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HURRICANE RITA-- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-21-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/21/2005 11:48:48 AM PDT by backhoe

Update: Category 4 Hurricane Rita - Live Thread, Part II  

Hurricane Rita Freeper Sign In Thread

 Rita may be 'national disaster': oil CEO
 
 
 Rita now a Category 3 hurricane
 
 Hurricane Rita Live Thread -- it has actually become rather comical because, in typical style, they ignore facts.
 Case in point: my attempt to educate an acquaintance about the fact that more hurricanes struck the US by decade in the late Nineteenth Century than in recent times. This person acts as if hurricanes were a new phenomenon and happening at a greater rate than ever before. I can understand how someone who doesn't know the facts might fall for the global warming bunk, but you'd think that once you show him the historical records, he'd say, "Hey, you're right. I didn't know that." Forget about it. This person wants to believe what he wants to believe, and any facts that contradict that are ignored. It's pathological.
 3-STAR HONORE' "ARE YOU STUCK ON STUPID"...AUDIO...TOO FUNNY
 
 Coastal TX Evacuation Maps 
 
  News Conference on Hurricane Rita: Lt. Gen. Honore: 'Don't get stuck on stupid, reporter.' (audio) -- I apologize to you, but let's talk about the future. Rita is happening. And right now, we need to get good, clean information out to the people that they can use. And we can have a conversation on the side about the past, in a couple of months.
 
 Way cool video of Rita's development.
 
 Check out this infrared image:

mash this

Notice the line of clouds extending out before the storm? Katrina had the same thing - and it pointed in the direction she ended up going.

 
 http://gom.rigzone.com/rita.asp

Interactive map of oil rigs in path of Rita
 

Oil rigs in the path of Hurricane Rita (map: RigZone.com)

I hope the democrat websites and the MSM don't get a hold of this photo.

 Hurricane Center May Run Out of Names By Ker Than ... Liberals will start naming them, "Bush's Fault"..."Still Bush's Fault"...."Also Bush's Fault"...."You Know What Bush's Fault"...

 Here's Their Chance! -- Let all of the complainers, ie Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Jesse Jackson, and any other of the folks who have blamed the federal government, specifically President Bush and FEMA for the so-called failures in the Katrina effort, do their duty! Each and every one of the dirty bastages should fly into the Texas gulf coast prior to Rita...

 Tropical Storm Rita Live Thread -- The difference in the two news conferences I just heard- Jeb speaking with Floridians and Nagin talking down to...everyone.   Jeb giving information and instilling confidence.  Nagin acting arrogant and wishy-washy (an amazing combination) and giving NO information.

 Interactive map showing evac routes from Houston.
 http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/05/hurricane/index.html
 
 Here's what you need:

Water
a fill bath tub
b fill all large pots
c several dozen cleaned plastic milk carton / change quarterly

Battery operated radio
Battery operated flashlights (1 per person + 1)

Week worth of batteries for above

Fill propane for gas grill

Fill all cars

Sterno cans and fondue pot for cooking

Matches, lighter, lighter fluid

Several rolls of 6 mil plastic sheets 10’ x 100’

5 boxes of 20 each, large garbage sacks

4 pair heavy work gloves

Axe, hatchet, shovel nails, heavy duty staples, staple gun, hammers, saws, chain saw

6 bread baking pans (to make block ice)

4 large ice chests

Hand operated can opener and bottle opener

Bug spray

1 month of all medicine, gauze, band aids, tape, alcohol, OTC headache, antiseptic

Heavy duty knives, 100 each plastic forks, spoons, knives, paper towels, paper plates Toilet Paper!

Soup, Vienna sausage, peanut butter, crackers, chili, bread, several small jelly, mustard, spam, apples, dried fruit, hard candy,

Stove top coffee pot, 10 lbs coffee, sugar, salt, pepper, tea bags

2 12 ga shot guns – 2 boxes of 00; 1 of slugs; bird shot

 Might as well line them up now:

http://www.wxnation.com/houston/


http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tlh/tropical/

Texas Weather Cams:

http://www.weatherimages.org/weathercams/usa.html#TX



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KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanerita; rita; weather
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For background, survival tips, and how the Katrina fiasco went down, look here:
 
 HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links

1 posted on 09/21/2005 11:48:51 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
"....may I inquire discreetly, when are you free to have some (Texas)tea with me"
2 posted on 09/21/2005 11:52:11 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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Dont forget because there is more white people in texas Bush will help quicker.Remember Bush hates all that are not white because he is trying to destroy the others


3 posted on 09/21/2005 11:59:23 AM PDT by stickandpucknut
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To: Vaquero
"....may I inquire discreetly, when are you free to have some (Texas)tea with me"

Any time you can mosey on down to the swamps of coastal Georgia, we'll gather at the BlueBird Cafe' for southern ice tea- the stuff that makes "energy drinks" look whimpy, it has so much caffeine.

