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Pope bans homosexuals from ordination as priests
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 19, 2005

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:11:33 PM PDT by scripter

Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests, reports Catholic World News.

The policy statement is a direct result of the pope's concern about the pedophilia scandal in the church – especially in the U.S.

The new document, prepared by the Congregation for Catholic Education in response to a request made by the late Pope John Paul II in 1994, will be published soon. It will take the form of an "Instruction," signed by the prefect and secretary of the congregation: Cardinal Zenon Grocholewski and Archbishop Michael Miller, according to the report.

The report was first referenced on Joseph Farah's nationally syndicated radio program last week by Raymond Arroyo, author of the new book "Mother Angelica: The Remarkable Story of a Nun, Her Nerve and a Network of Miracles." Arroyo has covered the papacy more than any other journalist

The text, approved by Benedict at the end of August, says that homosexual men should not be admitted to seminaries even if they are celibate, because their condition suggests a serious personality disorder that detracts from their ability to serve as ministers, says the CWN report.

Priests who have already been ordained, if they suffer from homosexual impulses, are strongly urged to renew their dedication to chastity and a manner of life appropriate to the priesthood.

The "Instruction" does not represent a change in church teaching or policy, according to the Vatican.

Catholic leaders have consistently taught that homosexual men should not be ordained to the priesthood. Pope John XXIII approved a formal policy to that effect, which still remains in effect. However, during the 1970s and 1980s, that policy was widely ignored, particularly in North America.

The Congregation for Catholic Education prepared the "Instruction" after soliciting advice from all of the world's bishops, from psychologists and from moral theologians. A draft was then circulated among the Vatican dicasteries concerned with the issue, notably including the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The pending release of the "Instruction," in the face of certain criticism from liberal forces in America and Western Europe, demonstrates the determination of the Vatican to improve the quality of priestly ministry and to protect the church from some of the scandals that have recently shaken the Catholic community – and no doubt deterred many men from entering priestly training.

Informed sources in Rome indicate that the "Instruction" probably will be made public after the Synod of Bishops, which meets in Rome Oct. 2 through 23.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cnim; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; popebenedict; vatican
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1 posted on 09/19/2005 4:11:34 PM PDT by scripter
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To: little jeremiah; NYer

Ping - didn't see this previously posted.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 4:12:15 PM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: scripter

Nice. Makes plenty of sense. Go form your own 2% of the populace church.


5 posted on 09/19/2005 4:13:30 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: scripter

A group of Gay Ninjas from Provincetown have already been dispatched to Rome (they wear pink masks)...


6 posted on 09/19/2005 4:14:03 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Steven W.

loser


7 posted on 09/19/2005 4:14:52 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: scripter

so all the current ones are grandfathered in?


8 posted on 09/19/2005 4:14:59 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: Steven W.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about or are you simply a Catholic hater?


10 posted on 09/19/2005 4:15:52 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

He is a talibornagain moron


11 posted on 09/19/2005 4:16:52 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: scripter

"Pope bans homosexuals...."


Gee, ya think this maybe shouldn't even have to be an issue anymore.


Next thing you know they are going to ban pedophilia too.

Yet another thing they shouldn't even HAVE to address.


12 posted on 09/19/2005 4:16:52 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: scripter

Surprising he had to literaly state that. You would think the religion already assumed that before becoming a Priest.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 4:16:55 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: scripter

ACLU will love this..


14 posted on 09/19/2005 4:17:03 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Steven W.

You watch too much tv. Read a book now and again.


15 posted on 09/19/2005 4:17:28 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: scripter

It's good to see a little common sense and moral clarity in the Church leadership......


16 posted on 09/19/2005 4:17:29 PM PDT by Jorge (Q)
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To: scripter
Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests...

Better late than never!

17 posted on 09/19/2005 4:17:45 PM PDT by MarineBrat (When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
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To: Steven W.
"now if he'd only establish policies eliminating their satanic rituals & other practices ... but then he wouldn't be "pope" ;("

What satanic rituals and practices are you referring to?
18 posted on 09/19/2005 4:18:02 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: scripter
I thought most Pedophiles were not gay. Well what do you know.

/Sarcasm off

19 posted on 09/19/2005 4:18:14 PM PDT by bubman
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To: scripter
. . . that policy was widely ignored, particularly in North America.

There was a lot of that going around.

21 posted on 09/19/2005 4:18:55 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: scripter
Just saw that somebody pinged me here: POPE APPROVES BARRING GAY SEMINARIANS
22 posted on 09/19/2005 4:19:02 PM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: scripter
"Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests, reports Catholic World News."

So is he also going to expel the thousands that have already been ordained?

23 posted on 09/19/2005 4:19:25 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Steven W.
now if he'd only establish policies eliminating their satanic rituals & other practices

Doesn't look like the pope to me. What satanic rituals does he perform?

Reading Harry Potter?

24 posted on 09/19/2005 4:20:41 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: scripter

Now this is progress.


25 posted on 09/19/2005 4:23:04 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: scripter

Good start. Now to go back and find the hetero's who were hounded out of the seminaries over the years.


26 posted on 09/19/2005 4:23:41 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)
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To: William Creel

"AMEN! No more pedophilia!"

Uh, dude...

While there is some overlap, pedophiles are not the same group as gays. One can have pedophiles who go for kids of the same sex, and ones that go for the opposite sex. Pedophiles may be men or women.


