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Documents: Getty had clues it was obtaining possibly looted art
AP ^ | Sunday September 25, 2005

Posted on 09/25/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (AP) Lawyers for the J. Paul Getty Museum have determined that half the masterpieces in its antiquities collection were bought from dealers suspected of selling artifacts embezzled from Italy, according to a published report Sunday.

Getty officials knew as early as 1985 that several of their suppliers were selling artworks that probably had been looted, but the museum continued the acquisitions, according to hundreds of documents obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

Italian authorities are demanding the return of 42 objects in the Getty collection they believe were stolen, including ancient urns, vases and a 5-foot marble statue of Apollo.

Getty's attorneys found that the museum had bought 82 artworks from dealers and galleries under investigation by Italian officials, including 54 of the 104 ancient artworks that the Getty identified as masterpieces, the Times reported.

The antiquities dealers, Giacomo Medici and Robert E. Hecht Jr., have been charged by Italian authorities with conspiring to traffic in looted antiquities. Medici, who was convicted last year and sentenced to 10 years in prison, remains free during his appeal. The trial for True and Hecht will resume in November in Rome.

In a statement released Friday, the Getty said that it had ``never knowingly acquired an object that had been illegally excavated or exported. ``

Although dealers under investigation ``have been discredited,'' the statement said, that ``does not mean that any object acquired from one of them was illegally excavated or exported.''

In a 1985 memo, Getty officials learned from Medici that three objects the museum had amassed were taken from ruins near Naples decades after Italian law made it illegal, the newspaper said. The museum completed the purchase for $10.2 million.

A year later, an acting curator accused the museum in a resignation letter of ignoring problems in the antiquities department, writing that the Getty's ``curatorial avarice'' would lead to an investigation and the return of looted artifacts.

In correspondence with Getty's chief antiquities curator Marion True, Medici and another dealer, Hecht, described artifacts they were offering in language that suggested they were illegally removed. In one letter, Hecht told True that an ancient urn was being sought by Italian police. The Getty later purchased the object.

In 1993, the Getty bought an ancient gold funerary wreath despite True's initial qualms that the piece was ``too dangerous'' to acquire. The museum later received a copy of an Interpol cable describing the item as having an ``illicit origin,'' the Times reported.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: art; getty; godsgravesglyphs; loot; looted; looters; looting

1 posted on 09/25/2005 12:57:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
Getty was a Stalin supporter and the museum is following the collective good path.
2 posted on 09/25/2005 1:01:07 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: BenLurkin
One of the views from the Getty museum in Los Angeles:


3 posted on 09/25/2005 1:04:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin
several of their suppliers were selling artworks that probably had been looted

Along with most of the beer...


4 posted on 09/25/2005 1:05:55 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Hello)
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To: BenLurkin
Another view looking almost straight back at the position of the photographer above:


5 posted on 09/25/2005 1:06:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: socal_parrot

LOL!


6 posted on 09/25/2005 1:06:32 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

I've been wanting to go to the Getty for years, but have never made it. Are they still having people park near Westwood Blvd. and be shuttled in?


7 posted on 09/25/2005 1:12:20 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Hello)
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To: socal_parrot
They have their own parking off Getty Center Drive and a tram takes visitors up the hill to the museum.
8 posted on 09/25/2005 1:18:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

The Museum wants to clear this up. It is one thing for the oligarchy to bring art to the laboring masses, but if the masses also detect a whiff of illegality--something they suspect at the cellular level when it comes to corporations--the purpose of the museum is cancelled out.


9 posted on 09/25/2005 1:21:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: ncountylee
Are you sure your not thinking of Armand Hammer?
(Who was a financial angel to the Algore SR. family)
10 posted on 09/25/2005 1:27:38 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: investigateworld
"Are you sure your not thinking of Armand Hammer?"

Thanks, my bad.

11 posted on 09/25/2005 1:31:04 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Republicanprofessor

For your art ping list


12 posted on 09/25/2005 2:36:53 PM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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Art ping.

Let Sam Cree or I know if you want on or off this list.

Great post; thanks LexBaird for letting me know about it.


13 posted on 09/25/2005 5:28:42 PM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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To: BenLurkin

I was standing there yesterday. A beautiful place. Lovely stuff, that oil money.


14 posted on 09/25/2005 6:04:21 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: BenLurkin

My favourite museum in the world. I am not surprised though. The high end art world is a cesspool. The British Museum and the Louvre are also full of pillaged treasures.


15 posted on 09/25/2005 8:30:03 PM PDT by spyone
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=getty

Stark family donates 28 masterpieces to J. Paul Getty Trust
Baltimore Sun | 5/3/05 | Associated Press
Posted on 05/04/2005 6:25:48 AM EDT by Republicanprofessor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1396365/posts

Getty fattens its Rubens trove
Los Angeles Times | May 8, 2006 | Christopher Reynolds
Posted on 05/09/2006 9:42:03 AM EDT by Republicanprofessor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1629162/posts

CA: Getty Curator on Trial for Acquiring Stolen Antiquities
LA Times a paper hardly read... | 7/18/05 | Tracy Wilkinson
Posted on 07/18/2005 6:57:33 PM EDT by BurbankKarl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445583/posts

Getty to return three ancient pieces to Italy
La Times | Jason Felch
Posted on 10/04/2005 2:00:34 PM EDT by woofie
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1496468/posts


16 posted on 08/27/2006 6:41:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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A Blast from the Past -- 2005 -- and update.
Getty Museum relinquishes ownership of two Greek antiquities
San Diego Union-Tribune
August 22, 2006
The artifacts – a sixth-century B.C. votive relief and a fourth-century B.C. carved tombstone – will be flown back to Greece by the end of August, a culture ministry official said. Talks will continue "in the near future" in Athens on the possible restitution of another two ancient treasures in the Getty collection – a gold wreath dating from about 400 B.C. and a sixth-century B.C. marble statue of a young woman – that Greece wants back, the joint statement said... The marble relief, which depicts two women offering gifts to a seated goddess, was found by French archaeologists on the island of Thassos about 100 years ago and stolen from a storeroom. The Getty bought it in 1955. The black stone tombstone, incised with the figure of a young warrior named Athanias, was acquired by the Getty in the early 1990s. Greek authorities say it was illegally excavated near Thebes – an antiquities-rich town some 56 miles northwest of Athens – between 1992-96.
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17 posted on 08/27/2006 6:53:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ncountylee
Getty was a Stalin supporter and the museum is following the collective good path.

I believe you have Getty confused with someone else though I'm not sure who.

18 posted on 08/27/2006 6:58:20 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: BenLurkin
The Meier building is one of the prettiest built anywhere in the last decade. But folks still need to go back to the old Villa in Malibu to see the antiquities.

There's just no excuse for all the shenanigans in the curatorial department over the years, though.They knew exactly what they were doing & it's hard to imagine that the board was oblivious.

19 posted on 08/28/2006 7:26:27 AM PDT by leilani (Adios Ernesto! Don't let la puerta hit you....)
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To: socal_parrot

There's gypsies in the Palace...


20 posted on 08/28/2006 7:27:38 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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21 posted on 03/07/2010 6:47:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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