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Merchant Turns Tables on Gunman (GA)
WSBTV ^ | September 20, 2005

Posted on 09/20/2005 1:14:58 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

Store Owner Says He Had Been Victimized in the Past

JONESBORO -- A robbery suspect was recovering Tuesday afternoon at a Clayton County hospital after he was shot by a store merchant during a botched hold-up attempt, police said.

Keston Scott, 22, was rushed to Southern Regional Medical Center for treatment after he sought help there for a gunshot wound. Tracye Bryant, a hospital spokeswoman, said the man's wounds were not believed to be life-threatening.

Police said they planned to charge him with armed robbery and aggravated assault in connection with the incident, which occurred shortly after 9 a.m.

John Butts, the owner of John's Discount Store, which is located in the 200 block of North Main Street, said he shot the man with his .357 magnum gun after the suspect walked into his store with a gun and demanded money.

"He tried to shoot me first but I pulled my gun and shot him," said Butts, adding that he fired three times at the suspect. "You have to work if you need money, just like me. I work 16 and 17 hours every day seven days."

Butts said after he shot the suspect the man ran out of the store and crawled into a white car, which sped away.

A short time later, a man suffering from gunshot wounds sought medical help at Southern Regional Medical Center.

It was not immediately clear if any customers were in the store at the time of the shooting, which was captured by surveillance cameras posted inside the building.

Police said the owner of the store has not been charged, although the assailant captured on the surveillance tape apparently matches the identity of the man who sought help at the hospital.

"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

Butts said his store has been robbed at least two times in the past. He said he would pull out his gun again if he has to.

"If you do it one time I don't think they will bother you again," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Georgia
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1 posted on 09/20/2005 1:15:02 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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2 posted on 09/20/2005 1:15:32 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
WSB (as usual) can't get their story straight.

Keston Scott, 22, was rushed to Southern Regional Medical Center for treatment after he sought help there for a gunshot wound.

OK, which is it guys? Did he seek help there, or was he rushed there? Looks like if anybody rushed him there it was his accomplice/getaway driver.

And as far as the police sergeant's comments -- he may not want anybody to get hurt, but it's fine with me if the perp gets ventilated whilst the citizen/proprietor escapes unharmed.

3 posted on 09/20/2005 1:17:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

The safest for whom?

4 posted on 09/20/2005 1:18:06 PM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

Pacifist, PC blather! Of course we want someone to get hurt... the bad guy!

Sometimes you need to do the right thing, not the safe thing.

5 posted on 09/20/2005 1:18:28 PM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: Mr. Mojo
during a botched hold-up attempt, police said.

It wasn't botched; it was thwarted.
6 posted on 09/20/2005 1:18:46 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"You have to work if you need money, just like me. I work 16 and 17 hours every day seven days."

Isn't this attitude discriminatory against those members of our society who want to simply sit on their @$$ and watch TV?

7 posted on 09/20/2005 1:20:59 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think Mr. Butts needs shooting lessons. Why was Mr. Scott still alive?


8 posted on 09/20/2005 1:21:32 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Mr. Mojo

3 shots with .357 mag and the perp lived? Lets get some practice here!


9 posted on 09/20/2005 1:23:10 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Folks, news like this brings joy to my heart.


10 posted on 09/20/2005 1:26:09 PM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: Mr. Mojo

Folks, news like this brings joy to my heart.


11 posted on 09/20/2005 1:26:46 PM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: Conspiracy Guy; garyhope

You're right. We need better gun control (our definition, not theirs).


12 posted on 09/20/2005 1:27:03 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

Following this advice, the perp wouldn't be a "would-be" robber, and the store owner might even be dead.

13 posted on 09/20/2005 1:31:17 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"I think Mr. Butts needs shooting lessons. Why was Mr. Scott still alive?"

"Lets get some practice here!"

Before we go casting aspersions on the marksmanship of Mr. Butts, it needs to be stated that he could be an excellent shot with poor bullet selection. There is inadequate information in the article to know for sure.

Moreover, there IS enough information to indicate that Mr. Butt's shooting was good enough.

14 posted on 09/20/2005 1:31:27 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

That's right, we don't want any criminals to get hurt by armed victims.

I hate it when idiot cops spew this crap.

15 posted on 09/20/2005 1:31:57 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: wolfpat

Even on a quick draw rapid fire at least 2 rounds should have been in the chest. Maybe he was a little nervous. At least he stopped the turd from robbing him. So I give him 3 of 5 stars.


16 posted on 09/20/2005 1:32:11 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I give him a passing grade on #14.


17 posted on 09/20/2005 1:33:21 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Three shots with a .357 and the perp lived? The store owner needs to go to the range and practive at the seven yard line.


18 posted on 09/20/2005 1:34:39 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Joe 6-pack

Make that #16. I raise it to 4 of 5 stars due to my inaccuracy.


19 posted on 09/20/2005 1:34:55 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

It's getting so bad that an honest thief can't make a living anymore. /sarcasm


20 posted on 09/20/2005 1:35:21 PM PDT by ol' hoghead (never, ever go to "FREECREDITREPORT.COM. Trust me on this.)
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To: andyk

well said.


21 posted on 09/20/2005 1:35:22 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
"I give him a passing grade on #14."

As far as I'm concerned, it's a "Go / No-Go" kind of test. He got a "Go."

22 posted on 09/20/2005 1:35:45 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

Pshaw!

23 posted on 09/20/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by eyespysomething ("The Constitution is the court's taskmaster and it's Congress' taskmaster as well" John G. Roberts)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

I thought the last day that could be said seriously was 9/10/2001.

