Skip to comments.NY Times Admits Fabricating News - Again
Posted on 09/25/2005 10:42:45 AM PDT by wagglebee
The mainstream media's newspaper of record admitted late Saturday that one of its reporters fabricated part of a news story on Hurricane Katrina relief.
Saying his paper "flunked" the test of basic journalistic fairness, New York Times public editor Byron Calame said Alessandra Stanley's Sept. 5 report claiming that the Fox News Channel's Geraldo Rivera "nudged" an Air Force relief worker out of the way so he could film himself rescuing a Katrina victim had been made up out of whole cloth.
"Since Ms. Stanley based her comments on what she saw on the screen Sept. 4, the videotape of that segment means everyone involved is looking at exactly the same evidence," Calame noted.
"My viewings of the videotape - at least a dozen times, including one time frame by frame - simply doesn't show me any 'nudge' of any Air Force rescuer by Mr. Rivera," the Times internal watchdog said, adding, "Ms. Stanley declined my invitation to watch the tape with me."
Times editor Bill Keller, however, is still standing by Ms. Stanley's bogus report. He told Calame that she was "writing as a critic, with the license that title brings - [and] was within bounds in her judgment."
"Ms. Stanley's point was that Mr. Rivera was show-boating - that he was being pushy, if not literally pushing - and I think an impartial viewer of the footage will see it that way," Keller insisted.
But Calame countered: "Ms. Stanley certainly would have been entitled to opine that Mr. Rivera's actions were showboating or pushy. But a 'nudge' is a fact, not an opinion. And even critics need to keep facts distinct from opinions."
Stanley's bogus report continues a pattern at the Old Gray Lady of making up the news.
Two weeks ago, columnist Paul Krugman was forced to admit that he falsely claimed media recounts in Florida showed Al Gore winning the 2000 presidential election. In August, a Times profile of Hillary Clinton changed a quote first reported by NewsMax where Clinton said she was "adamantly opposed to illegal immigrants."
In the toned down Times version, Clinton's opposition was to "illegal immigration" rather than the immigrants themselves.
I wonder if the Old Gray Whore realizes how transparent they have become.
The fact that Jerry was talking lawsuit didn't have anything to do with this?
They just don't care and never will. A true liar will never stop.
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise...
"I wonder if the Old Gray Whore realizes how transparent they have become."
If they don't, their advertisers do. Didn't the OGW just layoff another 500 employees?
NYT has already flunked OUT of "journalism".
"Old Grey Lady, have you no shame?"
I don't like Geraldo either. He's as much of a wh*ore as the NYT. That said, they had no right to do this to him. I hope he sues the socks off 'em.
LOL--love your second cartoon in that post! In fact, every time we get bad case of the trolls on FR, you just have to notice they can't spell, they don't know how to put a sentence together, and near as I can tell, they haven't had a rational thought in ages!
Sure did take them a long time to come clean.
Geroldo is a world-class showman, but at least he doesn't report the news by watching videotapes.
He goes out and does some real reporting.
I wonder why we haven't seen things like this in the news..I guess because they don't want the country to see what the democrats have raised..Long but worth reading..I have this doctors name but won't put it up here..
Subject: View of N.O. -- from a Doctor
The following from a Mississippi MD:
I am going to tell it straight, blunt, raw, and I don't give a damn. Long read, I know but please do read.
I went to volunteer on Saturday at the George R. Brown convention for two reasons:
A: I wanted to help people to get a warm fuzzy.
I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that have made me
want to vomit. And no it wasn't dead bodies, the city under water, or the
sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLE"S BEHAVIOR. The people on T. V. (99% being
Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not asking nicely but demanding as
if society owed these people something. Well the honest truth is WE DON'T.
