Nature and evolution are not synonymous, even though that is what evolutionists claim.

"Evolution describes how organic beings on Earth have developed and are developing, a process likely to continue happening unless we develop the means to interfere with it in a decisive way (we've already done so to some extent, of course, through plant and animal husbandry, etc.)."

Well you are partially correct here that evolution is man's work. Evolution does far more than describe how organic beings on earth have developed and are developing. Evolution, man's creation, elevates some men as being more equal than the rest of man. Thus the need for things like entitlement programs, cause not all are of the fittest.

Problem is evolutionists set themselves above reproach and bring out their huge ignorant stick to any and all who disagree. Seems like I remember another system who dealt with the inferiority members of society branding those as mentally deficient.


69 posted on 09/19/2005 6:43:32 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Evolution, man's creation, elevates some men as being more equal than the rest of man. Thus the need for things like entitlement programs, cause not all are of the fittest.

I prefer not to mix politics and science. There's nothing in evolutionary science that implies that some men are more equal than others (I'm not sure what that even means).

Problem is evolutionists set themselves above reproach and bring out their huge ignorant stick to any and all who disagree. Seems like I remember another system who dealt with the inferiority members of society branding those as mentally deficient.

You won't find any such attitude from me. If I thought evolution wasn't a fact, I'd say so. And I don't draw any conclusions from the fact of evolution about how the weak among us should be treated. We're products of evolution, but choosing what kind of people we want to be turns out to be one of the things that we've developed the ability to do.

74 posted on 09/19/2005 6:57:27 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Just mythoughts
Nature and evolution are not synonymous, even though that is what evolutionists claim.

Can you show me where any evolutionist on any thread ever has suggested that evolution and nature are synonyms? I've never seen it. I have seen many people suggest that evolution is one of the laws of nature, bit that is a very different point than the one you make.

76 posted on 09/19/2005 7:03:42 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Just mythoughts

"Evolution, man's creation, elevates some men as being more equal than the rest of man. Thus the need for things like entitlement programs, cause not all are of the fittest."

Not even close. Are you going to deny that all people are different, unique individuals? Only the egalitarians (left and right) want to spread the lie that we are all equal. We are demonstrably NOT. This is a fact.

The reason we have entitlement programs is because the egalitarians believe that WE ARE all equal, but that the rich, the *winners of life's lottery* have stolen from the poor. It is a denial of the uniqueness of each individual.
Your desperate attempt to link natural selection with the welfare state is hilarious. If evolutionists were following *the survival of the fittest*, they would be against the welfare state. You have it EXACTLY opposite.

Biology is not a guide for politics.


85 posted on 09/19/2005 7:53:37 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Just mythoughts
Evolution, man's creation, elevates some men as being more equal than the rest of man. Thus the need for things like entitlement programs, cause not all are of the fittest.

Of all the things I've read on these threads, this is the funniest. Darwin causes human inequality and inequality causes welfare. The Onion couldn't do better.

114 posted on 09/19/2005 9:54:00 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Problem is evolutionists set themselves above reproach and bring out their huge ignorant stick to any and all who disagree.

Problem is, most anti-evolutionists actually are ignorant on the issue.

And those that aren't ignorant have all the hallmarks of charlatans making a living off the ignorant anti-evolutionists.

It is a very good business after all. Lots of ignorant people out there are willing to give money to charlatans that give the veneer of respectability to their uninformed world view.

131 posted on 09/19/2005 10:19:39 AM PDT by narby
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To: Just mythoughts
"Well you are partially correct here that evolution is man's work. Evolution does far more than describe how organic beings on earth have developed and are developing. Evolution, man's creation, elevates some men as being more equal than the rest of man. Thus the need for things like entitlement programs, cause not all are of the fittest.

What the heck are you talking about?

There is a difference between evolution, which is an observed part of nature, and the theory of evolution which is a human developed explanation for how the observed evolution works. If anything the theory of evolution shows the objective equality of arbitrary subgroups of humans.

138 posted on 09/19/2005 10:42:51 AM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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