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Reports: Plot to attack Paris subway, airport thwarted.
MSNBC ^ | Sept. 27, 2005 | AP

Posted on 09/27/2005 7:16:40 AM PDT by HHKrepublican

PARIS - Authorities fear that a suspected Islamic terror cell broken up in France was plotting attacks on the Paris subway, an airport and an intelligence agency's headquarters, newspapers said Tuesday.

Police arrested nine people Monday in the sweep, including an Islamic militant previously convicted on terrorism charges and freed from prison two years ago, officials said.

Le Figaro and Le Parisien newspapers said the alleged cell's suspected targets included the Metro, a Paris airport and the Paris headquarters of the Directorate for Territorial Surveillance, or DST, a police intelligence and counterterrorism agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: foiled; france; jihaineurope; paris
Why so sophisticated...we all know it only takes one gun :)
1 posted on 09/27/2005 7:16:41 AM PDT by HHKrepublican
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To: HHKrepublican

Without reading the article, I'm convinced it's that Franco-Amish terror cell.


2 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:21 AM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: HHKrepublican

Why would the attack a Nation they already defeated?


3 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:38 AM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: neodad

Those damn Amish again!


4 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:48 AM PDT by HHKrepublican
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To: HHKrepublican

Their "reward" for opposing the US on Iraq, apparently.


5 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:53 AM PDT by fluffy
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To: HHKrepublican

I guess France was about to be attacked becuase of their strident support of U.S. efforts in Iraq.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 7:20:54 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: HHKrepublican
Authorities fear that a suspected Islamic terror cell broken up in France was plotting attacks on the Paris subway, an airport and an intelligence agency's headquarters, newspapers said Tuesday.

Well, if France wasn't part of the forces in Iraq, the Islamists wouldn't be attacking them.

Wait a minute, they're not. What gives?

Could it be that Islamists will find a rationalization for attacking Western countries, one way or the other?

7 posted on 09/27/2005 7:21:31 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy

I think that banning headscarves in schools would do it.


8 posted on 09/27/2005 7:22:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: HHKrepublican

This is Hugh and Series. What if France has to surrender to itself! Is that a paradox that could destroy the universe?

Keep me updated.


9 posted on 09/27/2005 7:23:46 AM PDT by YouPosting2Me
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To: dirtboy

Could it be that Islamists will find a rationalization for attacking Western countries, one way or the other?


&&
Ya think?....


10 posted on 09/27/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: HHKrepublican

11 posted on 09/27/2005 7:25:06 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: YouPosting2Me

The French fought VERY hard in World War I, and in just six weeks of World War II lost more soldiers killed than the U.S. Army did during the entire war, so the "surrender monkey" label is most unfair.


12 posted on 09/27/2005 7:26:55 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: HHKrepublican

Welcome to the party Jacques.


13 posted on 09/27/2005 7:29:39 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: gardencatz

Ping. You might want this article for your bookmarks.


14 posted on 09/27/2005 7:30:02 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: CAP811

In fact, France has some of the more rigorous measures in place to combat terrorism. And they've given us more intelligence since 9/11 than most countries. But they certainly keep it hiden, don't they?


15 posted on 09/27/2005 7:30:11 AM PDT by twigs
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To: HHKrepublican

What, you mean being anti-American and anti-war, and turning your government and society over to Islamophilic leftist scumbags isn't enough?

I guess until 100% of the French face Mecca and prostrate 5 times a day under the black cloud of Islam, nothing will appease the bloodthirsty b@stards.

(hats off to Harper)


16 posted on 09/27/2005 7:30:52 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: HHKrepublican

It was thwarted because once the french found out about the plot, they immediately surrendered. Thus making the plot unneccessary and thwarted.


17 posted on 09/27/2005 7:32:40 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (You should post without reading once a day. If my post makes no sense, I am filling my quota.)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
>The French fought VERY hard in World War I, and in just six weeks of World War II lost more soldiers [?!] killed than the U.S. Army did during the entire war...

You are not quite right.
According to stats, most deaths
were French civilians.

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World War II Casualties

French Soldiers: 123,000
French Civilians: 470,000
French Deaths: 593,000

US Soldiers: 405,400
US Civilians:
US Deaths: 405,400

18 posted on 09/27/2005 7:38:51 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: HHKrepublican

...including an Islamic militant previously convicted on terrorism charges and freed from prison two years ago...

________________________________________________________

Whoa! I guess rehabilitation efforts didn't work. Next time lose the key!


19 posted on 09/27/2005 7:41:20 AM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: YouPosting2Me
What if France has to surrender to itself! Is that a paradox that could destroy the universe?

No ... unless one considers France to be the Universe (which the French do, of course).

20 posted on 09/27/2005 7:45:26 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Don't let them take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: BulletBobCo

LOL


21 posted on 09/27/2005 7:46:50 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
in just six weeks of World War II lost more soldiers killed than the U.S. Army did during the entire war

I wouldn't consider that a badge of honor.

22 posted on 09/27/2005 7:47:14 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Don't let them take things away from you on behalf of the public good!)
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To: Semper Paratus
Er, while some of you seem to think terrorism in France is a recent, Al Qaeda-era phenomenon, fact is many radical movements resorted to terrorism on French territory, or against French citizens abroad.

In the 1960s, the terrorism was linked to the Algerian War, and the attacks were perpetrated by Algerian Independists and extremist French colonists just as well, albeit with diametrally opposed goals.