Until then, here's a little more:

 'Rita scares us to death' (Stuck on Stupid MSM continues to fan the flames of hysteria)
 
 

UPDATE 1:24 PM CDT: The National Hurricane Center is reporting a central pressure of 920 mb with sustained winds of over 150 mph. Look for Rita to become a Category 5 storm within the next few hours.

 

 http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/images/rita/Rita_0921_1715-thumb.jpg Stingray: Conservative blog

Texas Clearinghouse for Katrina Aid


4 posted on 09/21/2005 12:04:00 PM PDT by backhoe (Reporting from Beautiful Brunswick, Georgia)
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 Here's how its done Mayor Nagin   - I think I'm beginning to sense a pattern here. FL (both this year and last), AL, MS, and TX are all red states which seem to have had far fewer problems than LA, the only blue state in the bunch.

Galveston Independent School District buses carry evacuees off the island on Interstate 45 Wednesday.


5 posted on 09/21/2005 12:19:23 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Latest Recon Indicates Rita is a CAT 5 Hurricane
 

6 posted on 09/21/2005 12:24:23 PM PDT by backhoe
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 http://www.ktrh.com Houston AM radio
http://www.950kprc.com Houston AM radio
http://www.kprc.com Houston TV
http://www.khou.com Houston TV
http://www.ktrk.com Houston TV
 
 Here is the Yahoo! Directory link to some Houston area TV stations. Haven't checked them yet to see which ones have live feeds, but one of them is bound to...

Houston-area TV Stations
 
 A reporter in Galveston just told 540am here in Orlando that the original evacuees from New Orleans DO NO MIND BEING RELOCATED BECAUSE THEY KNOW ARE BEING TAKEN TO SAFETY this time. She also points out that TX evacuees are allowed to take their pets when they evacuate and this is crucial because pets are family members too and some in NO would not leave home without them.

7 posted on 09/21/2005 12:34:05 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thanks for posting this and many other threads like this.

Someone asked on the link you just posted what the record was for barometric pressure. Recorded measurements going back to 1900 below.

http://www.wxresearch.org/family/hurpres.htm

Year Hurricane Pressure
1988 Hurricane Gilbert 26.14 in. 885.2 mb
1935 Florida Keys 26.35 in. 892.3 mb
1980 Hurricane Allen 26.35 in. 899.1 mb
1969 Hurricane Camille 26.84 in. 908.9 mb
1995 Hurricane Opal 27.05 in. 916 mb
1989 Hurricane Hugo 27.11 in. 918 mb
1992 Hurricane Andrew 27.23 in. 922 mb
1919 Texas Hurricane 27.37 in. 926.9 mb
1928 Okeechobee, Fl 27.43 in. 928.9 mb
1960 Hurricane Donna 27.46 in. 929.9 mb
1900 Galveston Hurricane 27.49 in. 930.9 mb
1909 Louisiana Hurricane 27.49 in. 930.9 mb
1915 Louisiana Hurricane 27.49 in. 930.9 mb
1961 Hurricane Carla 27.49 in. 930.9 mb


8 posted on 09/21/2005 12:35:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: backhoe
 

Look what I found:

http://www.usnewslinks.com/tvstations/tx.html

1,548 posted on 09/21/2005 3:33:38 PM EDT by Howlin

9 posted on 09/21/2005 12:35:54 PM PDT by backhoe
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http://newslink.org/txtele.html


10 posted on 09/21/2005 12:36:52 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: NormsRevenge

Good info- thanks!


11 posted on 09/21/2005 12:37:41 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Wow! Concentrated common sense.


12 posted on 09/21/2005 12:56:34 PM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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To: ekwd

Thanks for looking.


13 posted on 09/21/2005 1:07:34 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

It is about 45 miles from Galveston to Houston. It is about
60 miles from Gulfport to Hattiesburg and Hattiesburg took a pounding from Katrina.