Help should be asked for in a kind manner and then appreciated. This is not
what the press (FOX in particular) was showing. What I was seeing was a
group of people who are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping, and
SHOOTING back at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't possibly
be true can it???? So I decide to submit to the DEMAND for help out of
SHOCK. I couldn't believe this to be true of the majority of the people who
are the weakest of society. So I went to volunteer and help folks out and
see the truth. So I will tell the following story and you decide:
I arrived at the Astrodome only to find out that there are too many
volunteers and that volunteers were needed at the George R. Brown
Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention Center I noticed a
line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with donations. These where
ordinary Houstonians coming with truckloads and trunks full of water,
diapers, clothes, blankets, food, all types of good stuff. And lots of it
I felt that warm fuzzy while helping unload these vehicles of
these wonderful human beings. I then went inside the building and noticed
approximately 100,000 sq. ft. of clothes, shoes, jackets, toys and all
types of goodies all organized and ready for the people in need. I signed
up, received a name badge and was on my merry way excited to be useful.
I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; the entire place is
probably around 2 million sq. ft. I noticed rows as far as the eye can see
of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!! All of which had nice
pillows and plenty of blankets. 2 to 3 bottles of water lay on every bed.
These full size to queen size beds by the way were comfortable, I laid in
one to see for myself. I went to look at the medical area. I couldn't
believe what my eyes were seeing!!! A makeshift hospital created in 24
hours!!! It was unbelievable, they even had a pharmacy. I also noticed that
they created showers, which would also have hot water. I went upstairs to
the third floor to find a HUGE cafeteria created in under 24 hours! Rows of
tables, chairs and food everywhere - enough to feed an army! I'm not
talking about crap food either. They had Jason's deli food, apples,
oranges, coke, diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, all types of
chips and sandwiches.
All the beverages by the way was put on ice and chilled. In a matter of
about 24 hours or less an entire mini-city was erected by volunteers for the
poor evacuees. This was not your rundown crap shelter, it was BUM HEAVEN.
So that was the layout: great food, comfy beds, clean showers, free medical
help. By the way, there was a library and a theatre room I forgot to mention.
Great stuff, right?
Well here is what happened on my journey -
I started by handing out COLD water bottles to evacuees as they got off the
bus. Many would take them and only 20% or less said thank you. Lots of them
would shake their heads and ask for sodas! So this went on for about 20-30
minutes until I was sick of being an unappreciated servant. I figured certainly
these folks would appreciate some food!!! So I went upstairs to serve these
beloved evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have at the moment.
***The following statements are graphic, truthful, and discuss UNRATIONAL behavior***
Evacuees come slowly to receive this mountain of food that is worth serving
to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types of great deli sandwiches to
choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the food in disgust and DEMAND
burgers, pizza, and even McDonalds. Jason's deli is better than McDonalds!
Only 1 out of ten people who took something would say "thank
you" the rest took items as if it was their God given right to be served
without a shred of appreciation!!! They would ask for beer and liquor. They
complained that we didn't have good enough food. They refused food and
laughed at us. They treated us volunteers as if we where SLAVES. No, not all
of them of course, but 70% did. 20% were appreciative, 10% took the
food without any comment and the other 70% had some disgusting comment to
say. Some had the nerve to laugh at us. And when I snapped back at them for
being mean, they would curse at me.
Needless to say I was in utter shock.
They would eat their food and leave their mess on the table. Some would
pick up their stuff; many would leave it for the volunteers to pick up. I
left that real quick to go down and help set up some more beds. I saw many
young ladies carrying mattresses and I helped for a while.
Then I realized something.
There were hundreds of able bodied young men who could help! I
asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and early twenties to help.
I got cursed at for asking them to help!!! One said "We just lost our
fucking homes and you want us to work!!" The next said "Ya Cracker, you got
a home we don't". I looked at them in disbelief. Here are women walking by
carrying THEIR BEDS and they can't lift a finger and help themselves!
WHY SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP THEMESELVES?
I waved them off and turned away and was laughed at and more. "White boy
jokes" were made at me. I felt no need to waste my breath on a bunch of
pitiful losers. I went to a nearby restroom where I noticed a man shaving.