24 posted on 09/20/2005 1:37:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theater with the Constitution)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I don't encourage anyone to confront a would-be robber," said police Sgt. Wayne Woods. "The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

"Sergeant" Wayne Woods is an idiot.

25 posted on 09/20/2005 1:37:06 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

He stopped the lowlife but a live perp is a suing perp. Even in Georgia the shooter faces potential crap here.


26 posted on 09/20/2005 1:38:15 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I have to give him a 4.999999999998 on the 5-star report. Only reason he didn't get a five of 5, 'cause the perp is still breathin' oxygen. I hope that crook walks with a limp the rest of his life too, trying to rob that man and get his money!! The nerve of that cretin!


27 posted on 09/20/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

if he gets sued by the perp for "career-ending injury" will you maintain that his shooting was good enough.

dead perps don't heal and perp again.
dead perps don't heal and sue.
dead perps don't cost as much to process as live ones.
dead perps take up less space in a potter's field than live ones do in jails.

dead perp is better.


28 posted on 09/20/2005 1:38:57 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Mr. Mojo
""The safest thing normally is to comply with their wishes because we don't want anyone hurt."

Damn! My BS meter just blew up.

Government wants to be everywhere, but they can't (nor should they be) be everywhere so it is up to us to rid the gene pool of this pond scum.

29 posted on 09/20/2005 1:39:19 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Even in Georgia the shooter faces potential crap here.

Looks like the Georgia legislature has a bit of work to do.

30 posted on 09/20/2005 1:39:27 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

you beat me to it, I see.


31 posted on 09/20/2005 1:39:31 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Conspiracy Guy

if we could export Atlanta up North where it belongs, we'd have no problem fixing the law.


32 posted on 09/20/2005 1:40:44 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The perp is alive. Meaning the guy missed?


33 posted on 09/20/2005 1:41:42 PM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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To: King Prout; Conspiracy Guy
Should he have gone and shot the guy's family, too since they'd have sued him if the perp had been killed?

The court business is a test for lawyers. Butts' test took place in defending his property and life which he did with a 100% score.

34 posted on 09/20/2005 1:42:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: eyespysomething

Give the guy some credit people! He may have been on the move, trying to get of of the perp's aim.


35 posted on 09/20/2005 1:42:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Conspiracy Guy

The problem is that by leaving the perp alive, the merchant leaves himself open to a lawsuit from that POS. Other criminals have won such suits. If the criminal is alive, it's your word against his. If he's dead, it's your word.


36 posted on 09/20/2005 1:42:19 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: geezerwheezer

He was armed 1 star
He drew and fired 2 stars
He stopped the turd 3 stars
He wasn't harmed 4 stars

The 5th star requires dead perp


37 posted on 09/20/2005 1:42:24 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: wolfpat

You're right. We need better gun control (our definition, not theirs).

both hands on gun
focus on front site
squeeze trigger, do not jerk
make sure you have clear site picture before taking second shot. it is better to hit accurately with 2 slow shots than miss or make contact with 4 poorly placed shots.

that kind of gun control, right?


38 posted on 09/20/2005 1:43:23 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: ArrogantBustard

Much of the old south is infested with both yankee infiltrators and southern liberals of all ilk. Look at Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, AL. Such a low life and he is not alone.


39 posted on 09/20/2005 1:45:14 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Hey CC,
The bottom line is, kill or be killed. The Police Sergeant needs a boot up his P.C. ass for making those pacifist comments.

I wish the perp had died, one less POS to house in prison and later convert to islam.

Have Glock Will Travel,
NSNR-CSAOT


40 posted on 09/20/2005 1:45:40 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: King Prout

Sorry. I'll go slower next time. Right now I'm having to debate.


41 posted on 09/20/2005 1:45:52 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: King Prout

True


42 posted on 09/20/2005 1:46:11 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I'd give him a B+ (89%)

Only "dead perp" scores an A in my classroom :)


43 posted on 09/20/2005 1:46:49 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Police said the owner of the store has not been charged, although the assailant captured on the surveillance tape apparently matches the identity of the man who sought help at the hospital.

Huh?!?!

44 posted on 09/20/2005 1:47:21 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Joe 6-pack

Leapfrog logic does not apply.


45 posted on 09/20/2005 1:47:22 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: wolfpat

Exactly but some people don't see it.


46 posted on 09/20/2005 1:48:36 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I don't grade on a curve.


47 posted on 09/20/2005 1:49:28 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I forgot to mention the police sergeant's comments. The sergeant has to be a complete buffoon, as downtown Jonesboro, Georgia is a crime scene waiting to happen, and if that idiot cop doesn't know that, then maybe he should remove his head from up in his a** and look around. The whole Clayton County area has gone to hell in the last ten years with the urban sprawl of Atlanta spilling out the crime, drugs, gang shootings,etc. to areas like Jonesboro.I'm from that area, and unfortunately, the policeman is indicitive of the stupidity the elected officials have there. Just look at the Clayton County Sheriff's office. They have a new sheriff who makes Louis Farrakan look sane! Starting to see the problems here? If I still lived there, I'd have a cannon, not a .357 Magnum!


48 posted on 09/20/2005 1:49:39 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: absolootezer0
both hands on gun
focus on front site
squeeze trigger, do not jerk
make sure you have clear site picture before taking second shot. it is better to hit accurately with 2 slow shots than miss or make contact with 4 poorly placed shots.

that kind of gun control, right?


Absolootly!
49 posted on 09/20/2005 1:49:43 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus.)
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To: King Prout
"I'd give him a B+ (89%)"

I grade such matters on a "Pass - Fail" scale. The law suit stuff is a concern, but if not the dirt bag, his family would be coming after him...probably for funeral expenses...

50 posted on 09/20/2005 1:49:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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