27 posted on 09/19/2005 4:24:34 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: scripter

I seem to remember Pope Pius XII having done the same thing. So which bishops keep ordaining these faggots?


28 posted on 09/19/2005 4:24:37 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: scripter
The Catholic Church allowed gays to become priests back in the liberal 1970's and paid a devastating price 20-30 years later. Well that era is all over.

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God's Rottweiler (Pope Benedict 6th) did exactly what was needed.


29 posted on 09/19/2005 4:26:17 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: bubman

you were correct most are not.


30 posted on 09/19/2005 4:26:57 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: Lunkhead_01

see 29


31 posted on 09/19/2005 4:27:18 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: scripter

This doesn't make much sense to me. Priests take a vow of chastity/abstenance. So it doesn't really matter which sex he is sexually attracted to, it's supposed to be hands-off.


32 posted on 09/19/2005 4:28:51 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: William Creel

Maybe no pedophilia involving boys (which has been what made all the news). You'll still have to lock up your girls, AND keep an eye on your sisters, wives, and mothers.

My brother is married to an Irish girl and lives in Ireland. She and her family can't believe how far the pedophilia scandal in the US. She said everyone KNOWS not to leave your kids alone with the priest, especially for overnight visits.


33 posted on 09/19/2005 4:32:45 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: Lorianne
This doesn't make much sense to me. Priests take a vow of chastity/abstenance. So it doesn't really matter which sex he is sexually attracted to, it's supposed to be hands-off.

1) what part of "intrinsically disordered" don't you understand?

2) Priests live (or should live) in community with other men. Such a situation would constitute an occasion of grave sin for those afflicted with the intrinsic disorder of homosexual attraction.

34 posted on 09/19/2005 4:32:48 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: TWohlford

Uh, dude...

80% of the sexual abuse cases were priests abusing teen-age boys...


35 posted on 09/19/2005 4:33:15 PM PDT by CatQuilt (GLSEN is evil)
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To: Lorianne

You must have missed the part where he said that homosexuality is a serious personality disorder which would interfere with their ability to be priests.


36 posted on 09/19/2005 4:33:24 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: scripter
Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests, reports Catholic World News.

Well I'm no Catholic. But even so, this old boy continues to improve his ranking on the list of people I respect.

Kudos Benedict !!

37 posted on 09/19/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (A thousand Bravehearts are better than one)
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To: keithtoo
Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)

You must be a horticulturist.

38 posted on 09/19/2005 4:34:52 PM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: scripter

Has this been reported anywhere other than WND?


39 posted on 09/19/2005 4:35:18 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: TommyDale
So is he also going to expel the thousands that have already been ordained?

Good question. But at least this is a step int he right direction.

40 posted on 09/19/2005 4:35:22 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("Let the wicked man forsake his way and the evil man his thoughts. Let him turn to the Lord" Is 55:7)
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To: bigsigh
you were correct most [pedophiles] are not [homosexuals].

I suspect you are talking about the general population. In that case, it would be astonishing if only 2-3% of the population produced over 51% of the pedophiles. So your statistic is not really meaningful, even if correct.

But in the Catholic Church scandals, well over 90% of the victims were teenage BOYS. There are no female priests. The Church has a homosexual priest problem.

41 posted on 09/19/2005 4:38:37 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: scripter

preaching and practice seem to be two different things.


42 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:20 PM PDT by zipp_city
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To: jigsaw

I just like watching things grow.


43 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:34 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean is a Rove plant, Rove is a NeoCon plant, NeoCons are Trilateralist plants....)
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To: Lorianne
Priests take a vow of chastity/abstenance.

I thought that it was a vow of celibacy. Nuns take a vow of chastity.

44 posted on 09/19/2005 4:40:36 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: scripter
Pope Benedict XVI has given his approval to a new Vatican policy document indicating that men with homosexual tendencies should not be ordained as Catholic priests.

With that policy in place (if it's enforced), there will be a HUGE shortage of new priests!

45 posted on 09/19/2005 4:42:46 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: FormerACLUmember
I would take issue with the verb "allow" in what you wrote in 29. My observation is that the faggots realized they could hide behind the clerical garb and decided to become faux priests hiding the fact that they were queerer than Gore Vidal.
46 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:59 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: thefactor

I wonder about current priests as well. I personally know a man who is homosexual and who became a Jesuit priest two years ago. That is a pretty liberal order from what I understand, and the last I heard from people who have kept in touch with him he was working with AIDS victims in France.


47 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:15 PM PDT by libsl (I'm just sayin'....)
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To: Lunkhead_01
I would take issue with the verb "allow" in what you wrote in 29. My observation is that the faggots realized they could hide behind the clerical garb and decided to become faux priests hiding the fact that they were queerer than Gore Vidal.

I basically agree with you. I think the authorities were negligent however in overlooking (?) these homosexuals entering the priesthood during the liberal 1970's.

This will now end.

48 posted on 09/19/2005 4:47:35 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: pabianice
A group of Gay Ninjas from Provincetown have already been dispatched to Rome (they wear pink masks)...


Gay Ninja?

49 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:32 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (You cannot stop me, I'll just make..........a "move"....)
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To: libsl

this will degenerate into a "don't ask, don't tell" mentality. kinda like right now.


50 posted on 09/19/2005 4:48:47 PM PDT by thefactor
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