I used the restroom, washed my hands and saw this man throw his razor
towards the trash can... he missed. He walked out leaving his disgusting
razor on the floor for some "cracker" to pick up. Even the little kids were
demanding. I saw only ONE white family and only TWO Hispanic families.
The rest were blacks. Sorry, 20% to 30% decent blacks and 70% LOSERS.
I would call them N*****S, but the actual definition of a n*****r is one
who is ignorant. These people were not ignorant.. they where ARROGANT
ASSHOLES. The majority of which are thugs and lifetime lazy ass welfare
recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low to Houston. And like
idiots we are serving the people who will soon steal our cars, rape,
murder, and destroy our city while stealing from our pockets on a daily
basis through the welfare checks they take. We will fund our own destruction.
By "US" I don't mean a specific race, I mean the people who work hard, work
smart, have values and morals. Only people who want to help themselves
should be helped, the others should be allowed to destroy themselves. I do
not want to work hard, give the government close to half the money I earn
so they can in turn give it to a bunch of losers.
I don't believe in being poor for life. My family immigrated here, we came
here poor, and now thank God, and due to HARD WORK we are doing fine. If
immigrants, who come here, don't know the language, can work and become
successful... WHY CAN'T THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMEGROWN DO IT?
If we continue to reward these losers then we will soon destroy our great
country. I just witnessed selfish, arrogant, unappreciative behavior by the
very people who need help the most. Now these same people who cursed me,
refused my city's generosity, who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING
handouts on their own terms. They prance around as if they are owed
something, and when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good
enough! Well you know what? These types of people can go to hell for all I care.
It is clear that the Times has one editor who is honest and able on at least one occasion. I therefore apologize to anyone who was misled by my excessive criticism of this "great" newspaper. (Click below.)
Wonder if this will have any effect on Geronimo's lawsuit? I doubt it, since the whole thing smells like a publicity stunt. Still, I'm with geronimo on this one, and usually I can't stand him.
Even my furbabies recognized this long ago. They won't accept the Times in their presence...
My favorite... and I love the little detail at the bottom right "by Sean Penn"!
This is your mind on drugs...
You remain correct.
The interesting thing about this story is that no matter who you believe, somebody at the NY Times is lying to the public.
If NY Times editor Byron Calame is right, then Times reporter Alessandra Stanley fabricated the story. If Times editor Bill Keller is right, then Times editor Byron Calame is lying. They're losing their credibility and relevence faster than you can say "Al Gore".
Urban legend. Go to Snopes.com. An excerpt:
"My name is Richard L. Johnston. I'm the physician who allegedly wrote the long email about my experience at the George R. Brown Convention Center in Houston where Katrina evacuees from New Orleans were housed.
I've never been to the George R. Brown Convention Center, and I have not been to Houston in more than 10 years. During the crisis of the last two weeks, I've been here in Jackson, Mississippi, taking care of evacuees from the Gulf Coast transferred to our VA Medical Center here where I'm the chief medical resident.
I did not write the email about the Brown Convention Center, but I did receive it and did forward it to several friends. The forwarded message included my signature block and that's why it was assumed that I wrote the email. However, in forwarding the message, I made a very bad error in judgment, and I deeply apologize for any hurt or discomfort I've caused others by doing so.
I've learned a hard and difficult lesson and I hope those of you who read this have also. Too much of what we all mindlessly forward through cyberspace can only be termed fictious, unsubstantiated trash. The appropriate receptacle is a garbage can."
And these people are deluded enough to think that future generations will consider them factual. What a joke!
"Ms. Stanley's point was that Mr. Rivera was show-boating - that he was being pushy, if not literally pushing - and I think an impartial viewer of the footage will see it that way," Keller insisted.]
-- Oh Brother! What BS!
From "A Streetcar Named Deceit":
I dont want realism. I want magic!....Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell truths. I tell what ought to be truth."
