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Aborted Baby Stem Cells in Mouse Experiments a Medical and Ethical Disaster
LifeSite ^ | September 22, 2005

Posted on 09/22/2005 1:47:25 PM PDT by NYer

PALO ALTO, September 22, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The use of human foetal brain tissue in spinal cord experiments with mice has shown some success, but is likely to alarm medical ethicists as well as raise objections from pro-life advocates.

Researchers at University of California at Irvine injected stem cells derived from the brains of human foetuses into mice with severe spinal cord injuries. The mice regained some mobility and the research team is cautiously hopeful that this experiment will lead to progress with spinal cord injuries in humans. The stem cells were derived from babies aborted at about 16 to 18 weeks.

Pro-life activists have for years decried the use of aborted babies in medical research maintaining that not only is it a desecration of the dead, but it creates an additional profit motive for killing the unborn and treating unborn children as commercial commodities.

The rationale given for using aborted children’s bodies in medical research is usually that since the children are going to be killed anyway, some good might as well be had from their remains which would otherwise be discarded. Exactly that argument is regularly applied to the use of living frozen embryonic children left in storage after IVF treatments. Pro-life advocates have often pointed out that precisely the same reasoning was used at the Nuremberg war crimes tribunals to justify the use of living human test subjects in Nazi concentration camps.

Problems with the ethics of using embryonic or foetal stem cells derived from aborted babies, however, are not confined to the horror of creating a medical research market for killing babies. Previous experiments with tissue or stem cells derived from embryos or foetuses have proved to be medically disastrous for patients as well.

The Washington Post reports that three California companies have applied to the Food and Drug Administration for permission to begin experiments to use foetal stem cells in direct experimentation with human patients.

The Post says that StemCells Inc. of Palo Alto, one of the most prominent of the private stem cell companies, has asked permission to start injecting the cells directly into the
brains of infants with Batten disease, an inherited illness that destroys the central nervous system.

Dr. John Shea, a physician and researcher who has made extensive study of the medical consequences of using embryo cells on human patients told LifeSiteNews.com that this could be disastrous for the patients. “When they used neural cells on Parkinson’s patients in 2001, it made the patients much worse,” he said. “In fact, the doctors themselves called it ‘catastrophic.’”

Shea is referring to a series of studies done in which foetal cells were injected into the brains of patients with severe Parkinson’s disease and resulted in severe irreversible side effects. One of the researchers in the 2001 experiment, Dr. Paul Greene, a neurologist at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, said the results for patients were “absolutely devastating… tragic, catastrophic,” and “a real nightmare.” Green said, “We are absolutely and adamantly convinced that [foetal transplants] should be considered for research only. And whether it should be researched in people is an open question.”

Read coverage from the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...

Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/jun/04063011.html


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortedstemcells; abortion; abortionlist; animalresearch; escr; fetalcells; fetus; spinalcord; stemcell; stemcells

1 posted on 09/22/2005 1:47:29 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Frankenmice


2 posted on 09/22/2005 1:48:56 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Human embryos are human beings. "Respect for the dignity of the human being excludes all experimental manipulation or exploitation of the human embryo" (CRF 4b).

Recent scientific advances show that often medical treatments that researchers hope to develop from experimentation on embryonic stem cells can be developed by using adult stem cells instead. Adult stem cells can be obtained without doing harm to the adults from whom they come. Thus there is no valid medical argument in favor of using embryonic stem cells. And even if there were benefits to be had from such experiments, they would not justify destroying innocent embryonic humans.
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3 posted on 09/22/2005 1:49:23 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Heard about this on the radio yesterday, and it made me sick.

I shudder to think of what is next.


4 posted on 09/22/2005 1:52:19 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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later pingout...


5 posted on 09/22/2005 1:52:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: NYer

Ghoulish and stomach-turning.


6 posted on 09/22/2005 2:01:00 PM PDT by Malacoda (*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*)
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To: NYer

Ahhhh, the joys of progress...


7 posted on 09/22/2005 2:04:56 PM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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8 posted on 09/22/2005 2:09:51 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: NYer
Researchers at University of California at Irvine injected stem cells derived from the brains of human foetuses into mice with severe spinal cord injuries.

American Nazis.

9 posted on 09/22/2005 2:15:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

Absolutely sickening and disgusting.
Pure evil.