14 posted on 09/21/2005 1:09:12 PM PDT by ekwd (Murphy's Law Has Not Been Repealed)
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 A Tale of Two Cities (Buses, Buses We Got Buses)
 Galveston



New Orleans
 
 These two pictures should be used in election campaigns throughout the nation.
 
 

For comparison purposes, the 1:15 pm CDT update had the winds at 150 mph, while the 2:55 pm update kicked it up to 165 mph. There has not been an update on the pressure yet (was at 920 mb at 1:15).

1,702 posted on 09/21/2005 4:08:02 PM EDT by steveegg ($3.00 a gallon is the price you pay for ANWR! Start drilling or stop whining! - HT Falcon4.0)

15 posted on 09/21/2005 1:12:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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The following is copied from another post ( click the "536" link to see it )-- for informational purposes. A hand-cranked radio & light are a good idea, there are several models & prices available; just google it: 

Below is a link to the PERFECT addition to anybody's hurricane survival gear. When the power goes out, and it usually does, there's nothing better than to be able to have a working television to track a storms progress.

The best thing about these are that they have a hand crank generator to save on batteries.

Hmmm link didn't work.

Vector
Tough Brite Storm Tracker
Model VEC135


TV/Radio/Lantern with weather alert radio is rechargeable with the hand crank. Comes with a 5 in. solid state UHF/VHF black and white television. The AM/FM weather band radio has an AUTOMATIC STORM ALERT warning alarm. The 7 channel NOAA weather frequencies warn of dangerous weather conditions and emergency information. Powerful halogen spotlight and a fluorescent tube lantern. The built in hand crank provides backup power for all radio functions and LED area light. Approximately 2 crank minutes provides up to 15 minutes of runtime for the radio or LED light.

• Weatherband stations & AM/FM radio.
• Spotlight & rear LED area light.
• Dynamo Power Crank for emergency use if all batteries fail.
• Corded, cordless, rechargeable, &/or uses batteries.


Store SKU # 327621
Internet # 167236
Catalog # 100093270

Price: $59.99/ea


16 posted on 09/21/2005 1:26:45 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
It was a lyric from a Beatles song..... Lovely Rita meter maid May I inquire discreetly (Lovely Rita) When are you free to take some tea with me? (Lovely Rita, maid, ah) Rita! Took her out and tried to win her Had a laugh and over dinner Told her I would really like to see her again Got the bill and Rita paid it Took her home I nearly made it Sitting on the sofa with a sister or two Oh, lovely Rita meter maid Where would I be without you Give us a wink and make me think of you (Lovely Rita meter maid) Lovely Rita meter maid, Rita meter maid (Lovely Rita meter maid) Oh Lovely Rita meter meter maid (Lovely Rita meter maid) Ah da, ah da (Lovely Rita meter maid)
17 posted on 09/21/2005 1:33:08 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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 FReepers Offering Lodging for Rita Evacuees and/or their Pets, Sign in Here!
 
 DIMS talking points prediction after Rita strikes (Vanity)

18 posted on 09/21/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: All
 
To: BurbankKarl
Cell phones are overwhelmed. Another reason to get your ham radio license!

Bump that. General class here.

1,844 posted on 09/21/2005 4:30:57 PM EDT by Black Tooth
 
 
To: hummingbird

since we are protected, guarded, and totally loved by our two dogs, I am so happy to hear that people are allowed to evacuate with crated pets...

and for you dog people out there, this is a very good reason to get your pets "crate trained"... which isn't at all hard to do. If they love their crates, they will be much happier about the "strangeness" of evacuation.

Best long term way to crate train dogs is to sneak wonderful smelly "treats" in their crate when they aren't looking. They discover all on their own that the crate is the place where mysterious goodies just magically appear.

After that, it is time to give them all of their food in their crates... they see the crate as "the place" to go for food..

After they get used to that, then you can teach the command, "go to your crate", with a extra special treat promptly given. After they get that concept, move the crate to a different location, repeat...

Once they get that "go to your crate" isn't place specific, then you start telling them to go to their crate when strangers come to the door, when you are having dinner, etc... and do not do the tasty treat until they learn to be "quiet" in the crate...

The crate then becomes a "safe place" in their lil doggie heads. Never crate a dog as a punishment. Never crate a dog for long periods of time. Make sure they have a favorite toy, or blanket, in their crate...

