Skip to comments.Some Reports of N.O. Violence Exaggerated
Posted on 09/27/2005 11:36:58 AM PDT by andyk
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i'm 47 and 6th generation Mississippian so white on black racism is nothing new to me....
But while that has gone down markedly in my view during my lifetime, the rise of black resentment and contempt for whites (and others actually) has been a disappointment.
and I really don't see much fixing that........white guilt sure won't....no matter how good it makes those folks feel about themselves.
that said....I think evryone is racist a bit.....either out and out, or passive, or defensive (me), or paternalistic (that would be the mushy guilty white folk)
it's a damned mess......the issues that arose from Katrina were nothing new...it's just the scope and the 24 hour news channels went on and on and on.
if that was the first time folks saw black hostility to whites and it startled them then they must live pretty isolated.
as for all the white on black racist aspects...I blame Bush of course..lol
I had hoped this could open eyes and maybe fix some stuff that needs fixin but it's back to business as usual.
Four days after the storm, thousands of blacks in New Orleans are dying like dogs. No-one has come to help them.
uhhh...lets see. start walking North or West. I'm sure a local Git-n-Go could be an hour outside of the punchbowl of hell. Imagine that, "survival."
True. And I'm going to have to be more careful about what I believe. A wait and see attitude in situations like this is definitely the wise path to take.
We do have our share of idiots here. I wish that were not the case.
People who are really racist are of one culture and - yes there are people who are not racist and they are of another culture.
I don't believe that everyone is a degree of racist. Not my friends anyway- and be careful to think that my friends are one color please. :]
Of course the media was exaggerating data and numbers- I mean tens of thousands of dead? No way.
Why don't they find the National Guardsman and interview him. So are we to believe that he was lying? Ummm.. I am not going to fall for that one so easily.
"Kelly McBride, who teaches ethics to journalists at the Poynter Institute,"
That is like an Eskimo teaching Russian to a rattlesnake!
Many freepers here are not racists, but certainly vulnerable to to MSM and Cable reports. So many did not allow for the fact of so many reporting to the super dome after they had pulled many victims from the rising waters, or that they had pushed their elderly relatives on floating rafts, or that they had shared their provisions with others in compassion. But, of course, they should be forever banished from their city because they are only riff raff, after all, and will choose to relocate. I think not.
Grrrr...this is getting on my nerves. When I see LA, as in your post, I know it California. Louisiana is La.....LOL
I'm right with you on all of it, especially the Guardsman.
That line made me laugh out loud. :) Zinggg!!
Your removal of the quote from the context of the article is "real" too.
Well the one truth I have yet to see repeated is the footage of the two female New Orleans cops wheeling shopping carts as they...umm...shopped or...umm...looted. The footage ran on one day for a short period and then was not ever shown again. One of the cops was quoted saying she was "only doing her job!"
This happened as I swear I saw the footage and heard her reply. She was scurrying along with all the others inside this store. I doubt she was doing her job and I saw an awful lot of non-food items on the shelves and in people's hands and shopping carts.
Yeesh. This was a NO cop -- someone who is supposed to uphold the law!!!!
Yes, well said, and it will be used against us to make us over react, all the way to 2008.
For example since it's our world view that we need a conservative SC judge, the MSM will try to convince us that the nominee is not -- and some will take it automatically as being legitimate.
This really steams me. Hearing the lamestream media 24/7 pointing their dirty fingers at GWB and Michael Brown and FEMA and meanwhile the damn first responders are *cough* shopping for free.
I watched a report on SCarborough and a photo journalist and he had taken LOTS of pictures of dead bodies around the Dome and Center. I feel certain there were more than the 5-6 that they say.
I think Nagin may be telling the truth, but now people are re-thinking helping some people.
Now I want on the record as being the first to defend the honor of our police- because most them are top notch- but NO has a problem that George Bush himself can not solve.
What you wrote is so true. I treat all people the same and I expect the same from all of them, too. I never expect less from people of color and many folks that I know personally and professionally have always appreciated that and said so. Those who aren't hoodwinked under the spell of the democrats and people like Jesse Jackson and his cohorts don't see themselves as perpetual victims and they, too, want to be treated equally as they deserve.
To expect less of a person is to think less of that person, something that the morons in the democrap party and the professional poverty leaders like Jackson and others refuse to acknowledge since it would interfere with their real agenda.
C'mon, you know the drill: the media is lying, unless what they say fits one's preconceptions.
That picture looks as if he's exhorting the crowd to thow its hands in the air and wave 'em like it just don't care.
Of the people I know- from different cultures, backgrounds and ethnic groups- I do not associate with one who would enjoy being treated as tho they needed some special help in life. None of them remind me that they look different from me- otherwise we would not be hanging out together very happily. :]
Yes, "some authority" like the NOPD or other agencies within THE STATE OF LOUISIANA. Where were they? Certainly not under president Bush's command. Lousiana is clearly the most corrupt state of dependent wimps in the entire USA, bar none. It's raining -- "WHAAAAAAA", It's blowing -- "WHAAAAAAA", It's flooding -- "WHAAAAAAA". Give us $250B -- "WHAAAAAAA".