10 posted on 09/22/2005 2:16:04 PM PDT by protest1
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Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!


11 posted on 09/22/2005 2:23:19 PM PDT by cgk (When the BIG ONE wipes out Hollywood can we call it Bush's Fault instead of the San Andreas Fault?)
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To: NYer
Man, this is sick

The stem cells were derived from babies aborted at about 16 to 18 weeks... The rationale given for using aborted children's bodies in medical research is usually that since the children are going to be killed anyway, some good might as well be had from their remains which would otherwise be discarded.

12 posted on 09/22/2005 2:45:36 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: NYer

Just absolutely beyond words what is happening in the so called science labs.

Mengele would be proud.


13 posted on 09/22/2005 2:48:39 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: ArrogantBustard

Want to drive the liberals insane you know the ones who think all this is ok? Let's start a campaign that we found out that cells from seals or whales you know an ANIMAL and see how they react. The ones who are prochoice are always proanimal. It drives me nuts.


14 posted on 09/22/2005 2:55:00 PM PDT by red irish
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To: NYer

My guess is this story is 100% BS. It's all about the money.


15 posted on 09/22/2005 3:12:20 PM PDT by John Lenin (The democrat party has been stuck on stupid for 3 decades)
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To: Coleus

bump for later


16 posted on 09/22/2005 3:29:31 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: NYer

I'm sickened.


17 posted on 09/22/2005 3:40:46 PM PDT by after dark
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To: NYer

Where are the people for the ethical treatment of animals?


18 posted on 09/22/2005 3:41:51 PM PDT by after dark
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"The rationale given for using aborted children’s bodies in medical research is usually that since the children are going to be killed anyway, some good might as well be had from their remains which would otherwise be discarded."

But let's fast forward a bit with that "logic" and apply some simple economics to it. Any commodity that has a demand will soon have a supply arise to meet it. Be it gasoline, food, shelter, clothing, chemicals, illicit drugs, or what have you. Once you allow the demand to develop, the supply will develop as well.

Do we really want to see a market in aborted fetuses? Because that's where this is going. The frightening part is that a significant portion of the populace appears willing to allow it.

19 posted on 09/22/2005 3:42:11 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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I'm hoping the research on placental and adult stem cells pans out in lab and clinical trials as more viable than embryonic stem cells. Otherwise, the outcome you fear shall be inevitable.


20 posted on 09/22/2005 3:53:22 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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Well then why don't they start aborting mice and using mouse stem cells on human spinal cord injury victims. Oh yeah, then PETA would be upset.


21 posted on 09/22/2005 4:15:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: King Prout

Adult stem cells are already successfully working for spinal cord injuries.


22 posted on 09/22/2005 4:25:33 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: King Prout

"I'm hoping the research on placental and adult stem cells pans out in lab and clinical trials as more viable than embryonic stem cells. Otherwise, the outcome you fear shall be inevitable."

Good to hear from you my FRiend.

Sad to say, there always seems to be someone who is willing to check their conscience at the door and supply whatever the market is willing to purchase. I share your hope that adult and placental stem cell research pans out in a big way.


23 posted on 09/22/2005 4:33:42 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: NYer
mice with severe spinal cord injuries

I don't know why this struck me, but 'mice with severe spinal cord injuries?' Where in the hell did they find mice with severe spinal cord injuries? The next thing you know is some laboratory with a government grant will be conducting experiments on mice with erection deficiency. Where do they find these mice? I really need to know!

24 posted on 09/22/2005 4:44:37 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: NYer; Army Air Corps
Dr. John Shea, a physician and researcher who has made extensive study of the medical consequences of using embryo cells on human patients told LifeSiteNews.com that this could be disastrous for the patients. “When they used neural cells on Parkinson’s patients in 2001, it made the patients much worse,” he said. “In fact, the doctors themselves called it ‘catastrophic.’”

More evidence that embryonic stem cell research isn't a good idea.

25 posted on 09/22/2005 7:04:18 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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The article is simple gruesome. There is no word for these researchers other than ghouls. This is criminal and subhuman behaviour.


26 posted on 09/22/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Exactly. An ever growing number of medical research articles published by major research companies, and by renown scientists working in this field have acknowledged that there is no need for embryonic stem cells due to the fact that adult stem cells produce better results.


