Darwin Goes to Church

Washington Post ^ | 9/18/2005 | Rev. Henry G. Brinton

[Pessimist]

People like you give us all a bad name.

[narby]

And the stakes are high: Members have left my church over the evolution issue because they object to some church leaders' acceptance of a theory that is not Bible-based teaching; a local professor has been barred from teaching a cell biology class at George Mason University because of controversy over her beliefs; and religious leaders across the country are now seeing this as a defining issue in the culture wars.

This has been my prediction for churches that preach cultish ideas of literal Genesis accounts like creation and Noah. Many people view such things as if the church were teaching that Santa lives at the North Pole. The best idea is to adopt the Catholic doctrine, that there is no conflict between science and the Bible, and that we just can't explain God's miracles. But if churches can't do that, then their best plan would be to just avoid the subject.

[keithtoo]

Evolution is not improvement?

Then what is meant by the following book title?

Charles Darwin:The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

I hope you know more about Evolutionary theory than your previous posts claims.

[Coyoteman]

First of all, it is a postulation, not a a proven, or even provable belief.

No. It is a theory which accounts for known facts and makes predictions about unknown facts.

Why are you using all of these other terms, like "proven" and "provable" and "belief" when science deals in facts (data), hypotheses, theories, etc.? Have you not read the previous threads on this site, or do you just not believe them?

[keithtoo]

In order for one species to evolve into another there must be intermediate forms between species - that is Evolution's claim. You need to go pick up a burger, fries and some logic yourself.

[narby]

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground

Just exactly HOW did God do this and how patient was He in His work?

I think it took about 3 billion years, from the first cell to man.

God could have plunked the author of Genesis down in front of a 60 inch plasma TV and ran the Discovery Channel documentary on the origin of the earth and man. And the author would have written down "In the beginning...".

[newgeezer]

churches that preach cultish ideas of literal Genesis accounts like creation and Noah.

While you're at it, you might as well dismiss virgin birth and resurrection of the dead as cultish ideas, too.

[narby]

There were witnesses to those events. But no one was around when the earth was formed.

Or hadn't you thought of that?

[curiosity]

What did I do to give you a bad name?

And who is "us"? Do we share membership in some secret society I'm not even aware of?

[Constantine XIII]

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Matthew 5:22

[keithtoo]

There are plenty of former Evolutionists with advanced degrees that have become Creationists or at least believers in a Deity because of the contradictions of Evolution. Here are some: http://www.creationists.org/outstanding.html , but there are many others.

[curiosity]

In order for one species to evolve into another there must be intermediate forms between species - that is Evolution's claim.

Yup. And there are thousands in the fossil record.

[newgeezer]

There were witnesses to those events. But no one was around when the earth was formed. Or hadn't you thought of that?

God was sovereign in every detail of the writing and preservation of His word. It is infallible, not subject to the limitations of human authorship. Or hadn't you thought of that?

[narby]

By the way, you still didn't answer the question about *how* God formed man? How many steps did it take? How much time?

If you're going to buy into a 6 day creation, then lets talk about that right now.

By accepting the myth of a 6 literal day creation, you're also throwing out virtually every discipline in science. Geology. Palaeontology. Physics. Astronomy. The list is long, and the evidence is everywhere in many forms, cross verified in many ways.

Any organization that believes in such a fantasy is a cult no less than the morons who killed themselves because they just *knew* there was a spaceship flying behind the comet.

[curiosity]

5 scientists out of a community of over 50,000. Not very impressive.

[sasportas]

So far on this thread I see Presbyterians in the lead article accomodating evolution. Presbyterians? It figures. And Catholics. It figures. And, of course, the atheists. Liberals all.

[RightWinger]

If creationists are correct, evolutionists will have eternity to reflect upon their miscalculations.

If evolutionists are correct, we will all just cease to exist when we die.

[curiosity]

God was sovereign in every detail of the writing and preservation of His word. It is infallible, not subject to the limitations of human authorship. Or hadn't you thought of that?

How do you now He did not intend those chapters of Genesis to interpreted symbolically? They are written in a poetic style, you know. Often, that's a dead give-away for symbolism in the Bible.

[keithtoo]

The fossil record is a matter or some dispute, but if Evolution is true, you should be able to see them living and breathing everywhere. As a matter of fact, if evolution is logical, there should be more intermediate forms than fully formed species. There should be inumberable stages in the intermediary period between one fully formed species and another.

Yet there are not.

Did Evolution stop recently?

If not, post a few pictures of these living forms please.

[Coyoteman]

So far on this thread I see Presbyterians in the lead article accomodating evolution. Presbyterians? It figures. And Catholics. It figures. And, of course, the atheists. Liberals all.

Hey! No points for the evolutionists? I demand a recount!