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Keep your hands off our Kilkenny, Waterford City warned
Irish Examiner, Cork ^ | Sept 24, 2005 | Neans McSweeney

Posted on 09/24/2005 6:58:49 PM PDT by Murtyo

SEVEN thousand furious Kilkenny people have penned letters to Waterford City Council warning it to keep its hands off their land.

The letters, petitions and coupons from the Kilkenny People Newspaper and statements of anger were delivered to City Hall in Waterford yesterday by a delegation led by Kilkenny-based Fine Gael TD Phil Hogan and Fianna Fáil councillor Bobby Aylward.

A further 600 submissions, the bulk of which oppose the extension, have been logged by City Hall officials.

Under the extension proposal, 5,000 acres, 20 townlands and about 5,000 people would now find themselves living in a suburb of Waterford city rather than south Kilkenny.

Mr Aylward is a staunch Kilkenny man and has threatened to sell up and move rather than become a Waterford man. He claims there are many people who feel as passionately about the issue as himself.

“Under no circumstance will we stand back and allow this to happen. The area in question is the second fastest growing area outside of Kilkenny city. It now has a population of 5,000 but it is anticipated that it will grow to between 17,000 and 18,000.

“Kilkenny County Council has put a lot of resources into Belview Port, into zoning and planning permission in the area. It’s a strategic, industrial area and its loss to Kilkenny would be catastrophic.”

He said Kilkenny County Council has six months to reply to the proposed extension and has engaged two consultants to back up the objections voiced by people living in the region.

Fine Gael’s Phil Hogan said the campaign of opposition to the proposed boundary extension has gathered steam in recent weeks. While Waterford City Council says it makes sense for the area to become part of Waterford, Deputy Hogan says people will fight to remain part of Kilkenny.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: annexations; government; ireland; kilkenny; localgovernment; loyalty; people; place; territory; waterford
in Ireland recently as cities have grown they've moved to annex areas, sometimes areas that belong to other counties. In Ireland counties are tied very closely to identity - people feel very strongly with their home county - sports is organized by county. Here's a story about Waterford City (home of the famous Crystal) trying to annex part of Kilkenny (home of the famous ???) due to recent expansion of the city into the county.
1 posted on 09/24/2005 6:58:50 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

The famous "Kilkenney cats", of course. Famous for what I have forgotteen.


2 posted on 09/24/2005 7:09:57 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Murtyo

Ah, here we go. "Q] From Steve Cohen, Virginia, USA: “Could you please tell me what the expression play Kilkenny cats means?”
[A] I know it in the form fight like Kilkenny cats. This refers to an old story about two cats that fought to the death and ate each other up so that only their tails were left. It’s a battle that goes on until both sides have been destroyed, an all-out, no-holds-barred fight to the finish. It’s often used figuratively of two people who are vehemently opposed in attitudes or opinions to the extent that they will never agree and will spark fire off each other whenever they meet.
The idea has been summed up in this limerick:
There once were two cats from Kilkenny
Each thought there was one cat too many.
So they fought and they fit
And they scratched and they bit
And instead of two cats, there ain't any!"


3 posted on 09/24/2005 7:14:02 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome
http://www.kilkennycats.com/
4 posted on 09/24/2005 7:19:33 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: dynachrome

5 posted on 09/24/2005 7:22:25 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

field hockey?


6 posted on 09/24/2005 7:27:37 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Murtyo

Am I the only one who thinks there is a South Park joke in here somewhere?


7 posted on 09/24/2005 7:27:39 PM PDT by Nik Naym
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To: Nik Naym

You're the first to say it outloud!!


8 posted on 09/24/2005 7:35:31 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: dynachrome

Hurling - http://images.google.com/images?q=hurling&hl=en&hs=bNg&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi


9 posted on 09/24/2005 7:36:07 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

Looks like I better be careful what I say to those guys! Hurling it is.


10 posted on 09/24/2005 7:39:17 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Murtyo

Let me guess - - this "annexation" trend in Ireland is taking place for the same reason that the socialist liberal Democrats in America want "regionalization" - - so that corrupt city pols can reach their filthy fingers into suburban wallets and grab more taxes for buying the votes of the cities' parasite class. Am I right?


11 posted on 09/24/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Murtyo

Isn't Kilkenny famous for the castle?


12 posted on 09/24/2005 7:47:57 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Lancey Howard

not sure, but I'm sure there's money in there some place!!


13 posted on 09/24/2005 7:49:05 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
you mean this little thing -
14 posted on 09/24/2005 7:51:40 PM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

I visited Kilkenny Castle in July and thought Kilkenny is a charming historic town.


15 posted on 09/24/2005 7:55:51 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: dynachrome
Intro to hurling Appears to be an interesting sport.
16 posted on 09/24/2005 8:25:39 PM PDT by indcons (Koran - The World's First WMD)
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To: Murtyo

What's this?! People in Ireland having their land taken away from them??
Nothing to see here folks, move along now.


17 posted on 09/24/2005 9:06:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (Rock beats scissors. Don't run with rocks. NRA)
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To: Murtyo; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...

Belated ping.


18 posted on 10/06/2005 3:18:29 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: evilC; Happygal

ping!


19 posted on 10/06/2005 3:20:12 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite; Murtyo

Ha! Won't be long 'til everyone in Ireland is a Dub!!

And as for Kilkenny, it's where the best beer in the world originated. Smithwicks!

A special thank you to Anheiser Bush for exporting Smithwicks to the USA after all these many years of my mother in law bringing it over in her suitcase!


20 posted on 10/06/2005 5:24:38 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Murtyo; dynachrome; Irish_Thatcherite
Famous for what?

Kilkenny have probably the finest hurling team in Ireland.

BTW, you must also remember that Waterford is in the province of Munster NOT Leinster. Big bleedin' deal for the ol' football and hurling championships.

21 posted on 10/06/2005 7:45:56 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: dynachrome
Field hockey?

How very dare you!

22 posted on 10/06/2005 7:48:11 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Murtyo

I have to see a hurling match sometime.


23 posted on 10/06/2005 9:00:47 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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To: Happygal

I have been spanked for that already!


24 posted on 10/07/2005 11:03:49 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Incorrigible; Murtyo; Happygal; Colosis
Ha! Won't be long 'til everyone in Ireland is a Dub!!

Bleeding Hell!

And as for Kilkenny, it's where the best beer in the world originated. Smithwicks!

I'm a Smithwicks man meself!

.....Anheiser Bush.....

It's Anheiser Bush's fault!!!!!!!!!

25 posted on 10/07/2005 5:45:27 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Happygal; Colosis
Kilkenny have probably the finest hurling team in Ireland.

Come on the Cats!

26 posted on 10/07/2005 5:46:51 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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