Just some suggestions... and make sure you spend money on a crate. The cheaper wire crates will not take a panicky dog with strong jaws. And, I prefer the tougher wire crates, because they have better ventilation in hot temperatures. These can collapse for travel, and can always be covered with a blanket if the dog needs a sense of security...

1,848 posted on 09/21/2005 4:33:01 PM EDT by jacquej

19 posted on 09/21/2005 1:56:14 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part III
 
 Check out this water vapor loop...
I think she isn't done strengthening yet...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-wv-loop.html
 

20 posted on 09/21/2005 4:50:34 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Hurricane RITA Update (pressure hits 898 MB or lower)

21 posted on 09/21/2005 5:01:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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 898 mb per foxnews just now...number 3 of all (recorded) time. oy.  There have been 22 Category 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic since records began in 1886.
 Katrina: Cat 5, 35-Foot Waves
 
 


172 posted on 09/21/2005 8:04:23 PM EDT

22 posted on 09/21/2005 5:11:08 PM PDT by backhoe
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 From the top of the thread, FReepers Offering Lodging To Rita Evacuees - People and/or Pet Friendly FReepers Offering Shelter
 
 Thanks for the link. FR is on top of it, as usual.
 
 1) Link to maps of storm surge danger zones in the greater Houston area:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/tropical/evac_map/gifs/

(Chambers, Liberty, Harris, Galveston, Brazoria, Matagorda, Jackson counties, from east to west)


2) Map of flood danger zones(all types) in Houston:

http://www.houstontx.gov/oem/c5ss.jpg
 
 Houston worse-case scenario
 
 Here is the toy you are looking for. High is Sat AM around 7, low SAT 7 PM.
 
 OK so that's where the quote came from. Joe Bastardi did not make it up!
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3046592

Info on the New Orleans-destroying "Save Our Wetlands"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488707/posts?page=33#33
 
 My hubby said one of his people called in, it took them five hours to get from Houston to The Woodlands...

I just spent the last five hours out in it. Here are my observations:

All freeways are jammed and bumper-to-bumper, like the very worst of rush-hour, except that it doesn't end, not even in the middle of the night, and *all* sections of freeway are that bad, including the parts that are normally still pretty clear during normal rush-hours. The only exception are lanes heading *towards* the coast, which are about as empty as they can be -- I made record time heading down towards the NASA are. It's getting *back* that was grueling.

The feeder roads are actually better than the freeways most of the time, and at times can zip along pretty quickly, up to 50mph.

Just a block or two off the freeways, the surface roads ARE CLEAR SAILING. I found this to be consistently true all over town. If you know your way around town, AVOID THE FREEWAYS and drive the surface streets. You'll make *much* better time, even taking into consideration the traffic lights and lower speed limits. Not only are the evacuees all on the freeways and not on the surface streets, but the regular city traffic isn't out as usual either, since the whole city is battening down the hatches.

 
 A million flee wrath of Rita -- Current location

 
 
 Rita could equal $5 gas
 


23 posted on 09/22/2005 12:26:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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 FNC just said 175 mph SUSTAINED winds.
Lord have mercy.
 
 

24 posted on 09/22/2005 1:21:30 AM PDT by backhoe
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 I noticed several hours ago that Rita took a more abrupt turn to the northwest than the forecast track would indicate. More importantly, you can check out several of the leading models here, and they are in fact now veering toward the TX-LA border.
 
 
 Rita Hits Cat 5 Hurricane [ 1, 2, 3 ]
 


25 posted on 09/22/2005 2:21:11 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Hurricane Impact Report* for Galveston
http://tinyurl.com/a667p
 
 ALL the latest models are now showing the Sabine Pass area, the Tx La border. The strom has started it's turn earlier than anticipated and is now moving WNW.
Bad bad news for New Orleans.
 
 Not the greatest map, but here's one from KPLC.
 
 Speaking of boarding up, did you see the plylox window clips mentioned on another thread? I'm planning to check those out for the patio doors.

26 posted on 09/22/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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IF ALL THIS WASN/T ENOUGH...GFS80 HAS CONTINUED TO SHOW A REBUILDING RIDGE ALL AROUND WEAKENING RITA...SO MUCH THAT RITA COULD ROTATE AROUND PARTS OF N E AND S TEXAS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.


