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Jordan Says Israel Has No Religious Right to Jerusalem
Arutz 7 ^ | 09:50 Sep 22, '05 | staff

Posted on 09/23/2005 6:39:55 AM PDT by jonatron

(IsraelNN.com) Responding angrily to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's United Nations General Assembly address, Jordan's Royal Committee for Jerusalem Affairs blasted both the address and the United Nations.

The official Jordanian body referred to Sharon's statements documenting the Jewish People's historic right to Jerusalem as untrue, calling it "full of lies and untruths," questioning how the international body permits a "war criminal" to make "false claims" regarding the holy city.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; islam; israel; jordan; neopaganism; nwo; un
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1 posted on 09/23/2005 6:39:57 AM PDT by jonatron
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To: jonatron

Great, now Jordon is lining up.


2 posted on 09/23/2005 6:41:36 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
And what "religious right" does the "Hashemite Kingdom" have to 80% of the Palestinian Mandate?

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3 posted on 09/23/2005 6:42:40 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: SJackson; Nachum; sheik yerbouty

R.o.P. bump


4 posted on 09/23/2005 6:43:28 AM PDT by jonatron
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To: jonatron
Jordan's Royal Committee for Jerusalem Affairs

Get used to unemployment.

5 posted on 09/23/2005 6:44:07 AM PDT by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: Alouette

Amen to that!


6 posted on 09/23/2005 6:45:17 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: redgolum; sheik yerbouty

"With friends like Egypt and Jordan, Israel doesn't need the EU, CFR & UN."


7 posted on 09/23/2005 6:48:35 AM PDT by jonatron
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To: jonatron
Looks like the Jordan administration is running scared of the Palestinians...
8 posted on 09/23/2005 6:54:54 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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Selling land to a Jew in Jordan merits the death penalty.

A quarter of the seats in Jordan’s legislature belong to the Islamic Action Front, aka the Muslim Brotherhood.

GWB and King Abdullah might be pals, but it’s tiring hearing Jordan instructing on religious and moral issues. At least the morally bankrupt Saudis have oil, all Jordan has is an attractive queen.

9 posted on 09/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by SJackson (we are forced to live in a democracy... the process is frustratingly slow, HRH Gov Blagojevich)
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To: jonatron
The rotten bastards in Amman acting like pre-1967 animals.
10 posted on 09/23/2005 6:57:22 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Edgerunner

Looks like the Jordan administration ARE the Palestinians...


11 posted on 09/23/2005 7:01:29 AM PDT by jackson29
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To: Alouette; SJackson
of interest--Jodie Foster, the new Arab and Nazi apologist...probably suited to your ping list. Appalling--at Horowitz's site, a new movie NOT to see.

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19595

12 posted on 09/23/2005 7:02:47 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: jonatron

That's right. After Mo'ham' had his psychotic break one night, his band of mass murdering psychopathic death cult invaded the more civilized and productive cultures of the Middle East conquoring and nearly exterminating active resistance. Dar al-Islam is Mo'ham's gang's dogma meaning "once conquored always conquored". Since Mo'ham'dians Prime Directive is to kill the Jews wherever they can be found, all of the Jews - men, women, and children, - BUT only secondary to killing Islam's apostates. Of course Islamists believe that the Jews have no rights to Jerusalem. To assert otherwise would lead to one's brutal murder by the guardians of Mo'ham's psychotic dream. Such is the Philistine, or could it really be Philistein, as they are actually related? Kinda cool this long dead psychotic's death cult's beliefs.


13 posted on 09/23/2005 7:03:44 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Alouette
"Hashemite Kingdom"

That's "Hashemite SCUM" according to the old generation of Saudis who ran their a$$e$ out of what is now Saudi Arabia.

14 posted on 09/23/2005 7:04:54 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Mamzelle
Thanks.

pinged SCHLUSSEL: Bad "Flight Plan": Jodie Foster Film Defames Air Marshals, Flight Attendants

also

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15 posted on 09/23/2005 7:08:12 AM PDT by SJackson (we are forced to live in a democracy... the process is frustratingly slow, HRH Gov Blagojevich)
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To: jackson29

Jordan is 'Palestine".


16 posted on 09/23/2005 7:21:21 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: jonatron

Hey here's a NEW and GOOD one, Israel has no right to exist!~}


17 posted on 09/23/2005 7:48:56 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Mamzelle

That is appalling. Here's a live link -

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19595


18 posted on 09/23/2005 7:51:36 AM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: jonatron

Well it's better than claiming that Israel has no right to exist, isn't it? ;-)


19 posted on 09/23/2005 7:53:15 AM PDT by Tarkin (Janice Rogers Brown to the SCOTUS)
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To: jonatron

Jordan is no better than any other muslime country. The enemy is the enemy, no matter how much he smiles and claims he's your friend. Any "king" named "Slave of Allah" is a fiend, and deserves to be treated as such.

Remember, Jordan persecutes Christians as a matter of official policy and punishes land transfers to Jews with death. This is NOT a country the US should consider an ally.....unless you're one of the treasonous anti-Semites at State. Then you should go live there and endure what you apparently believe in.


