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ABOUT THAT 100,000
September 26, 2005 | self

Posted on 09/26/2005 1:35:27 PM PDT by Albertafriend

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51 posted on 09/26/2005 2:37:31 PM PDT by mystery-ak (A soldier only dies if he's forgotten.....a Gold Star Dad)
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To: Albertafriend

One of Zahi Aiwass' first contracts before he became czar of Egyptian antiquities was to count one of the big rallys. He did pretty much the same thing you did and came up with a similar result. A million turned into about a tenth of that once somebody did an actual count of some kind.


53 posted on 09/26/2005 3:05:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (We in heep dip trubble)
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To: digger48
[Even if it wer 100,000, you get more than that at a Nextel Race. And I'd like to see what their opinion on the matter would be.]

Yes, and one must pay to see a Nextel race while they are paid to attend the rally.

Godspeed, The Dilg
54 posted on 09/26/2005 3:19:01 PM PDT by thedilg
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To: Albertafriend
divided into 1/8 inch squares with about 16 pixels per square

I put together a 1/8 inch graph using 'paint' because I often draw floor plans to scale with one pixel equaling one inch. A 1/8th inch square is actually slightly more than twelve pixels on a side, or about 144 square pixels. So if you were estimating using sixteen pixels per 1/8th inch square, then you were off by a factor of nine. So if I understand your modus operandi correctly, maybe there were close to 100,000 there. I won't be unhappy if you can show me where I'm wrong.

55 posted on 09/26/2005 3:21:57 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Albertafriend

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56 posted on 09/26/2005 3:27:13 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: CyberAnt
Did you know ANSWER sent out an email saying they had 300,000 people ..?? ROTFLOL!!


Had ANSWER given out the drugs they obviously inhaled, there would have been 300,000.
57 posted on 09/26/2005 3:28:50 PM PDT by sono
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Someone has too much time on their hands... I guess they didn't take into account that one photograph may not include everyone that attended...


58 posted on 09/26/2005 3:34:14 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: oolatec

Every party has a pooper that's why we invited YOU!


59 posted on 09/26/2005 3:41:27 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Albertafriend
>>>>being generous because some of the grays are probably pavement, I reached a grand total of---6749!

Sounds about right. 6749 professional protesters being paid by George Soros&Company.

60 posted on 09/26/2005 4:04:45 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("Mister President, members of Congress, complete the mission".)
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To: varyouga
Good write-up on your profile page.

Welcome to the light. Glad you made it out of the darkness that is Leftism. Unfortunately, most college graduates end their education with their diploma, never examine the validity of what they were indoctrinated with, and are stuck in that limbo.
61 posted on 09/26/2005 4:05:43 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: finnman69

I say 12,000 in that pic.

So do I win the big jar of jellybeans on the counter?


62 posted on 09/26/2005 4:19:43 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: finnman69
One note - This picture is cropped - if you look at a pulled back version you can see that people also extend along the parade route (at least as much of it as you can see here.)

63 posted on 09/26/2005 4:49:17 PM PDT by Michamilton
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To: layman; Albertafriend

I attended the Promise Keepers "Stand In The Gap" rally in October 1997. There were a million +, we filled the streets for blocks around the capitol.


64 posted on 09/26/2005 4:53:03 PM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: cardinal4

Take the number of protesters actually there and multiply by their average IQ, and you get something like 100,000.


65 posted on 09/26/2005 6:11:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Michamilton

people extend down the route, but in amuch thinner concentration


I still guess around 50,000.


66 posted on 09/26/2005 7:36:56 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Albertafriend

Want to tutor my daughters in Math?


67 posted on 09/26/2005 7:50:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: finnman69

So I'm looking at this photo, I'm looking at the street, and around the area besides the elipse. I'm thinking that maybe 15,000 is closer than 10,000.

68 posted on 09/26/2005 8:04:04 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: Michamilton

I looked at that group and they are very sparse when you look at the picture at twice this size. That's one reason why I gave them an extra 3000 over my actual count.


69 posted on 09/26/2005 9:00:50 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: netmilsmom

Actually I do tutor kids in math--middle school mostly.


70 posted on 09/26/2005 9:02:16 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend

Good job!

The aerial shot I saw looked like about 6-7,000 at most.

I have been there for the January 22 anti-abortion rallies, and I know what 100,000 looks like. The entire mall is filled, and the marchers spill over into the side streets, going back a half a mile.


71 posted on 09/26/2005 9:06:04 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: finnman69; Albertafriend
OK.

Oval is accounted for - pun intended. Maybe 10,000 there by your calc's and comparisons.