27 posted on 09/22/2005 2:56:03 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 RITA PREDICTION FROM THE U.S. NAVY
http://tinyurl.com/8rgr8
 
 Senators seek to rein in gas prices [Major ignorance of Economics 101]
 
 
Emergency routes
Evacuation Map for Southwest Louisiana
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28 posted on 09/22/2005 3:10:16 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 UPDATE

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/085837.shtml?5day


Wow that is a MAJOR shift in the forecast.
29 posted on 09/22/2005 3:22:27 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part IV
 
 Oil nears $68, Rita threatens facilities ($67.75/bbl)

30 posted on 09/22/2005 3:52:16 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe
Thanks, backhoe! Again! :)

Hadn't seen that map of the rig locations before. Wow.

31 posted on 09/22/2005 3:57:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Hi, mewzilla- thanks for stopping by!

Hadn't seen that map of the rig locations before. Wow.

Yes, I wish I could find mhking's "Just Damn!" banner- it really can't get much worse.

32 posted on 09/22/2005 4:02:02 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 IMMEDIATE RITA EVACUATION RECOMMENDATIONS
 Someone on a previous thread commented on how this was a hundred mile wide tornado. That's not so far off base.
This is the Fujita scale;
Zero (F0) Weak 40-72 mph
One (F1) Weak 73-112 mph
Two (F2) Strong 113-157 mph
Three (F3) Strong 158-206 mph
Four (F4) Violent 207-260 mph
Five (F5) Violent 260-318 mph


This storm is equivalent to an F3 tornado.
I hope people are listening THIS time.

33 posted on 09/22/2005 6:25:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 HURRICANE RITA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 20A
 
 Rain from Rita begins falling in New Orleans
 
 Rita brings flooding fears to New Orleans
 
 
Tropical Watch and NHC Models for Google Earth - contains 4 NHC storm forecast models, 3 updated satellite images, and a ton of analytical diagrams overlayed on Google Earth.

US High-res National Radar from NSSL/U.ofOkla. National high-resolution (1 km) radar reflectivity mosaic, updated once every two minutes. Note that there are no radar sites in the middle of the gulf, so until the storm nears land and the sites that are there, you won't see much on this radar.

Here's a composite I just did which combines both of the dynamic data layers listed above and overlays them on Google Earth.


1,610 posted on 09/22/2005 2:59:01 PM EDT by Spiff
 
 Free Abortions for Hurricane Victims
 
 Tax-cut canard
 
 The Need To Seed -- Massive Cloud or Ocean Seeding - Could It Make A Difference?
 
 Oil Prices Surge as Hurricane Rita Nears -- did you see the nat gas prices? $12.81 at last check. No wonder why the envirowhackos want all power to be natural gas; then there will be rolling blackouts from supply disruptions.
 
 Thoughts on Expediting Houston Evacuations -- Why doesn't some level of government (or even private) offer roadside interstate refueling?
Make a mobile 4 to 8 pump system that connects to a fuel semi and park it at a rest stop or on the shoulder and let people fill their tanks without leaving the highway ...
 
 Fox news has reported that the military is using gas tank trucks in designating areas along the highway for folks who run out of gas...don't ask me how they'll do it! That's what the reporter said! Military type gas tank trucks, like the ones used in Iraq

34 posted on 09/22/2005 12:17:19 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 After this hurricane season and the paucity of gasoline supplies, any liberal envionmentalists who whine about drilling in ANWAR should be required by law to WALK wherever they have to go.
 
 
To: onyx; All

Update:

Galveston roads are almost completely empty. Hwy 146 (freeway on the west border of Galveston Bay) is also empty all the way up to at least Baytown. I-45 gulf freeway is nearly empty all the way up from Galveston to almost Loop 610(a few miles southeast of downtown.) Southwest freeway nearly empty at Beltway 8 on the west side of Houston.

Still stacked up on all the freeways to the west and north, but traffic has begun moving faster in the last hour or two. Outbound side roads out those directions also clogged, but the rear of the backup is advancing north and west. Keep in mind, the evac plan wasn't designed for a 100% evac of the metro, just 100% of the lowlying areas. Those in suitable buildings 60 miles or more inland might be ok staying. La Porte officials believe 80% of town has evacuated.

