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ACLU wants three councils to change prayers
WISTV ^ | 20 Sep 05 | Bryce Mursch

Posted on 09/20/2005 7:09:55 AM PDT by Jay777

(Columbia-AP) September 20, 2005 - The American Civil Liberties Union wants three Upstate governments to stop mentioning Jesus Christ in prayers before council meetings. The ACLU has written Anderson and Seneca city councils and Oconee County Council asking them to follow a federal court ruling.

The Fourth US Circuit Court of Appeals last year upheld a lower court ruling that prayers before Great Falls Town Council were unconstitutional because they honored one faith over another by mentioning Jesus. The US Supreme Court refused to consider the town's appeal.

Mike Cubelo of the ACLU says the organization will sue if necessary.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aclu; bush; conservatism; constitution; crusadesii; cush; liberals; prayers; religion; stopaclu; stoptheaclu; stupid
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To: highlymotivated

If we build the front up, no matter how slow, we can build a support base that can do some damage. We hope to grow to the point we can make some really good marches happen.


21 posted on 09/20/2005 7:28:09 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: boilerfan
"Those who are ashamed of Me, of them will I also be ashamed."
22 posted on 09/20/2005 7:28:37 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Jay777

I didn't know the US Congress passed a law ordering the Anderson and Seneca city councils to mention Jesus in council prayers.

Absolutely nefarious these congresscritters.


23 posted on 09/20/2005 7:29:25 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: Jay777
Just what would happen if the town councils refused to obey the ACLU? The ACLU would sue. What would happen if the Council refused to obey a court order? How many divisions does the court have? If we can have jury nullification, we can have whole towns disobey. That would throw the fascists on the courts into a tizzy.
24 posted on 09/20/2005 7:32:47 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Jay777

"...ACLU wants three councils to change prayers..."

I want the aclu to pucker up and kiss my perpetual vertical smile. They'll know where that is. It looks like the image they see in the mirror.


25 posted on 09/20/2005 7:35:39 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH!)
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To: Jay777

Everyone picks on Christianity and gives other religions a pass.

Kind of makes you wonder if there isn't something to the Christian thing...why else would it be hated so much?

Me thinks they protesteth too much...


26 posted on 09/20/2005 7:36:01 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Brilliant

Just a thought..........how about we get the latest press release from CAIR, about how muslims are discriminated against, looked at wrong, hate speech, etc, etc., then change the wording from muslim to Christian and then file the same charges against the ACLU??
Just a thought.


27 posted on 09/20/2005 7:36:53 AM PDT by newcthem (And Atlas Shrugged.)
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To: Jay777

Their name is really the ANTI-CHRISTIAN LITIGATION UNIT.


28 posted on 09/20/2005 7:37:49 AM PDT by RoadTest (Packaging Is Everything!)
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To: upchuck

ping


29 posted on 09/20/2005 7:38:25 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: fizziwig

fizziwig, you a smart person! Follow your logic.


30 posted on 09/20/2005 7:40:25 AM PDT by RoadTest (Packaging Is Everything!)
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To: Jay777
Depending on state laws, this may be possible:

Put out an RFP (Request For Proposal) for any organization to get a non-monetary contract (maybe avoiding some EO laws since there's no money in it) to perform prayers. Local preachers will create such an organization and bid. Select them. The council is not giving the prayers, and anyone who wants to give prayers (say, a satanist) has to join the contracted organization, and will be refused.

By depending on state laws, I meant it won't work if the law says all contractors must do EO. But if the law says no state money will go to to anyone not doing EO, it may work.

31 posted on 09/20/2005 7:43:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: RoadTest

"fizziwig, you a smart person! Follow your logic."

I already have....it was tongue and cheek....I am already a Christian.....one of those ones dragged into it kicking and screaming...


32 posted on 09/20/2005 7:43:55 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Jay777

This is absurd. They're also suing the Speaker of the House, personally, for mentioning Jesus in prayer on the House floor.

There have been men and women of every faith who have given the opening prayer in both the House and the Senate. No one religion is excluded.

The ACLU needs to wake up and realize that they are in the heart of the Red States, and none of us are amused by this.

By the way Jay... nice to see some people our age coming around. Keep up the good fight. :)


33 posted on 09/20/2005 7:45:55 AM PDT by GovGirl (Newsweek lied, people died...can we make that into a t-shirt?)
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To: Brilliant

"Do you get the idea that the ACLU is obsessed with its opposition to religion?"

I know, I just can't figure it out. Why do people keep thinking Democrats hate God? Hillary prays too, you know!

Even Howard Dean said they have to take back religion in the Democrat party.

The problem is, all those little people in the red states WILL keep watching what Dems do instead of what they say...


34 posted on 09/20/2005 7:46:53 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Jay777

Whenever I see an ACLU attorney, they usually have disheveled hair, glasses and facial hair. And that's just the women! The men are worse. I'd love to see research done to see where some of these so-called attorneys graduated in their class. If they had any smarts, I'd bet they would be working in a major law firm or corporate law.
Just my opinion.


35 posted on 09/20/2005 7:51:18 AM PDT by twoputt
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To: Jay777

If you ask a minister to pray, then you are the one creating an established religion if you tell him what he is permitted to pray and not permitted to pray.

We have many denominations and religions in America. An adult realizes they are all different.


36 posted on 09/20/2005 7:55:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Jay777

later pingout.


37 posted on 09/20/2005 8:15:02 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Jay777
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We were founded as a Christian nation.
38 posted on 09/20/2005 8:16:00 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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To: Jay777

Let me see if I understand this. Atheists want to be able to tell religious people how to pray. Did I miss something?


39 posted on 09/20/2005 8:21:44 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

how can you say it has gone "from" something rationally good when it's founders were communists attempting to promote communistic ideals?


40 posted on 09/20/2005 8:35:25 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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