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Disaster aid urged for illegal migrants
Riverside Press-Enterprise ^
| 9/23/05
| Michael Fisher
Posted on 09/23/2005 9:31:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Bishop Gerald Barnes, leader of the Diocese of San Bernardino, is urging federal legislators to extend disaster aid to illegal immigrants uprooted by Hurricane Katrina, and not to deport undocumented immigrants who fled the storm-ravaged Gulf Coast.
"Now is the time to serve our common humanity and not discriminate against victims of the disaster because they are not U.S. citizens," Barnes, the chairman of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Committee on Migration, said in a Tuesday letter to federal lawmakers.
"Like U.S. citizens, noncitizens have suffered from the hurricane and its aftermath, having lost their loved ones, their homes, jobs, and possessions. The relief they need is commensurate with the relief needed by U.S. citizens affected by the disaster, but they are in danger of being overlooked," Barnes wrote.
Undocumented and nonimmigrant workers are eligible for noncash, in-kind emergency disaster relief such as food and shelter and emergency medical care, according to the Federal Emergency Management Agency. But federal rules do not allow illegal immigrants to receive other federal aid unless a member of their family, such as a child, is a citizen, FEMA officials said.
After the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the federal government announced that undocumented immigrants could apply for federal aid without fear that their names would be turned over to law enforcement. There are no immediate plans to renew that assurance for hurricane victims, said Joanna Gonzalez, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security.
"Right now, the priority is to provide immediate assistance to all victims: Food, water, medical care, shelter, crisis counseling, disaster legal services," Gonzalez said.
Barnes' letter comes amid a handful of reports of hurricane evacuees in Texas and elsewhere being taken into custody or ordered to appear at deportation hearings. Lori Haley, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Southern California, said no illegal immigrants who are evacuees have been detained in Riverside or San Bernardino counties.
Mark Krikorian, with the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., argues that illegal immigrants should be eligible for emergency aid only.
"If somebody is on a roof and the water is rising, we are morally obliged to rescue that person. We are not going to ask them for their green card," said Krikorian, whose group backs tighter immigration laws. "When it comes to helping people resettle, to find new jobs, we are morally obliged not to give that kind of assistance to illegal aliens."
Barnes also asked federal lawmakers to give hurricane victims access to food stamps and Medicaid regardless of their immigration status, and that they provide work authorizations for victims without legal status.
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KEYWORDS: aliens; diocese; disasteraid; illegal; immigrantlist; katrina; migrants; urged
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To: NormsRevenge
So sorry, but they shouldn't have been "rooted" in the first place. Uproot them all the way back to their home country.
To: craig_eddy
Cant find that anywhere in the Constitution..Any help me??
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:34:39 AM PDT
by
samadams2000
(Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
To: NormsRevenge
California needs to STFU. Illegals need to be sent home! PERIOD.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:35:07 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: NormsRevenge
I agree, we should give them some aid for those who decided to visit our country illegally. First start with a nice picture, and then provide them a one way plane ticket to Argentina (takes longer to walk back).
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:35:21 AM PDT
by
Sthitch
To: NormsRevenge
This is true - we must take care of them and I would never turn help away from anyone, regardless of nationality.
But then I'd go ahead & deport them plus send them a bill for services rendered - if they weren't here illegally in the first place, they never would need to be rescued/help.
Just like they "don't need no steeng-keeng green card", they "don't need no steeng-keeng FEMA card" either.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:35:22 AM PDT
by
Smarti Pants
(~This American Patriot will never forget !!!~)
To: NormsRevenge
Give them humanitarian aid as needed then ship them home.
7
posted on
09/23/2005 9:36:23 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: NormsRevenge
To: NormsRevenge
FREE bus ride to Mexico! That should be the extent of aid to ILLEGAL aliens
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:36:50 AM PDT
by
hombre_sincero
(www.sigmaitsys.com)
To: NormsRevenge
This is stupid. No one checks your green card at a soup line, no one is asking about anyone's immigration status at any homeless shelter, no one is asking to see your papers before handing you a blanket.
It isn't happening and it won't happen.
This is just more empty moral grandstanding by the more-moral-than-you crowd, the ones least likely to be in the trenches helping anyone.