In the 1970s, France was hit by Palestinian and Armenian terrorism, as well as the homebred and Moscow-funded Action Directe Communist groups.

In the 1980s, the terrorist attacks were more directly linked to sponsors such as Libya (whose troops faced French troops in Chad from 1984 to 1986), Iran, and Syria. Apart from the kidnapping or assassination of French citizens (such as the Damascus-sponsored assassination of the French ambassador in Lebanon), the attacks targeted France's Jewish population. Basque and Corsican separatists also attacked official targets, albeit generally avoiding any loss of life.

As the French anti-terrorism units scored major hits on various groups in the 1980s (Action DIrecte was wiped out, Carlos was arrested and sent to France to be judged, the Basque ETA reeled after French-Spanish joint arrests), terrorism against French interests in the 1990s mainly took place abroad. You might remember a mi-1990s hijacking of an Air France flight in Algeria by terrorists who, as it transpired, had planned to fly the plane into Paris for maximum loss of life.

From 2000 onward, terrorism in France has taken its new global, Al-Qaeda face. In 2002, a Chechen group was stopped short of attacking the Russian embassy. In 2003 (IIRC), another Islamic group was arrested before they could launch an attack against the United States's embassy in Paris.

For those interested in the tactics and legislative arsenal used against terrorist groups in France, here are some links you might find useful :

Video of an arrest :

http://www.lci.fr/news/0,,3248815-e3BsYXllciBxdWFsaXR5IFVOVl9JRH0gezIwMiAyMDEgNTJ9,00.html

French anti-terrorism policy :

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19403

http://www.brookings.edu/views/articles/fellows/shapiro20030301.pdf
23 posted on 09/27/2005 8:11:35 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: theFIRMbss

Interesting stats. The ones I have put the losses at 200,000 soldiers and 115,000 civilians.

No link, alas, it comes from a US Army booklet that was given to US GIs serving in France.


24 posted on 09/27/2005 8:16:36 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: 1rudeboy

Hmmm, I remember that Crucifixes and the Star of David symbols were also banned...but I don't recall any terror plots by Catholics or Jews against France...


25 posted on 09/27/2005 8:21:56 AM PDT by milford421
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To: theFIRMbss

Thanks for the post, but I have seen other stats than what Wikepedia has.


26 posted on 09/27/2005 8:26:52 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan
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To: twigs

France also has a policy in place that we could learn from ourselves. They basically maintain a standing policy of immediately deporting anyone who gets up in a mosque and calls on his followers to engage in jihad against the French people, government, etc. No deportation hearings, no agonizing over the "rights of the accused," and no concern over underwear on someone's head . . . they just put the guy on the next Air Jihad flight to some Middle Eastern rat-hole and are done with him.


27 posted on 09/27/2005 8:58:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child

You're right. We do have something to learn from them.


28 posted on 09/27/2005 8:59:32 AM PDT by twigs
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To: HHKrepublican

29 posted on 09/27/2005 9:05:54 AM PDT by Babu
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To: HHKrepublican

They want to kill us all, so i'm hoping the French are 'getting it" now. However, since the attack was thwarted the lesson will probably no sink in.


30 posted on 09/27/2005 9:56:30 AM PDT by jocon307 (Sorry for my bad attitude)
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To: Grand Old Partisan; Atlantic Friend
>I have seen other stats than what Wikepedia has

Wikipedia's stats
are consistent with others.
One site compiles them,

so you can check out
the range of "accepted" deaths.
Wikipedia's fair.



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Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Man-made Megadeaths of the Twentieth Century

France

Military:

Ellis: 92,000 (1940), 30,000 (in exile)
Compton's: 166,195
Keegan: 200,000
Eckhardt: 200,000
Info. Please: 201,568
Small & Singer: 210,000 (w/Allies), 2,500 (Vichy, w/Axis)
HarperCollins: 210,671
Britannica: 213,324 (incl. 1,200 Vichy)
Davies: 213,324
Clodfelter: 245,000 incl...
213,324 KIA, which incl. 2,653 Vichy
Encarta: 250,000
Urlanis: 250,000
KIA, 1939-40 War: 92,000
KIA, Free French, 1940-45: 58,000
Resistance: 20,000
Alsatian French conscripts KIA w/German army: 40,000
POW Deaths: 40,000

Civilian:

HarperCollins: 173,260
Britannica: 350,000
Davies: 350,000
Clodfelter: 350,000
Urlanis: 350,000
From bombing: 60,000
Nazi terror: 90,000
Forced labor in Germany: 40,000
German concentration camps: 160,000
Encarta: 360,000
Keegan: 400,000
Eckhardt: 450,000
Ellis: 470,000

31 posted on 09/27/2005 10:47:51 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Velveeta; backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; nwctwx; All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170550,00.html
AP
"Reports: France Suspects Plotted Subway, Airport Attacks"
Tuesday, September 27, 2005


PARIS —

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police arrested nine people Monday, including an Islamic militant previously convicted on terrorism charges and freed from prison two years ago, officials said.

Le Figaro and Le Parisien newspapers said the alleged cell's suspected targets included the Metro, a Paris airport and the Paris headquarters of the Directorate for Territorial Surveillance (search), or DST, a police intelligence and counterterrorism agency. The reports did not identify the airport.

Le Figaro said the suspected cell allegedly had Al Qaeda (search) contacts and that some of its members had knowledge of explosives."


32 posted on 09/27/2005 2:03:08 PM PDT by Cindy
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