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Cherokees Vote to Display Ten Commandments
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| 09/25/2005
| Adam Graham
Posted on 09/26/2005 8:26:45 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
If you are nostalgic for the days when the Ten Commandments were posted in public buildings, you might want to consider visiting the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Indians.
The tribal council is making plans to mount a copy of the Ten Commandments in the council house where government meetings are held, and possibly display them throughout other public buildings in the Cherokee Nation of western North Carolina.
The idea was introduced by Councilwoman Angela Kephart last month. She said the tribe should display the Ten Commandments out of respect and devotion to God. The motion passed unanimously.
"We aren't saying you have to abide by the Ten Commandments," Kephart said, according to the Smoky Mountain News. "We are simply displaying God's Ten Commandments. That's what He expects from each and every individual. If you break that, it is between you and God. It is not between you and the tribal council; it is between you and God."
There is no First Amendment issue involved, and even if the American Civil Liberties Union wanted to make one, it can't. The U.S. Constitution does not apply to Cherokee, nor to any other Native American tribe for that matter, according to Cherokee's Attorney General David Nash.
"We are a sovereign nation and we can pretty much post anything we want in our council chambers," said Kephart. "For once the federal government is not going to tell us what to do. We can feel good about it because we are standing up for God. The more it becomes controversial, the more we need to stand firm."
Kephart was clear about her desire to promote Christianity.
"God has blessed our tribe," she said. "We have a very rich tribe, per se. We are operating on over a $200 million budget thanks to our gaming enterprise."
Posting the Ten Commandments doesn't prevent others from practicing their religion, explained Nash.
"Anybody can practice any religion they want to practice," Nash said.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: americanindians; cherokee; cherokeenation; christianity; moses; noaclu; tencommandments
To: Keyes2000mt
The tribal council is making plans to mount a copy of the Ten Commandments in the council house where government meetings are held, and possibly display them throughout other public buildings in the Cherokee Nation of western North Carolina. Bump
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:28:52 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
(" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
To: Keyes2000mt
Dude... far out.... ;-)
Not bad.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:30:03 PM PDT
by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: Keyes2000mt
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:31:12 PM PDT
by
kellynla
(U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
To: Keyes2000mt
Well good for them. I suspect they have plenty of their traditional religious symbols around with no conflict as well.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:31:24 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: Keyes2000mt
I love it!!! Let's just see those über-diverse-and-tolerant ACLU b@st@rds go after a group of Cherokees.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:31:38 PM PDT
by
TonyRo76
(American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
To: Keyes2000mt
I was hopin' they wouldn't make me take "Cherokee" off my Jeep! LOL
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:32:42 PM PDT
by
kellynla
(U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
To: Keyes2000mt
"We can feel good about it because we are standing up for God. The more it becomes controversial, the more we need to stand firm." Bump again.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:32:43 PM PDT
by
A. Pole
(For today's Democrats abortion and "gay marriage" are more important that the whole New Deal legacy.)
To: Keyes2000mt
"We are a sovereign nation and we can pretty much post anything we want in our council chambers," WTF??
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:33:20 PM PDT
by
fat city
("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
To: Keyes2000mt
"God has blessed our tribe," And may He continue to bless the Cherokee!
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:33:57 PM PDT
by
kstewskis
("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
To: Keyes2000mt
*** "God has blessed our tribe," she said. "We have a very rich tribe, per se. We are operating on over a $200 million budget thanks to our gaming enterprise."***
I'm thinking she doesn't see the incongruity in this.
To: Keyes2000mt
Makes me proud that I'm 1/16th Cherokee! (Also makes me wish I was a part of a $200 million tribe.)
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:39:36 PM PDT
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
To: fat city
The Cherokee Nation, like any other recognised tribe, has soverign powers in their territory.
Treaties govern the Federal (and State) government' interaction with them; NOT the US Constitution.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:39:39 PM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Keyes2000mt
"The more it becomes controversial, the more we need to stand firm."