10
posted on
09/23/2005 9:37:38 AM PDT
by
marron
To: NormsRevenge
We must be compassionate to lawbreakers? What the hell happened to withdrawing the welcome mat for them? We can't afford to take care of the world's unwanted.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:38:21 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: craig_eddy
Let the Catholic Church step up and spend their money on these criminals, yes criminals, they broke the law sneaking into the country. To rip off the taxpayers to compensate lawbreakers is a travesty. The Church needs purification from dopes like this...
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:38:32 AM PDT
by
aspiring.hillbilly
(!...The Confederate States of America rises again...!)
To: NormsRevenge; Peach; Howlin
You've gotta be kiddin' me. Just yesterday they were talking about cutting military health benefits (supposedly voluntary, but...) to pay for Katrina damage. Why? So these ILLEGALS can receive aid?
Not only NO, but H*LL no to this obscene plan.
13
posted on
09/23/2005 9:39:46 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: NormsRevenge
Bishop Gerald Barnes, leader of the Diocese of San Bernardino... Why doesn't the Diocese of San Bernardino kick in some money?
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:40:30 AM PDT
by
Cowboy Bob
(Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
To: NormsRevenge
I will give them food and water if they need it and emergency medical help should they require it. I will also provide them with a ticket back to where they came from. I will not build them a house, or buy them a car, or give them a green card.
To: Cowboy Bob
Better yet, send them all to Rome. Let the Vatican deal with them.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:41:26 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: marron
You have a right to your opinion,, and when disaster strikes in your area and no one has anything left to assist you and yours... what then?
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:41:29 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
To: NormsRevenge
I agree. These illegals should get some relief. Let old humanitarian, compassionate Mr. Fox give it to them.
To: NormsRevenge
"Now is the time to serve our common humanity and not discriminate against victims of the disaster because they are not U.S. citizens," Barnes, the chairman of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Committee on Migration, said in a Tuesday letter to federal lawmakers. discriminate
- To perceive the distinguishing features of; recognize as distinct: discriminate right from wrong.
- To distinguish by noting differences; differentiate: unable to discriminate colors.
- To make or constitute a distinction in or between: methods that discriminate science from pseudoscience.
Discrimination is a perfectly acceptable form of behavior in this case. We are "discriminating" between criminals and noncriminals not race/creed/color. Spending relief funds on criminal aliens takes money away from citizens and those who are here by permission.
To: marron
You know, you're right!
I haven't seen any helicopter pilot stop anyone to ask "are you a legal US citizen & can you prove it" before bringing anyone up out of those waters.
When the same happens later today & tomorrow, I doubt they'll stop & ask then either.
What planet is that nut-job living on that he couldn't see what we all saw?
After the fact is a different story! In those FEMA lines - THEN, we'll send them home. Why on earth should we spend OUR tax money on illegals skirting the law & blatantly thumbing their noses at us?
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:42:15 AM PDT
by
Smarti Pants
(~This American Patriot will never forget !!!~)
To: Cowboy Bob
Why doesn't the Diocese of San Bernardino kick in some money?
---
massive settlements to victims for priest abuse?
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:42:49 AM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
To: NormsRevenge
Mark Krikorian, with the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., argues that illegal immigrants should be eligible for emergency aid only. "If somebody is on a roof and the water is rising, we are morally obliged to rescue that person. We are not going to ask them for their green card," said Krikorian, whose group backs tighter immigration laws. "When it comes to helping people resettle, to find new jobs, we are morally obliged not to give that kind of assistance to illegal aliens."Emergency aid only. Contact their country of origin to arrange transportation and payment back to their country.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:43:16 AM PDT
by
afnamvet
To: NormsRevenge
Free one way bus ticket to Mexico.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:45:21 AM PDT
by
Travis McGee
(--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
To: Conspiracy Guy
California needs to STFU. Illegals need to be sent home! PERIOD.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:49:43 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Gouge the gougers! Embrace a state controlled economy.)
To: Protagoras
LOL. I should have narrowed it to the Bishop rather than ALL of CALIFORNIA. But I like broad brushes.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:53:00 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: NormsRevenge
Religious, soft-hearted nutcases are going to be the death of us yet.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:56:27 AM PDT
by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: Conspiracy Guy
I love that picture, I post it every time I get the chance.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:57:06 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Gouge the gougers! Embrace a state controlled economy.)