Saddest thing is, too many freepers couldn't wait to believe the violence reports were all true.
"The incidents were highly exaggerated" _ the result of fear and hopelessness,..."
by the MSM that they might not be able to bash W enough with just the hurricane alone
Good to know about the exaggerations.
That said, I'm not surprised it would be very hard to file criminal charges with extensive evacuations, and police stations swamped. The police who didn't go AWOL weren't spending their time doing paperwork.
So the bottom line is the following
Murders DID occur at these locations
Rapes DID occur at these locations
Assaults DID occur at these locations.
The numbers might have been exaggerated but the incidents did occur.
Funny how some people on here act like the article states nothing happened.
"Who runs Bayou-town?"
"Mayor Nagin runs Bayou-town."
Well I heard the state police chief implore people on air not to report rumors as fact because the SWAT team had already been called out to hospitals that had allegedly been taken over a number of times and found nothing. While the police were busy responding to non-existent takeovers the real bad guys could get back to looting.
That is why there were not as many deaths and other violent acts as imagined.
These men will go unnamed, unacknowledged.
They don't consider themselves heroes.
The MSM won't be investigating those events. No spice.
Good post. Ironically, this is what I saw when I was actually watching footage from the Superdome, Convention Center, etc. Not rape and murder. Oddly, the sensational stuff seemed to only come from third hand reports (though there were reporters on scene)
Good post Smogger. I was one of the Freepers who opined that this may be the stuff of urban legend. Too lazy to find the post for you, but it's in my comments somewhere.
And yet the press will be the first to accuse the President of bigotry. How do they manage to finangle all of this hypocrisy?
Well, I recognize I"m about fifteen hours late for your question, but I'll answer anyway.
I think people believed those stories at least in part because they found such stories about blacks easy to believe.
But they're not just doing it for fun, are they? There is an ulterior motive; In fact, there are two ulterior motives. On one side it's financial gain: On the other side it's political gain. The one's who do it for financial gain are winning. The ones who do it for political divisiveness will lose in the long run. Their peer pressure tactics may persuade some young people for brief periods, but no matter how hard the race-baiters try they cannot recruit mature adults who recognize these school yard games.
People believed the stories because they were being told lies by the mayor and by the chief of police, who together presented everything in a very convincing manner.
If it were just the MSM, more people would have been skeptical.
"So who's a racist again?"The msm.The coverage inferring wholesale murder,rape,....made the residents of NO look bad.From where i was sitting,it appeared that order had collapsed completely,and(imo)that was the spin the msm intentionaly presented to America and the world.In hindsight it appears that the vast majority of people stuck in NO handled the situation well.Do you think the msm will ever sit down and honestly ask themselves why their coverage was so innacurate,cynical,and biased?
It's never too late to answer such questions.
I did not watch very much of the Katrina disaster on TV. I mostly listened to the radio and read stories online.
When I began reading this thread I thought it was about people believing rumors without waiting for verification. I admit that I believed that there was some truth to most of the horror stories floating in and did not employ as much critical thinking as I should have. As I heard the stories coming in, I kept thinking, "My God, how horrible!" It never occurred to me to tie race to it. But then, that may have been because I've lived in predominately white areas all my life and some of the people I've known have done some pretty vile things.
Soldier! You missed a formation! Front-leaning rest position, move!
Still, some are holding on for dear life over this. Amazing.
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!
One word and there is nothing you can do about it. No wonder they get so upset when they think the power is not worshiped by all.
BTW- I am as much of a racist and a bigot as the sun sets in the East, and if people were not so frightened of being called vile names themselves- some freepers would show up and say so- but they are afraid- and who can blame them???- I have the freepmails and emails- (which I will never post or mention by name that tell me that.)
No matter- I have posted what others dare not- things, BTW our "black conservatives" have all said themselves- RDB3 says inner cities are an "experiment in Marxism" and that he would shoot and kill all of the looters in NO- but I am a racist for saying the inner cities are a mess and welfare should be controlled for fraud- I have donated to relief for those people who were displaced by Katrina, worked years in social work and in welfare, worked for a Democratic congressman, worked with Jesse Jackson and lived thru riots - I speak of my experience and opinions and I am somehow more of a racist than I was before I said anything.
I am called a bigot and a KKK member all over this forum- and those who are doing the name calling are demanding the world is unfair and full of hatred against them. (Rolling eyes)
There are websites dedicated to causing infighting at FR and are full of people who do nothing but call freepers and Jim Rob all sorts of horrible names- one which we know some posters( RDB3) on this thread are active participants with- and I am the one who is told to retract statements???? And freepers rush to his aid!?!
Ummm hmmm..... Food for thought: Can you imagine Dr. Rice getting on a pedestal and calling anyone a racist or a bigot for posting their opinions of riots and welfare on a website?
I can't- she doesn't need the smoke and mirrors. But then again this hysteria is about a culture which she does not belong to - not the color of her skin.
This too shall pass.