Skip to comments.Muslim Campground Raided, But Why?
Posted on 09/27/2005 7:14:21 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
EAST HADDAM -- Around town - and as far away as Tennessee - people are wondering why federal agents seized datashak plants and seeds and 19 computer discs from a Muslim campground in Moodus.
First Selectman Brad Parker said Friday's raid on the 18-acre Town Street campground, owned by Darul Uloom Shady Brook Inc., has the town abuzz. FBI agents and officials from the U.S. Department of Agriculture conducted the raid.
"Out on the street, people don't think that [the federal government] would go to that effort for a spinach plant," Parker said.
A Tennessee-based blog called "Ginny's Thoughts and Things" also seeks answers about the East Haddam raid: "I'm totally confused on this one. Could someone explain this to me?"
The federal Office of Inspector General declined to shed any light Monday, citing an ongoing investigation.
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Interesting reference to a "Tennessee-based" blog, especially by a leftie know-it-all newspaper.
There is a compound here in Virginia that doesn't allow police inside their facility. If the police want to speak to someone, they have to ask at the gate and wait for the person to be brought to them (if at all).
So far, the police are unwilling to start another Waco over it.
Yeah, well I guess the Feds should have run a story in the newspaper detailing exactly what they are looking for and why they decided to look for it in a Muslim owned factory.
This is who the enemy is. Ignore them at our own peril!
|AMERICAN MUSLIMS ISSUE FATWA AGAINST TERRORISM
|Posted by RDTF
On 09/27/2005 8:54:58 AM CDT · 32 replies · 215+ views
Adnki ^ | September 27 | AKI/DAWN
Washington D.C., 27 Sept. (AKI/DAWN) - North American Muslims have issued a religious edict or fatwa against extremism and terrorism to prevent disgruntled Muslims who might be tempted to use their religion to justify violence, says a pamphlet distributed at mosques and other religious places across the United States and Canada.The fatwa has been signed by representatives of more than 250 mosques and Islamic centres and endorsed by over 170 Muslim groups, leaders and institutions. The American fatwa followed a fatwa issued in March by the Islamic Commission of Spain, which declared Osama bin Laden an apostate and urged other...
Where in Virginia(I live there)? Some of us would like to keep an eye on it!
I think it is called Red Hill. Somewhere in Southside Va.
One never knows the power of spinach:
The Hartford Courant is a liberal rag...the fact that this is going on in my state is quite troubling. I cannot believe that we are NOT racial profiling....and I cannot believe we are NOT shutting down these campgrounds....
I'm sure that every celebrity has a set up like that. It's called private property.
They was only growin' spinach...yeah, right.
I googled Darul Uloom Shady Brook Inc. and there are several schools in the east named Darul Uloom, including in Pennsylvania and Florida. Is this a summer camp, a madrassa, a training center or what?
Not when you realize that Memphis is an AlQaueda stronghold in the USA where they can coordinate attacks - Recent arrests include 3 terrorists and not long ago, a woman who was providing all the papers, DL's, etc for the terrorists.
There was an American microbiologist who was mysteriously murdered in the same area.
U.S. NAVY BUPERS is just north of Memphis.
That is true of individuals but not communities. Any fraternity member can tell you that. The police can walk right in but they have to stop at the door of each room.
Unlike Washington/Oregon jihad states - Tennessee and Memphis are definitely ANTI-islamic terrorist! - That's why so many there are being caught.
It is the states where there are none caught that I would really start to worry about. We have already been infiltrated and their cells are in every major area in this country.
The FBI+DOA conducting a raid to confiscate seeds?I'll bet they were interested in more than just seeds.I hope they get usefull info from the computers.IMO,somethins up.
If the police have no probably cause to believe that there are crimes being committed inside and have no warrant, then there's no comparison to Waco.
That's like saying that a policeman cannot walk up to your door. He has to stand at the curb and wait for permission to walk on the lawn.
Policemen walk into apartment buildings all the time.
North American Muslims issued a fatwah !!!
Only a FOOL would buy into their radicalism.
"There is a compound here in Virginia that doesn't allow police inside their facility. If the police want to speak to someone, they have to ask at the gate and wait for the person to be brought to them (if at all)."
Wow, sounds just like my house!
I must be a terrorist.
A Muslime campground?
Are they putting up tents and grazing Camels here in the USA?
There is housing on the grounds. It's like a camp.
Particularly encrypted ones.
"There is housing on the grounds. It's like a camp."
There is housing on my property too!
And I don't let Police in without a warrant!
Wow, I must be a terrorist!
And that's the way it's supposed to be, unless there's a search warrant...
And...the answer is........drum roll please......YES
The police can come on your property if they want. They just have to stop at the door.
If you stop them from stepping on your property, you are a terrorist.
Search warrant only applies to your dwelling and/or searching. Police can come to your door if they like.
I always understood they weren't allowed on your 'property' without permission...Am I wrong?
No. They can walk up to your door without asking permission.
"If you stop them from stepping on your property, you are a terrorist."
Not if you fence the property and put a gate at the front.
IIRC that doesn't not stop the police from coming to your door in a community. Gated communities are that way. I'm pretty sure police are allowed to come through the gate without permission.
Remember, this is a community, not an individual private residence.
If your door is accessable, but if you have a fence with a locked gate, then they can only come to the gate. Remember the fuss over the police climbing OJ's gate? Entering a locked property requires either a warrant based upon evidence, or the first hand knowledge that a felony is in progress.
That's for a private home, not a community.
For instance, the police can enter an aprtment building but not the individual apartments. They can walk into a fraternity house or dorm but not into bedrooms.
So that applies to the celebrity 'compounds' and other gated property as well?
If they are communities, it does.
Where is this place? Is it not fully private property then? Or is it a community with public streets running through it?
It's in southside Va.
Our Homeowners Association owns the streets in our neighborhood so technically it is private property. We built and maintain them. I can't imagine a policeman has to ask permission everytime he drives on our roads.
The fact remains that communities can and do exist that are located entirely on private properties and neither want nor use services provided by neighboring communities. This means their roads are private roads, neither build nor maintained by public funds. This has ramifications or their ability to receive other public services. This means that police have to either get permission or execute a legal warrant to enter.
You can call all such communities terrorist if you want - it just lowers you credibility a little.
You can call all such communities terrorist if you want
And you need to learn to read.
The campers kept exploding around the ol' kamp fire.