To: NormsRevenge
The only "aid" that should be extended to illegal immigrants is to escort them to the border of the country through which they entered, and warn them that terrible storms threaten the United States, and they enter this country again only at great personal risk. Please respect these forces of nature.
Tell them that God is punishing America, and for their own safety, stand well away. They will believe.
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posted on
09/23/2005 9:58:00 AM PDT
by
alloysteel
("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
To: Protagoras
Glad I could give you a segway.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:00:45 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: Old Professer
I won't contribute to his annual Bishop's Appeal.
To: NormsRevenge
Incarcerate and deport them to their country of origin and they wouldn't need taxpayers aid.
To: Conspiracy Guy
Glad I could give you a segway.No thanks, they look dangerous to me and I can't figure out where I would ride it.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:08:00 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Gouge the gougers! Embrace a state controlled economy.)
To: Protagoras
The dumbest vehicle ever made.
33
posted on
09/23/2005 10:10:41 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: Travis McGee
.....let the Mexican Army take 'em out on their trucks when THEY leave......no cost to the taxpayer....
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:11:25 AM PDT
by
telstar1
To: MizSterious
"Not only NO, but H*LL no to this obscene plan."Ditto. It's insane.
"Rita" should put an even bigger strain on our capabilities to take care of our "own" citizens.
We need to deport the Illegal refugees back to Mexico and let Vincente Fox take care of his own people.
sw
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:13:00 AM PDT
by
spectre
(Spectre's wife)
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...
To: gubamyster
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Support our Minutemen Patriots!
Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:14:13 AM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: gubamyster; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
How President Bush handles this request to grant amnesty to illegal aliens during this national crisis will set a far-reaching precedent for immigration reform.
Crucial.
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Bishop Gerald Barnes, leader of the Diocese of San Bernardino, is urging federal legislators to extend disaster aid to illegal immigrants uprooted by Hurricane Katrina, and not to deport undocumented immigrants who fled the storm-ravaged Gulf Coast.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:18:03 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
To: craig_eddy; NormsRevenge; gubamyster
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:19:40 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
To: Conspiracy Guy
I actually own this contraption.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:20:13 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Gouge the gougers! Embrace a state controlled economy.)
To: NormsRevenge
To Bishop Barnes,
F*CK illegal aliens, and f*ck you too.
Sincerely,
trubluolyguy
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:20:29 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
To: gubamyster
I think all the churches should offer to fill their halls, and buildings with those illegals if they want to be THAT friendly.
I can see us offering food and water to live as they made it back to the border (at most), but that is just me.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:20:41 AM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Happy2BMe
Bishop Gerald Barnes, leader of the Diocese of San Bernardino
And this is a bishop of the real Roman Catholic Church, not some group like the pro-gay Catholic associations?
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:23:39 AM PDT
by
Das Outsider
(I'll rassle ya fer it!)
To: Das Outsider
See #39.
The Catholic Church in the United States is in concert with the Catholic Church in Mexico to goad this country into merging with Mexico.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:26:56 AM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
To: NormsRevenge
Actually their countries of origin should pay
for them...
Especially since Mexico openly promotes illegal invasion.
imo
To: joesnuffy
Yeah, in fact, these people should sue the Mexican government for encouraging them to come to such a dangerous country!
susie
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:29:27 AM PDT
by
brytlea
(All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
To: Protagoras
My father in law has one of those. It is fun to ride. And good exercise
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:41:04 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
To: NormsRevenge
SEMPER FI back to you MAC! Your home page is great. I was stationed at MCAS KANEOHE HAWAII '69 - '72.
Regards,
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:41:05 AM PDT
by
AMERIKA
(M-14)
To: Conspiracy Guy
My father in law has one of those. It is fun to ride. And good exercise.We've had a lot of fun with it but when gas gets to $5 a gallon, I'm going to put a "for sale" sign on it and get all my money back. Nuttin like a little panic so you have a good market to sell into. :^}
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:44:29 AM PDT
by
Protagoras
(Gouge the gougers! Embrace a state controlled economy.)
To: Protagoras
Get some solar panels and electrify that puppy.
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posted on
09/23/2005 10:49:03 AM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ponce de Leon is coming here to look for the fountain of dumb. DC is his first stop.)
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