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TOP PAKISTANI ANTI-TERROR OFFICIALS BELIEVE BIN LADEN HOLED UP IN AFGHANISTAN WITH LESS THAN 10 MEN
Drudge Report ^ | September 23, 2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 09/23/2005 11:28:24 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: West Coast Conservative
There are a lot of misunderstandings here in this forum.

Let me make a few points, please.

  1. Pervez Musharraf has gone way out on a limb for us (for himself too, but he's out on that limb, we're not).

  2. More Pakistani soldiers than Americans have died in the GWOT. Most of them fighting Pashtun tribesmen.

  3. You just cannot believe how rugged the terrain is there till you walk it yourself.

  4. The border betwen Afghanistan and Pakistan, the Durand Line, is entirely an artificial construct, and it follows no natural terrain features, nor does it follow borders between tribes or ethnic groups.

  5. The elite of Pakistan's army have always come from the Pathan minority.

I'm not saying that Pak is a garden spot, or Musharraf suddenly became the Platonic ideal of philosopher-king on September 11th. But the leader, and the majority of his people, side with us.

Now, as far as Bint Laden is concerned,

  1. He ain't stupid, just evil. That's why he's reduced his signature from the 2001/02 motorcades. The turn of the century approach will get him killed.

  2. It is a mistake to assume that people are not watching for OBL and other high-value targets (such as Mullah Mohammed Omar and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar). Yes, there are some problems (mostly related to the humongous bureaucracy that is part and parcel of deploying conventional Army forces).

  3. Sometimes it takes a decade or two to hunt a guy down. It took 17 years to get Ted Kaczynski, and that was in the middle of our own country! We had Japanese intelligence officers still coming out of the woodwork in the 1970s in the Phillipines and Okinawa.

The bottom line is, Bin Laden is a dead man walking. And he is walking around in a very circumscribed area. He can hide indefinitely there -- as long as he doesn't do anything.

The room-temp IQs of TV news actresses think that this means he's winning -- that's because they were raised on a diet of straight television where everything is wrapped up before the last commercial break and the titles.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

61 posted on 09/23/2005 2:38:25 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: West Coast Conservative

BREAKING....BIN LADEN FOUND WALKING AIMLESSLY ALONG GALVESTON SEAWALL.....CHANTING OATHS TO ALLAH TO BLESS HURRICANE RITA.


62 posted on 09/23/2005 4:56:58 PM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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To: democrats_nightmare

Anyone wanna bet that this is more of a hit piece on Bush rather than a where is Bin Laden story.

Anyway, "Where is Bin Laden?" He's hiding and no one, other than his biggest supporters, know where he is, that's where.


63 posted on 09/23/2005 6:33:05 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: West Coast Conservative

So when's the Last Supper?


64 posted on 09/23/2005 6:33:58 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: West Coast Conservative

IMHO, bin Laden is dead and has been for several years!!!


65 posted on 09/23/2005 6:52:46 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: ken5050

Jim McDermott should be on the list.


66 posted on 09/23/2005 6:55:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: West Coast Conservative
Finding bin Laden doesn't matter at this point, believes Lt. Gen. Safdar Hussain

Tis true! If OBL is apprehended, then it will be either "took too long," or else "Boosh had him all along and just trotted him out to prop up sagging numbers."

67 posted on 09/23/2005 7:12:19 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: eeriegeno
IMHO, bin Laden is dead and has been for several years!!!

Well you are flat out wrong - UBL is very much alive and everyone from the CIC to the NCO's hunting his as$ are 100% assure of this -

There was a short period of time between late Nov 2001 and March of 2002 when the possibility of UBL being dead was seriously thought - However late in the spring of 2002 undeniable evidence was obtained (?) which verified UBL was very much alive - (as is Al Zawahiri, Mullah Omar and another four or five HVT's in the Afghan/Pak border region).

Additionally UBL put out an 2 hour long video prior to the 2004 Presidential election speaking clearly of this election and John Kerry (UBL didn't have a clue who John Kerry was in 2001-2).

UBL is very much alive and very much being hunted -

68 posted on 09/23/2005 7:16:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix; Rutles4Ever

Look at it this way.... We can't even tell if we knew where Muhammad Atta was before 9/11....in Florida. It's not hard to believe that the US government is too slow to nab a fast moving one legged thug in a huge city (Zarqawi), and a slow moving thug in a remote cave (UBL.)


69 posted on 09/23/2005 7:19:30 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: oceanview; Dog
is ASA Vet the "he's dead, Jim" guy?

No, I'm not. I don't believe I ever posted a "he's dead, Jim."

I have issued several Elvis Bin Laden Posting Awards, but not many recently.


70 posted on 09/23/2005 8:04:09 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Osama Bin Laden Al Khanzier)
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To: DevSix

I try to tell people the same and get mostly blank stares. How long did it take to get the Unabomber? How many fugutives on the US Marshals 15 most wanted have been on the lam for over ten years? Or Rudy what's his name, the loon who bombed the Atlanta olympics? These are folks in our own backyard, for pete's sake, but oh, woe is us, we haven't gotten Osama yet. We must be such doofuses. Fact is, if you're careful and determined, and have even a handful of people to help you, you can disappear. Period.

Nevertheless, I'll be celebrating when Dead has to give up his tagline ("I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar").


71 posted on 09/23/2005 9:27:07 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar (Islam is the opiate of the people)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Heres what he should do: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/affacts/big-bomb.mpa


72 posted on 09/23/2005 9:59:28 PM PDT by Cougar66
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To: DevSix

Thank you DevSix. Great post.


73 posted on 09/24/2005 3:33:23 PM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (There are no short cuts to any place worth going.)
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