Bravo!
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:42:00 PM PDT
by
jocon307
(Sorry for my bad attitude)
To: Keyes2000mt
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:42:06 PM PDT
by
Chena
(I'm not young enough to know everything)
To: Keyes2000mt
Any way I could live there? I promise not to even try to change a thing, like what happened to my country.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:43:07 PM PDT
by
BikerTrash
(Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
To: cripplecreek
Having been subjected to the stereotyping from Hollywood and the left, I imagine it would surprise many to know how conservative and Christian a lot of tribes are. Traditional symbols of heritage abound, but for most, Jesus is our lord and savior, not some leftist amalgam of earthly worship.
Good to see them do this.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:47:37 PM PDT
by
kenth
To: clee1
Wow. This adds a whole new level to my ignorance.
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:50:45 PM PDT
by
fat city
("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
To: TonyRo76
go after a group of CherokeesWon't happen, that's why this so great!
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:53:00 PM PDT
by
apackof2
(There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
To: fat city
Yes, its true and wrong
Indians have a nation within a nation
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:54:14 PM PDT
by
apackof2
(There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
To: Keyes2000mt
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posted on
09/26/2005 8:55:20 PM PDT
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: apackof2
» that's why this so great!Exactly. Maybe I was a little too subtle, but we're on the same page here.
There's not a darn thing any leftist anti-God whackos can do about this.
HUZZAH!!!
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:01:56 PM PDT
by
TonyRo76
(American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
To: Keyes2000mt
Beautiful!
I get choked up as well when I go to pow wows in which the Seneca Nation Vets march proudly with the US flag.
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:03:33 PM PDT
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: clee1
And that is precisely why the Akaka Bill giving Hawaiians some measure of sovreignity should never be passed by the U.S. Congress.
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:19:05 PM PDT
by
KAUAIBOUND
(Hawaii - paradise infected with left-wing cockroaches and centipedes)
To: kellynla
To: Keyes2000mt
Way for them to say 'screw you' to all the non-christian cherokees.
To: Fawnn
I'm 1/64th.......out of the money.......: )
To: calrighty
Evidently 1/16th is too, because I haven't seen any of it. ;)
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:27:59 PM PDT
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
To: KAUAIBOUND
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:29:22 PM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: Fawnn
I guess we are stuck with reverting back to earning our OWN living.....................aw shucks : )
To: calrighty
Guess nobody ever said life would be fair. ;)
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:36:25 PM PDT
by
Fawnn
(Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
To: Keyes2000mt
Luckily for them, "Thou Shalt Not Gamble" was on the 3rd tablet that broke.
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:39:06 PM PDT
by
Blzbba
(For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
To: Keyes2000mt
"God has blessed our tribe," she said. "We have a very rich tribe, per se. We are operating on over a $200 million budget thanks to our gaming enterprise."
Thank God for gambling and the Trail of Tears!
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:41:35 PM PDT
by
Blzbba
(For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
To: TonyRo76
See, they wouldn't go after the Cherokees anyway, because they have been oppressed by the white man and ... um, for some reason they will be alingned with the ACLU in their minds. (I cann't quite 'reason' in the ACLU way, but I can see it coming).
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:42:01 PM PDT
by
bboop
(Facts are your friend.)
To: Fawnn
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:42:10 PM PDT
by
calrighty
(TAGLINE FOR LEASE.......NO PETS(HILLARY) NO STAINED DRESSES)
To: kenth
Yes, I am quite surprised to hear this from the Cherokees. Becz of Hollywood stereotypes, most likely. Good for them.
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:43:21 PM PDT
by
bboop
(Facts are your friend.)
To: kstewskis
Sing, Walela! If you've never heard the lyrical harmonies and evocative rythms of these stunning ladies, check them out on Amazon. I see that they have a third CD out.
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:53:05 PM PDT
by
ArmyTeach
(Pray daily for our troops...)