I-45 contraflow open, I-10 soon to open, Hwy 290 still not open because bottlenecks in Giddings and Brenham are not yet cleared. Some pissant counties out to the west don't have their act together and haven't been able to implement their portions of the statewide evac plans. Huge backup in Fulshear because the lights are on their normal cycle and the town police can't be bothered to direct traffic. Guess he's too busy "Blocking the bridge"?

Biggest unforseen headache seems to be the shutdown of nearly all gas stations. Since the evac plans didn't anticipate a full evacuation of the metro, it appears they weren't treated as essential services. Rolling gas resupply fleet was part of the plan, but it may not be enough. Wonder if officials will commandeer closed gas stations that still have inventory. Let the Libertarians bitch all they want about that. Those stranded who don't get gas will be taken to shelters. Still nearly 36 hours of evacuation time left.

According to Channel 11 in Houston, IF the current track holds Conroe could be looking at 75 mph sustained winds, hurricane winds maybe as far west as Sealy. Baytown could see 90-100mph, downtown Houston 75-90mph. 1 in 4 pine trees could be blown down in the metro.

Some possible suggestions:

Head southwest along the coast and turn north or west. In fact Harlingen/Brownsville, Laredo, (and maybe even Corpus depending on what happens the next 12-24 hours) might be the best place to head to. You can always sleep in your car, but a lot easier to do so without hurricane winds.

If you must evac using I-45, 290, I-10, etc., perhaps wait a few more hours and see if the lines start to lessen. If you are stuck in traffic(congrats on being online in your car!) towards the rear of the backup and starting to run low on gas, pull over for a few hours to conserve gas and let the backup drain down. Things will most likely start moving faster over the next few hours as contraflow takes its effect and others have been scared off from trying to get in line to get out.

But remember, a direct hit on Galveston is still about the highest possibility, at 24% (chance of a landfall within 50 miles either way.) Port Arthur is at 21%, Corpus at 19%, and New Orleans still at 16%. The models are still divergent, so there is NO guarantee that the track will continue to move east, and may at some point move west again. There are 2 different highs affecting this track, and the solid ridge is going to break at some point.





1,989 posted on 09/22/2005 3:57:25 PM EDT by Diddle E. Squat

35 posted on 09/22/2005 1:00:30 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Legislation would require pet to be included in evacuations
 
 The Right Way to Use Buses
 
 Picture of Rita's Wind Swath from NOAA
 
 (RITA) Leaving Houston? Good luck -- [shakes head] Just checked the traffic cams at http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/cameras/camtext.aspx - all the traffic-laden roads are NOT using both sets of lanes. Painful to see full-blown jams on one side of the median, and almost entirely empty on the other side.

36 posted on 09/22/2005 1:17:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 kplc tv streaming again. http://www.kplctv.com/
 
 
 
 
 Where's the calls for Fed aid? Where's the looters?( Vanity )
 
 I doubt we'll see much "looting" in Texas
 
 Round Two: Rita is all Bush’s Fault!
 
 Elaborate plans in motion ahead of Rita
 
 The folks in Lake Charles are smarter than Nagin and company in NOLA - How to evacuate (Lake Charles) if you have no transportation. They'll be running buses around the city at 7 am tomorrow to pick up people who can't make it to the Civic Center to catch buses out of town there.

37 posted on 09/22/2005 4:50:53 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part V
 Previous Threads:
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part III
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm Rita
Tropical Depression 18
 
 Running out of time (Bush blamed for Houston's traffic) -- I just saw a live shot of the Highways and there is NO TRAFFIC JAMS right now.
Of course. The contraflow cleared out the jams in three hours.
But the media have their story, and they'll pimp it even as people are driving out of Houston at the posted speed limits.
 
 Gun sales surge in Louisiana following storm
 
 No Way Out: Tears, Anger As Many Poor Are Stuck
 
 Update from Freeper at Houston via email
 
 Rita evacuation turns into traffic nightmare -- Lots of macro and micro lessons to be learned

No kidding.

So far:

1. Gun ownership - vital

2. Survival basics for at least a week should be on hand

3. The government can not protect you and your family

4. Band together with like-minded individuals and watch each other's back

5. Have alternate escape routes from large metropolitan areas pre-mapped so you're not killed with the cattle during the coming dirty nuke/bio-strike

 NRA files suit to stop firearms seizures in New Orleans

British scientist criticises US climate "loonies" -- this so-called scientist has nothing to say on the sharp DECREASE in hurricanes over the past 70 years...