27 posted on 09/22/2005 7:17:55 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 09/22/2005 8:12:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: John Lenin

No, it's all about justifying killing 16-18 week old innocents by those who want to be god.


29 posted on 09/22/2005 8:15:50 PM PDT by victim soul
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Sorry for any redundant pings, if any.


30 posted on 09/23/2005 8:25:13 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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31 posted on 09/25/2005 4:04:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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32 posted on 09/26/2005 9:59:50 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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See the The Island of Dr. Moreau


33 posted on 09/26/2005 6:14:56 PM PDT by A. Pole (For today's Democrats abortion and "gay marriage" are more important that the whole New Deal legacy.)
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To: NYer
For all their degrees and titles, it comes down to crude vulgar mengele vampire medicine masquerading as science.

I would rather live in constant chronic severe pain forever from cervical vertebrae injury than use the their aborted stem cells. And I do live in that pain.

Wolf
34 posted on 09/26/2005 7:11:21 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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FYI


35 posted on 09/26/2005 8:23:59 PM PDT by GummyIII (If you have the ability, it's your responsibility." Marine Sgt. John Place, Silver Star recipient)
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To: layman
don't know why this struck me, but 'mice with severe spinal cord injuries?' Where in the hell did they find mice with severe spinal cord injuries? The next thing you know is some laboratory with a government grant will be conducting experiments on mice with erection deficiency. Where do they find these mice? I really need to know!

They sever the spinal cords of the mice with a scalpel.

36 posted on 09/27/2005 5:32:25 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: NYer

I really believe there will come a day (if it isn't happening already) to when unwanted babies will be delivered early by C-section and all their organs harvested and sold. The thought is beyond awful. I cannot imagine being a doctor or nurse performing an abortion. HOW CAN one see that little body and not see it as a baby? There truly is a special place in Hell for these people. I also believe the pro-lifers in this country put WAYYYYY TO MUCH faith in our politicians and courts on the abortion issue. I'm of the belief that the battle should be to win hearts and minds one at a time through individual ministry efforts. Our political leaders will ALWAYS FAIL us on this effort. They give nothing but lip service.


37 posted on 09/27/2005 5:39:09 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: NYer
Adult Stem Cell Research Treats Spinal Cord Injury Patient

Paraplegic breakthrough using adult stem cells for Spinal Cord Repair

There is no need to do barbaric research and kill human beings in the embryonic stage to do research on nerve regeneration.  Adult stem cells work.
 
*In 2000, Israeli scientists implanted Melissa Holley's white blood cells into her spinal cord to treat the paraplegia caused when her spinal cord was severed in an auto accident. Melissa, who is 18, has since regained control over her bladder and recovered significant motor function in her limbs - she can now move her legs and toes, although she cannot yet walk.
 
This is exactly the kind of therapy that embryonic-stem-cell proponents promise - years down the road. Yet Melissa's breakthrough was met with collective yawns in the press with the exception of Canada's The Globe and Mail.  Non-embryonic stem cells may be as common as beach sand.
 
Pioneer in Spinal Cord Injury Recovery to visit RIM
 
Techniques Push Stem Cells to Repair Damaged Nerves
 
Ethical Stem Cell Surgery gave Paraplegic, Erica Nader, ability to walk briefly 3 yrs. later
 
Adult stem cell surgery may have teen walking again soon
 
Growing Nerve Cells from Hair Follicles
 
Spinal Cord Patient Speaks out: Embryonic stem cell helps patents not patients
 
Canadian tries Russian stem cell treatment
 
Adult Stem Cell Research Treats Spinal Cord Injury Patient
 
Paralyzed man given hope by experimental surgery (Stem cells from his own sinuses to be used)
 
Adult stem cells (nasal cells) help paralysed 18 year old to walk
 
REGENERATING HOPE FOR A PARALYSIS CURE (macrophages are injected into the spinal cord)
 
Doctors in Russia Prove that Non-Embryonic Stem Cells can be Used in Treating Spinal Cord Injuries
 
Family pins hopes for son on stem-cell shots  cerebral palsy, cord blood
 
ensheathing cells transplantation olfactory ensheathing cells transplantation

38 posted on 08/29/2006 10:54:29 AM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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