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Boat owners say they were fearful during Coast Guard search
The Monterey Herald ^ | September 18, 2005 | VIRGINIA HENNESSEY

Posted on 09/22/2005 2:42:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: The_Media_never_lie

"If smugglers come in at midnite they should not be harassed?"

Then it wasn't a "safety check" was it?


101 posted on 09/22/2005 3:36:11 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: GodBlessUSA
The Coast Guard does not board with other than side arms, unless there is specific intelligence as to a certain area or vessel or a heightened sense of security.

Right. "A heightened sense of security", meaning the War on Terror that even el Presidente has said won't be over for decades.

From the article:

"The second boat owner who spoke to The Herald said his boat was searched after he challenged officers who were searching other boats, at 10:30 p.m. Sept. 2, and during the morning on following days. Told they were acting as Homeland Security officers, he asked what they were protecting the harbor from.

"Terrorists," he said he was told by the officers, who exhorted him to "remember the Cole," referring to the October 2000 attack by terrorists on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors."

Yup, the Yemeni bombers were in this guy's bilge tank!

102 posted on 09/22/2005 3:36:47 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Mount Athos

Your papers, NOW!


103 posted on 09/22/2005 3:37:29 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The Mainstream Media is "Stuck on stupid". (Gen. Honore))
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To: FreedomCalls
What's wrong with that?

Suppose for a moment these were the real mccoy smugglers. Would you advise starting the search with the statement "We suspect you of smuggling, and we are going to look for drugs", or the non-confrontational "We would like to perform a safety inspection".

These LE guys would like to see noone get hurt, including themselves.

104 posted on 09/22/2005 3:38:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: tet68
They might as well be the open sea...

Yep, that's what I'm starting to gather. Idealism interferes with my perception of reality. I can see the rationalization, but it seems extremely heavy-handed.
105 posted on 09/22/2005 3:38:53 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: freeeee

Do you think that customs officers should have to get a warrant to search someone crossing the border?


106 posted on 09/22/2005 3:39:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Mount Athos
Isn't it more than a little insane to compare this to death squads in argentina? Such whining!

Family members of the "Coast Guard" should be subject to random searches with loaded machine guns pointed at them. This should take place at random times throughout the night or day. If this treatment is good enough for average citizens, it is good enough for the families. Just chalk it up to sensitivity training for the Homeland Security workers.

107 posted on 09/22/2005 3:40:03 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: freeeee

"Yup, the Yemeni bombers were in this guy's bilge tank!"

When the owner gets nasty about someone searching his bilge tank, yeah, I'd start wondering if that were the case.

Bottom line: admiralty law applies on navigable waterways, and has ever since the first days of the United States. If you don't like that, then renounce your citizenship and GTFOOMC.


108 posted on 09/22/2005 3:40:08 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Thud
Weapons training includes Military as well as Law Enforcement response. They are not the CowBoys of the Coast.
109 posted on 09/22/2005 3:40:10 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You! Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: Mount Athos
One more, The County Building Code Enforcement Officer


110 posted on 09/22/2005 3:40:46 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The Mainstream Media is "Stuck on stupid". (Gen. Honore))
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To: Ramius

"Do you think that customs officers should have to get a warrant to search someone crossing the border?"

He may be a Libertarian, who doesn't believe in enforcing the border.

Hell, maybe he has a profitable little sideline in drug and people trafficking.


111 posted on 09/22/2005 3:41:13 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: general_re
Oh, well, that would make it okay. No sassing your betters on the water, because they have carte blanche to take revenge upon you for it. Got it.

Why should the boating public (often very wealthy) sass LE officers who must work to earn a living? Don't you believe they should be treated with respect too?

BTW, I would hardly call a safety inspection done respectfully as revenge, would you?

112 posted on 09/22/2005 3:42:00 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I bought a new boat and we were boarded by the Coast Guard within weeks of purchase. They were armed. We were told in our boating course that the Coast Guard could board and check the vessel for safety vests, flares, fire extinguishes, paperwork and any and all saftey violations.
We opened up our boat for them, we gave them the paperwork and they checked us out. The chances of someone hitting the bay bridge over the Chesapeake or any other bridge is on their mind. I thanked them for their service. One young man told me he seldom heard that from anyone.....they were professional. The water was a bit choppy and the vessels were tied together in open water. The guardsman took care to tie up carefully and protect our new boat with several bumpers. I am glad they are on the job. They have their hands full with nuts and drunks using boats.


113 posted on 09/22/2005 3:42:40 PM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The post 2000 freepers will see the necessity in this. I mean it is for the children and all.


114 posted on 09/22/2005 3:44:07 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Pessimist
Then it wasn't a "safety check" was it?

Probably not.

115 posted on 09/22/2005 3:44:10 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Mount Athos

Since Sep 14, 2004

Figures


116 posted on 09/22/2005 3:45:20 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: aShepard

The waste disposal thing might actually be a federal reg.


117 posted on 09/22/2005 3:46:08 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: GladesGuru

Yep. Kinda like those BATF Rambo's a few years back down in Waco.

Rather a tough price to pay.


118 posted on 09/22/2005 3:46:55 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hey Tonk...check out this thread..

ping


119 posted on 09/22/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Hey Fox News, MORE MOLLY, LESS Greta van Talksoutthesideofhermouth)
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To: AdamSelene235
Sure. Howsomever, if Hamilton had had his way the US would have been a monarchy, with Washington as King and Alexander the First as the Heir designate. Hamilton did NOT believe that the people could run their own affairs without the "aid" of their betters....meaning men like himself.
120 posted on 09/22/2005 3:48:18 PM PDT by Rifleman
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