20 posted on 09/23/2005 8:08:49 AM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll believe it!)
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To: M. Espinola
The rotten bastards in Amman acting like pre-1967 animals.

Do they want another 1967 ass-kicking?

21 posted on 09/23/2005 8:21:16 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: litehaus
That's "Hashemite SCUM" according to the old generation of Saudis who ran their a$$e$ out of what is now Saudi Arabia.

Actually the Saudis are the old robber gang scum who ran off the rival Hashemite robber gang out of their turf with the help of the British, back in the 1920's. So the British, as a "consolation prize" gave the Hashemite 80% of what was originally set aside as the "Jewish Homeland.

22 posted on 09/23/2005 8:24:33 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: Alouette
"Do they want another 1967 ass-kicking?"

lol, if they don't clam up there could be a repeat performance.

23 posted on 09/23/2005 8:25:19 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Alouette
Hashemite verminoids wearing dishrags.
24 posted on 09/23/2005 8:28:09 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: jonatron

Squishem like a bug.


25 posted on 09/23/2005 8:39:46 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Bombardier

unless you're one of the treasonous anti-Semites at State

Huh? What about the anti-semites in the White House? Check out the story of our president asking King Abdullah to speak with the palestinians and israelis about the road map.....aka.... put pressure on Israel!


26 posted on 09/23/2005 9:09:03 AM PDT by MoefromMs
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To: jonatron; Alouette; Bombardier
"Jordan Says Israel Has No Religious Right to Jerusalem"

Memo from Virginia to Jordan:

Kiss my Dixie tailpipe you carpetbaggers!
27 posted on 09/23/2005 9:23:46 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: jonatron

"The official Jordanian body referred to Sharon's statements documenting the Jewish People's historic right to Jerusalem as untrue, calling it "full of lies and untruths," questioning how the international body permits a "war criminal" to make "false claims" regarding the holy city."

Great way to measure the concessions from the world in giving up the "land for peace". They have away Gaza and are getting what? More hostility from Jordan about Jeruselam and u get 10,000 armed Hamas members, plus a massive arm shipment of heavy weapons from Egypt islamic jihad. I would say Israel should not give another inch away and if Bush wants to keep my respect, he should shut the hell up on the issue and stop pressuring Israel to commit suicide for our benefit.


28 posted on 09/23/2005 9:35:48 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: Bombardier

"Remember, Jordan persecutes Christians as a matter of official policy and punishes land transfers to Jews with death. This is NOT a country the US should consider an ally.....unless you're one of the treasonous anti-Semites at State. Then you should go live there and endure what you apparently believe in."

I agree. However, I will say that having met Jordanians who live here now, they are one of the few mulsim people who WANT integration fully in becoming American and act like it.


29 posted on 09/23/2005 9:37:39 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: jonatron

The only people SHaron committed war crimes against are the settlers who were forcibly dragged out of their homes to make room for the enemy.


30 posted on 09/23/2005 9:38:26 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: jonatron
Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Jewish Bible. It is NOT mentioned once by name in the Koran. That ought to settle the question of religious rights in Jerusalem. The city has been the capital of every Jewish polity throughout history. It has never once been the capital of a non-Jewish nation.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
31 posted on 09/23/2005 9:41:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: jonatron
And what "religious basis" do Muslims have to Jerusalem? Jerusalem is not mentioned EVEN ONCE in the unholy Koran. In contrast Jerusalem is central to the Torah and Holy Bible. David and Solomon ruled there, Jesus went on the cross there.

Hundreds of years after Mohammed died, Muslim conquerors invented the myth that Mohammed ascended to Allah's great bathhouse in the sky above Jerusalem. That's it! That's all that have to hang their turbans on. It is a joke, the mosques on the Temple Mount are nothing but symbols of former conquest. They are as out of place as were Soviet tanks in Prague.

32 posted on 09/23/2005 9:45:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: goldstategop

doode,

the romans had problems dealing with the jews and jerusalem... this is documented by the romans both before and after christ.
the jews were out on ther periphery of the roman empire in a relatively unpopulated and marginal area. thus were not of any real interst to the romans.


the romans also documented the rise and fall of the philistines which are UNRELATED to the palestinians and THEIR play on words.

those muslime doodes? did not occur, not for another 800 years AD. their occupation was only by their expansionist warmongering program. the death cult at work.

for others to believe elsewise is pure and unadulterated PS.

I like your assessment of over 800 times in both the old and new testament.

Iwould bet you that if one addressed the talmud that yu wood find the jews were already there 1000 years b4 Christ.

Does anyone here know for sure and where is the support?


33 posted on 09/23/2005 10:09:25 AM PDT by jackson29
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To: Alouette

just another example of a primarily muslim country following the koran and the hadith and waging war on the Jew and Israel by any means necessary.


34 posted on 09/23/2005 11:07:56 AM PDT by F15Eagle (Epistle of James 2:5-6, 12-18, 20, 22, 24)
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To: F15Eagle
We are constantly hearing that "Al Aqsa mosque is Islam's third-holiest site."