Devil's advocate here speaking:

There is at least that many (who were in the 1/5 of the oval that was populated) again in the rectangular area in the street : How can we (reasonably) account for the street, the "sides" of the crowd on the street not in the picture, and those hidden in the trees? (No tree-hugging monkey jokes, please.)
72 posted on 09/26/2005 9:11:56 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: finnman69; Albertafriend

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/55402.html

Please double check your math:

Area of an oval is (w/2)*(h/2)*3.14

In our case, (.21/2)*(.16/2)*3.15 or 0.0263 sq miles.


73 posted on 09/26/2005 9:21:07 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: finnman69; Albertafriend

http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/55402.html

Please double check your math:

Area of an oval is (w/2)*(h/2)*3.14

In our case, (.21/2)*(.16/2)*3.15 or 0.0263 sq miles.


74 posted on 09/26/2005 9:21:40 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: rockrr
I saw a report on the "big anti-war protest" that attracted 100,000 marchers ...

100,000 is a number 'Rats like to throw out ... during the Clinton era they were going to hire 100,000 new cops, new teachers, etc.. It's a nice round number that means nothing ... it's pure hyperbole.

75 posted on 09/26/2005 9:29:34 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Albertafriend

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76 posted on 09/26/2005 11:44:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Albertafriend

THat was the back 900 going around the block 10 times...


77 posted on 09/26/2005 11:50:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Albertafriend

Thanks for the computation, but I'll point out where you went wrong.

Your main problem is that you counted all of those pixels as protesters. You forgot to factor in the life-sized puppets they all brought along to represent what they were REALLY protesting.

Now, how many gay - lesbian - transexual - crossdressing - webfooted -- teencurfew - ChineseoccupationofTibet - Tonga - faithbasedinitiative - Israel -thosethatsayliberalinsteadofprogressive - stuffthatisn'tpink - protestpermitrequirements - freemumia - ihavenowheretoputabumpersticker - antianarchist - overeducatedunemployable protest puppets did you overlook and count by mistake?

I'll wait while you recalculate.
</sarcasm>

;o) Welcome to FR!


78 posted on 09/27/2005 12:19:29 AM PDT by Watery Tart ("First, NO Mayor Ray Naga… Nogg… Nagg… Not gonna work here anymore, anyway!" ~~One of the Bobs)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I generated my own oval using autocad, different fomula.


79 posted on 09/27/2005 5:26:40 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I just did a more accurate to scale AutoCAD model and did an area take off using an oval .21 miles wide and .16 miles long. I got an area of 735,336 SF. So if I used approx 10SF per person i'm down to a capacity of 73,534 if the Oval is jammed full of moonbats.


80 posted on 09/27/2005 5:41:14 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Albertafriend

The National Park Service used to make scientific estimates of crowd size on the mall.

It became very common for groups to claim the NPS had PURPOSEFULLY undercounted their numbers. This reached its peak with the so-called "Million Man March"...which drew about 600,000.

The NPS got tired of being doormats for accusations of racism, sexism and all other ism's and they no longer count crowd size.


81 posted on 09/27/2005 5:49:52 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: finnman69

OK.

So, what you've figured is that IF the "oval" (sidewalk to sidewalk) were jammed full of people, each standing in his/her/its own area of 10 ft^2 (which is reasonable only if the people REALLY like each other!), THEN there would be 76,000 people in the Oval.

So, on Saturday, the Oval was 1/4 - 1/5 full, but there were a few more people on the street, under the trees on the grass, and out of the picture entirely. But there weren't 200,000; 150,000; 100,000, or more on the area.


82 posted on 09/27/2005 6:11:43 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Exactly right.

Figured sidewalk to sidewalk.

BTW, the Official Ellipse website lists the park as 52 acres, but that must include the entire rectangular footprint surrounding the Ellipse.


83 posted on 09/28/2005 6:39:25 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: speedy; Albertafriend
Different rules for rats - if they wanted to show up then they are counted.......
84 posted on 09/28/2005 6:45:08 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Prayers for healing and relief from pain for Cowboy...........)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
One of the questions that I have about the counts is logistical. Moving 100,000 people into and out of D.C. is going to have some impact on the transit systems, parking facilities, and hotels. I haven't heard any reports of long lines of traffic in or out of the city, nor and "crowded hotel" stories ....

There are a few possible answers here for my theory -

1. The city is such that 100,000 one-day visitors doesn't impact it.
2. The impact was there, but wasn't reported - by anyone.
3. The crowd wasn't that big.


Can anyone give any info from this angle?
85 posted on 09/28/2005 4:31:33 PM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: lOKKI; xsmommy

XS, your thoughts?


86 posted on 09/28/2005 4:34:22 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Prayers for healing and relief from pain for Cowboy...........)
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