To: Keyes2000mt
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posted on
09/26/2005 9:54:45 PM PDT
by
T. Buzzard Trueblood
("...there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda." - Thomas Kean, chairman, 9/11 Commission)
To: Keyes2000mt
God has blessed our tribe," she said. "We have a very rich tribe, per se. We are operating on over a $200 million budget thanks to our gaming enterprise." Does she refer to the gambling enterprise? If yes, what an ironical statement...
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posted on
09/26/2005 10:25:12 PM PDT
by
paudio
(Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
To: BikerTrash
Any way I could live there? I promise not to even try to change a thing, like what happened to my country.My wife and I moved to Western NC a few years ago from rural NY. We like it here living on Lake James, in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mtns. We still have four seasons and it's easy to get a CCW permit. Asheville is a (secret) gem of a city, and close to the Smokey Mtns. where the Cherokees live.
We spent 20+ YEARS researching where we wanted to retire. We "landed" on Lake James about 6 years ago when we bought 2 acres of raw lake 400' front on the Lake. Built a 3,200 sq ft house three years ago, and love it here. If anyone wants more info, send me a FReepmail
http://www.dukepower.com/community/lakes/lakelevels/
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posted on
09/26/2005 10:30:15 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
To: Keyes2000mt
Well, well done!
The ACLU must be going insane - good!
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posted on
09/26/2005 11:52:07 PM PDT
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never free)
To: Keyes2000mt
This is excellent to hear...as soon as the ACLU or another radical group steps onto the reservation to sue them to remove it, I am sure that the Cherokees will politely show them the door, advising them that the Reservations are sovereign nations where the ACLU and their Ilk have no ability to act or bring a case against them. (Talk about your true Americans.)
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:41:02 AM PDT
by
Americanwolf
("You are stuck on Stupid" --- Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honore)
To: fat city
Ummm... Indian reservations by treaty are sovereign nations the only people they answer to is the federal government... and at that the fed are limited in what they can act upon on a reservation.
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:42:37 AM PDT
by
Americanwolf
("You are stuck on Stupid" --- Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honore)
To: eleni121
If you ever have a chance, if you haven't already, come out to Arizona to see some of the Navajo and Hopi Reservations and Public Pow Wows... the are stunning!
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:44:36 AM PDT
by
Americanwolf
("You are stuck on Stupid" --- Army Lt. Gen. Russell Honore)
To: PetroniusMaximus
*** "God has blessed our tribe," she said. "We have a very rich tribe, per se. We are operating on over a $200 million budget thanks to our gaming enterprise."*** I'm thinking she doesn't see the incongruity in this.Something about "Thou shalt not steal" would seem to apply to those $200 million.
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posted on
09/27/2005 12:50:28 AM PDT
by
Sparticus
(She's so open minded that her brains leaked out.)
To: apackof2
Yes, its true and wrong Why is it wrong? Those treaties have been around since before you were born. Those are agreements the US Government signed up to and they are considered to have the same relevence as Laws passed by Congress and the Constitution.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlevi.html
From Article Six:
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
This goes all the way back to the Founding Fathers. Nothing wrong here.
To: Fawnn
Q: What do you have when you put 16 Cherokees in a room?
A: One full-blood!
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posted on
09/27/2005 7:32:50 AM PDT
by
thulldud
(It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
To: Prodigal Son
No you misunderstood, I don't believe the agreements were right
The governmental policy was wrong. The Indians should have been assimulated into the general population of the United States as citizens instead of being isolated on to reservations, basically a huge welfare state where alcoholism and poverty is the norm
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posted on
09/27/2005 8:44:33 AM PDT
by
apackof2
(There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
To: Americanwolf
If you ever have a chance, if you haven't already, come out to Arizona to see some of the Navajo and Hopi Reservations and Public Pow Wows...
______________________________________________________
I'd love to! It's on my list of places to visit. When do they usually take place?
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posted on
09/27/2005 9:29:10 AM PDT
by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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