Evelyn Miller's father, stepmother break silence [5-year-old murdered in July, no arrests (IA)]

*hits self on head*

I am such a doof. I remember now ... it wasn't "tender mercies," it was the "tender years" doctrine, the idea being that kids needed to be with their moms during their tender young years. The ol' memories a little rusty!

I'm sure you're going through some tough times. Try not to take the posts here personally.

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All you have to do is take that part back!

That reveals more than anything you've written. Condescending, patronizing, interpreting concepts by emotion rather than reason -- and then demanding an apology! |^)

You sound like a typical woman. I'm a woman, too, just not typical. Men are easy to understand because emotional manipulation, semantics, and mind games aren't typically their MO in romance or debate; with them, it's usually what you see is what you get -- indeed the problem is often with women who don't want to see what it is they're getting. Typical women generally cook-up the kind of mental gumbo you've served up here so well. Lady, I feel kind of sorry for your husband.

Funny, I don't see the word "apology" in my post.

I have been responding to you in a calm and reasonable manner. You are taking everything to the extreme. You seem to have issues with women.

Btw, that little Freepmail you sent to me constitutes "abuse" on this forum. I have never reported anyone here for abuse, and I don't want to start. So I think I'll just laugh at your message and pity you instead. If you post to me again, I will report it.

Or, what if Evelyn's maternal grandparents had adopted her (practially, if not legally)?

Sorry, but that's the biggest joke I've heard all day! LOL. Have you SEEN Noel's mother (Evelyn's maternal grandmother)? She's nuttier than a fruitcake. She stumbles around town drunk and/or high (or acting like it) half the time. Not exactly a stable woman. Noel's father is dead, and he was never married to her mother in the first place.

Sorry, but that's the biggest joke I've heard all day! LOL. Have you SEEN Noel's mother (Evelyn's maternal grandmother)?

Yes, but not until a few days after I posted that "what if" comment which you quoted. I see what you mean.

Noel's father is dead, and he was never married to her mother in the first place.

Well, how about that. Guess it runs in the family.

I hope this isn't a case of the system/DHS letting the child down. I also hope that her mom and/or her boyfriend didn't kill her. To go through what this child did, let alone at the hands of someone who was suposed to be trustworthy, would be even more horrible. I pray that justice is done.

unfortunately, it is another case of DHS letting the child down. Over 12 reports!!!!How in the world could someone just walk out of that house without taking those children with them.
Have any of you actually MET Noel?? like I said, I am a good friend of the Christie's and at a point in time the Miller's. Lindsey would take me with her to pick Evelyn up (when Andy was working 2nd shift) so that she would have a witness to everything she saw in the Miller/ Fredriksen home. Andy and Lindsey were building a case to get Evelyn out of that terrible enviroment. I had seen their two youngest being ignored while standing on cluttered kitchen counters, inches away from a full knife rack. Evelyn's bedroom, toys all over the floor with bugs crawling on them, her bedroom walls with pot leaves, mushrooms, and flames drawn on them (by adults) with a few of Evey's masterpeices. I've listened to Noel and Casey SCREAM acroos the apartment at each other the worst names in the book, them throwing stuff at each other, Noel hitting Casey. Then moments later them making out in front of adult, children whoever was there, like they were not just at eachother's throats, marijuana sitting out in children's veiw/reach, "bongs" and pipes sitting around anywhere, and everywhere. yes, this was defiantly a case of DHS leaving children in an unfit home.

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