How many people know that Hebron is Judaism's second-holiest site? Or that Bethlehem and Nazareth are Christianity's second and third holiest sites?

Can anyone name Judaism's third and fourth holy cities? (clue: they are not "disputed" or "occupied" or overrun with Muslims)

35 posted on 09/23/2005 11:16:45 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: Alouette

Right off I think of Dan and Bethel but may not be thinking what you're thinking of. I was just thinking of Judea and Samaria.

I know that King David captured Jerusalem from the Jebusites in 1004 B.C.

Hebron was where David was crowned king I've heard.


36 posted on 09/23/2005 11:26:07 AM PDT by F15Eagle (Epistle of James 2:5-6, 12-18, 20, 22, 24)
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To: F15Eagle

King David (God his rest his blessed soul) was king of Judah in Hevron and then led the United Kingdom of Israel from Jerusalem.


37 posted on 09/23/2005 11:45:51 AM PDT by jonatron
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To: F15Eagle

The 3rd and 4th cities are Tzefat (Safed) and Tiberias.


38 posted on 09/23/2005 11:52:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: Alouette

Interesting. Thanks.


39 posted on 09/23/2005 11:57:06 AM PDT by F15Eagle (Epistle of James 2:5-6, 12-18, 20, 22, 24)
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To: F15Eagle

King Saul was un-anointed in Gilgal (site not definitely known today), and I Sam. 16 indicates David was chosen in or near Bethlehem.


40 posted on 09/23/2005 12:02:22 PM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: F15Eagle

http://www.safed.co.il/

"...according to the great mystics of the past, Safed is to play an important role in the final redemption. The Meam Loez, in the name of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, says that the Messiah will come from Safed on his way to Jerusalem. The Ari HaKodesh said that until the Third Temple is built, the Shechinah (God's Manifest Presence) rests above Safed.

Its past is also rich and great. According to legend, Safed is where Shem and Ever, son and grandson of Noah, established their yeshiva where Jacob (Yaakov Avinu) studied for many years. According to other sources, the town was founded in 70AD.

The city flourished in the 16th century, when many famous Jewish religious scholars and mystics moved to Safed following the Spanish Expulsion,, fleeing from the horrors of the Inquisition.

Safed then became the spiritual center of the Jewish world, where Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) reached the peak of its influence. Kabbalists, such as Rabbi Yitzhak Luria (Ha-Ari HaKadosh) and Rabbi Shlomo Alkabetz (author of Lecha Dodi) and Rabbi Yosef Karo (author of the Shulchan Aruch) just to name a few, made the city famous. It was here that the first printing press in the Middle East was set up, publishing in 1578 the first Hebrew book to be printed in Israel. At that time the town was also a thriving trade center.

However, Safed suffered terribly during the ensuing years due to earthquakes, plagues and Arab attacks. In modern times, the liberation of Safed was one of the most dramatic episodes in the 1948 War of Independence.

Safed is one of the four holy cities in Israel, together with Jerusalem, Hebron and Tiberias."


41 posted on 09/23/2005 12:16:25 PM PDT by SeriousSassy (I know manure when I step in it!)
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To: goldstategop

Please enlighten us as to what you consider qualifies as the Jewish Bible.


42 posted on 09/23/2005 12:55:48 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: jonatron

If I forget thee, Oh Jerusalem, lat my right hand lose its cunning.


43 posted on 09/23/2005 1:32:19 PM PDT by dervish (no excuses)
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And what "religious right" does the "Hashemite Kingdom" have to 80% of the Palestinian Mandate?

Exactly. About the same as the "palestinians" have to 3/4 of what was left over after Jordan was created!

As to the "palestinians" ...

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism." --- PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein on March 31, 1977

44 posted on 09/23/2005 1:36:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Alouette

Jordan has no Religious right to Jordan. And God is going to pry that land out of their cold dead fingers within the next five years. (Isaiah 15, Zephaniah 2) So the "King" of Jordan can just go pound sand for all I care.


45 posted on 09/23/2005 1:59:54 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jonatron

The official Jordanian body referred to Sharon's statements documenting the Jewish People's historic right to Jerusalem as untrue, calling it "full of lies and untruths," questioning how the international body permits a "war criminal" to make "false claims" regarding the holy city.


Drop an Atom Bomb on them...that will shut them up.


46 posted on 09/23/2005 4:27:37 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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47 posted on 09/23/2005 8:04:15 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: M. Espinola
The rotten bastards in Amman acting like pre-1967 animals.

Despicable human garbage. More like pre-historic animals.

48 posted on 09/23/2005 8:22:40 PM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: jonatron

Yes they do. Even if you don't believe that, it is their country, therefore their business.


49 posted on 09/23/2005 8:25:22 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: SJackson

Perhaps Muslims have no right to claim Mecca as a holy shrine. Or the temple mount. Eh Jordan? How does that grab ya?


50 posted on 09/23/2005 8:26:45 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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