 
 Weather Service officials gave dire, accurate warnings before Hurricane Katrina hit -- It's tough to reason with people who are stuck on stupid.
 
 Hurricane Wind Forces On Levee Flood Walls
 
 

Water going over Seawall Avenue in Galveston - already

1,568 posted on 09/23/2005 2:41:04 AM EDT

38 posted on 09/23/2005 1:34:08 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Today's Rita Coverage Stirs Ashes of Katrina's Racial Discord: "Afraid You Could Be Left Behind?"
 
 [Boston:] Hub evac plan useless: Traffic jams mean 'you're dead'
 
 Bus explodes carrying evacuees (drudge headline only) -- WFAA claiming ONE fatality. That sounds much better than what they were saying of FOX.  

As many as 20 reportedly dead in evacuee bus fire

 
 
 
 
 

FNC Alert

Water gushing into NO's 9th ward

1,993 posted on 09/23/2005 9:08:21 AM EDT by Mo1

39 posted on 09/23/2005 6:14:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VI
 
 The wind's picking up here now, even though she's been downgraded to CAT III. This is the latest NOAA photo.
 
 Frankly, all this coverage of watching New Orleans flood again is making me, and I'm sure lot of other people, even more convinced that the rebuilding of New Orleans cannot happen in anything close to the same way it was before.
 

New Orleans Facing More Flooding by Rita
 
 Water gushing into NO 9th Ward
 
 The current NOLA radar loop at
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/lix_N0Z_lp.shtml
 
Well, here's a photo of what's going on with the levee:

Looks like it's well on the way to becoming a breach.

2,494 posted on 09/23/2005 11:50:02 AM EDT by dirtboy
 
 

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Image #2

301 posted on 09/23/2005 2:18:06 PM EDT by GRRRRR
 
 Groups call arms seizures 'arbitrary'
 
 ‘It really puts the fear of God in you’
 
 Fast Facts: How to Prepare

40 posted on 09/23/2005 12:16:02 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 A really great IR loop...shows the re-intensifying going on right now, and enough images to show the direction:

Here
 
 
Rita Satellite/Radar
Map Room Click to Enlarge

 

 

Hurricane Central
Hurricane Rita weakens still more
9/23/2005 2:00 p.m. ET

Persistent weakening has brought Hurricane Rita down to a Category 3 storm. The eye is heading for a Saturday morning rendezvous with the upper Texas or southwest Louisiana Gulf Coast.

 

41 posted on 09/23/2005 12:26:58 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 See Radar loop, refresh occasionally

http://radar.weather.gov/radar/loop/DS.p20-r/si.klix.shtml
 
 Blanco on TV now, trying to impersonate a governor.
 Blanco is giving a news conference. She said, "I've asked Rita"
I'm sure we could do our own remake of "The gods must be crazy" ...w/Katrina & Rita serving as the local gods who must be appeased. Blanco could play the high priestess who consults w/the angry god (Rita). I'm sure she'll tell us, within a message from Rita, that the taxpayer must be sacrificed.
 Blanco is giving a news conference. She said, "I've asked Rita" Instead of "I've asked FEMA"!
Now she is consulting the hurricane!
 Get this: she is asking for all sorts of money, including complete pay for police and fire from the Feds, instead of just overtime. Also she wants more money so that people of Louisiana can come home (translation...get those Rat voters back now). She also is confusung Rita and Katrina, and Rita and FEMA.
-- she is picking up where her two US Senators left off yesterday...
They called a presser to say that they are going to ask the federal govt. (you and me) to give them 250 BILLION dollars to rebuild NO...and even pay for mosquito spraying, building new homes for everyone...etc...
So, I guess NOW it is the Governor's turn...
I agree with Rush on this---not only is it despicable that they want taxpayers to pay for the repairs of a levee that HAD been financed but squandered by the locals....
BUT, it is in VERY BAD TASTE to demand this money on the eve of Texas perhaps being pounded by a hurricane...
He said they didn't wait though, because the wanted to be first in line with their hands out....
I SAY---they just screwed the pooch...I am going to tell my Congresscritters to NOT give any of my money for NO...unless it is built ABOVE sea-level and the state of LA has to pay for their share.