What the rag doesn't say is that it pulls similiar BS.
Wow, talk about choosing the lesser of two evils; as much as I despise Geraldo, I despise the NYT more.
I should have checked snoops..I can tell you thought a lot of the stuff that was in this email is true..My sisters friends worked there and at the astrodome and said that they were really sick and tired of some of these peoples attitudes..
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions; but everyone is not entitled to their own facts.
- Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan
That and, judging from their recent layoffs, the Times doesn't have the cash to pay lawyers to tie this up.
Funny though...this admission comes out on Saturday (when few read it). Why don't they can Alexandra Stanley's immediate editor who said last week her characterization was truthful? He's obviously proven himself unqualified to be in that position.
The admission was printed on a Sunday.
The Newsmax article at the top of this thread says this:
The mainstream media's newspaper of record admitted late Saturday that one of its reporters fabricated part of a news story on Hurricane Katrina relief.
I have not seen the printed version but I didn't see this admission on the home page of the website.
Alessandra Stanley's problem is one of status. As a card carrying presstitute writing for the OGW, she doesn't understand what happens on the outside of her Ivory Tower.
Such things as being near or on a real helicopter, actually seeing and smelling the event and touching the persons involved is far from her concept of reality. When reality fails to register, her jelousy towards the unwashed reporters in the field takes hold and her mind compensates with fiction.
Louisiana is out there somewhere in flyover country and matters not to the real Americans residing in the City.
Judgement exercised by a (useful idiot) lib is always questionable and usually wrong.
LOL a good one to save for special occasions
I'm sure. That's what makes these types of e-mails ring true because they do have a lot of truths in them.
>> he fact that Jerry was talking lawsuit didn't
>> have anything to do with this?
> That and, judging from their recent layoffs, the Times
> doesn't have the cash to pay lawyers to tie this up.
However, the Ombud's op-ed does not necessarily rise to
the standard of a retraction, much less an apology, and
it's clear that officially, the NYT is standing by, that
is, repeating the libel. In fact, it hurts the NYT's
posture, since one of their employees is agreeing with
the aggrieved party.
Very stupid of them, considering that Geraldo is
reportedly a lawyer, and that Fox might love the
chance to subsidize an action by him, and drain the
NYT of its remaining cash.
Why in the word is the New York Times treated as if it were a legitimate news source on FreeRepublic, while we at Christian-news-in-maine.com can only post on bloggers and Religion?
We have never once been accused of fabricating the news, we have never been accused of lying, and yet, the nytimes gets breaking news status and we get blooger status.
It was us that had a man in New Orleans right after the storm, it was us that had a team spend a week with The Good News Missson in Indianapolis, it was us that a man spend two weeks in the woods of Maine with those who are protecting the Maine/canada border from intruders.
Oh well, thanks for letting me rant,
Thank you...that was partly my point. What page was it on? And was it actually a retraction? Clearly it wasn't. The fact that Stanley's editor found nothing wrong with her statement--and clearly said so on the record--basically puts the Times in the position of standing behind it. This latest attempt at a "retraction with retracting" is no different that an Al Goresque apology of "I didn't do it and I won't do it again. It's meaningless and Jerry should continue seeking legal damages.
He finally has an opportunity to burn the Times' ass after years of criticism. I hope he uses it.
It seems the Baltimore SUN is having problems selling thier version of the news as well. For the last several weeks they have been delivering for FREE the Sunday edition to my entire neighborhood. Good thing sunday nite is paper recycle nite.
I hope Rivera sues the pants off the N.Y. Slimes and wins.
Beth, I don't believe that was written by a doctor. The education level of the writer is much too low.
I don't see it that way. I see Cellar's response to Calamity as, "So, she made it up, so what?"
I wonder if anybody else sees it my way, or am I barking mad?
Criminal Number 18F
Thanks, I was just about to call BS. Other than the fact that it is BS what does that post have to do with the origional thread?