42 posted on 09/23/2005 1:11:03 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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I haven't gone thru all 900+ posts, but everyone should be aware of the potential massive flooding that will probably happen all over East Texas and La because the 5 Day Tracking models show Rita STALLING over North Eastern Texas for DAYS!

See:
5 Day Track Models.

The long term flooding could be as bad as Alicia was over the eastern US several years ago.

1,041 posted on 09/23/2005 4:06:12 PM EDT by auzerais

43 posted on 09/23/2005 1:16:02 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Great thread, backhoe. I have one of those crank type radios with the light included. It works great. I keep it with the other emergency supplies. Katrina and Rita are warnings that we MUST be better prepared as INDIVIDUALS. We can't expect the government to protect us. Unfortunately, very few will take the steps to prepare even after witnessing what has happened these past few weeks. I'm at a loss for words when I see smart people fail to do what they need to do to survive.


44 posted on 09/23/2005 1:26:21 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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I have one of those crank type radios with the light included. It works great. I keep it with the other emergency supplies. Katrina and Rita are warnings that we MUST be better prepared as INDIVIDUALS. We can't expect the government to protect us. Unfortunately, very few will take the steps to prepare even after witnessing what has happened these past few weeks. I'm at a loss for words when I see smart people fail to do what they need to do to survive.

Well, hi! toomanygrasshoppers ( always liked your screen name )-- you're so right... people have it a$$-backwards when they expect the President, the Governor, and the Mayor to "do something" and "protect" them-- it's up to the individual first, then the family. It's not a top-down situation- it starts with us folks down on the ground.

It's weird how panic starts to spill over, too-- we are on the Georgia coast, but I'm seeing ( short ) lines at the gas stations, items are disappearing from stores- you can't find a generator now- and people are driving like homicidal maniacs. I shudder to think what it would be like if a storm were actually headed for us.

45 posted on 09/23/2005 1:47:35 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Unfeasability of rebuilding New Orleans

Skip the obvious bias from energy producers who want the money spent on their industry instead...this has some interesting background and history of the city.

46 posted on 09/23/2005 1:50:14 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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I try to convince my family members that just panic will create shortages, let alone a true disaster or terror attack. They think that b/c they live in a small town, away from a large city that they will never have to worry. Believe me, if we have a major attack ANYWHERE in the US, we will all feel it. There will be true fuel shortages which means that trucks will not be able to bring supplies to the stores. In the first hour, stores will be looted (as we have already seen) even during daylight hours when the stores are open. Once a disaster happens, it will be too late. People have to look at their own situations and say "what would I do or need if X event happened" You can't plan for everything, but you have to have SOME plan. (End of rant) :>)


47 posted on 09/23/2005 1:55:32 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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I regret to say, I think you are right- ever read any of the long-dead Mel Tappan's books on survival?

He made the point that since the gas crisis in 1973 made cars go farther on a tank of gas, "the ghetto was coming to you"-- even if you lived away from the cities.

48 posted on 09/23/2005 2:13:56 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Flood Gages for SW Louisiana Parishes:

http://tinyurl.com/ey5jf
 
 
Part 3 of a Series: If Leadership were Rated Like Hurricanes

"Keeping Your Head During a Crisis": Non-Examples

  • Cat 1 - Teddy "the Swimmer"
  • Cat 2 - Clinton
  • Cat 3 - Carter
  • Cat 4 - Fubar-Nagin
  • Cat 5 - Snafu-Blanco

1,334 posted on 09/23/2005 5:13:49 PM EDT by bwteim
 
 Here's the latest predicted storm track. Click on the image to pop up a full-sized view.

 http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/images/rita/204650W_sm-thumb.gif

 Stingray: Conservative blog

 Texas Clearinghouse for Katrina Aid

 The image “http://www.usawx.com/powerfulritasept22430pmeastern1y.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.


49 posted on 09/23/2005 2:20:55 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 CNN Reports Sonny Perdue to Shut Ga Schools Monday and Tuesday
 
 Georgia Governor asks schools to close
 
 Major Victory For Firearms Owners And Freedom In Louisiana
 
New Orleans' Ninth Ward Under Water Again
 
 Rita's Rains Breach Two New Orleans Levees
 
 Moral poverty cost blacks in New Orleans
 
 NuStart Selects Grand Gulf, Bellefonte for Advanced Nuclear Plant Licenses
 
 

50 posted on 09/23/2005 2:36:32 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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