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Monster Mold Threatens Health in the South
Earthlink.net ^ | September 27, 2005 | Silverman, Breed, Marchione

Posted on 09/27/2005 1:48:36 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes

NEW ORLEANS - Wearing goggles, gloves, galoshes and a mask, Veronica Randazzo lasted only 10 minutes inside her home in St. Bernard Parish. Her eyes burned, her mouth filled with a salty taste and she felt nauseous. Her 26-year-old daughter, Alicia, also covered in gear, came out coughing.

"That mold," she said. "It smells like death."

Mold now forms an interior version of kudzu in the soggy South, posing health dangers that will make many homes tear-downs and will force schools and hospitals to do expensive repairs.

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KEYWORDS: allergens; asthma; fungus; health; insurance; louisiana; mold
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I can only imagine.
1 posted on 09/27/2005 1:48:39 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes
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To: Past Your Eyes

The Blob!!!!!


2 posted on 09/27/2005 1:53:21 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Ham & Eggs: A day's work for a hen, A lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Unfortunately you have to jet the jump on the stuff. As soon as the flood waters recede you have to knock out all the sheet rock, insulation, and cabinets; then get lots of fans in to try and dry it out before the stuff sets in. Probably too late for the folks in N.O.
I don't know of any way to get rid of mold after it takes root either.

GE
3 posted on 09/27/2005 1:53:28 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Past Your Eyes
As was posted a week ago, before this second wave of flooding...

4 posted on 09/27/2005 1:55:29 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Past Your Eyes

Here we go, the next horrible and nasty thing to happen to those in the hurricane zone. These stories are real hard to believe.


5 posted on 09/27/2005 1:55:53 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

Believe them. I just spent a week performing mudouts in Bay Saint Louis and Waveland. The smell of mold and decay is everywhere. If they don't get to these homes VERY soon, they will need to be bulldozed.


6 posted on 09/27/2005 1:58:05 PM PDT by Syco
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To: Past Your Eyes

Soaked plaster plus warm air equals mold and mildew. That has happened after floods for as long as there have been houses built in flood-prone areas.

I hate to say it, but this sounds like more media overkill designed to encourage even more federal aid. Just like the hyped death toll.


7 posted on 09/27/2005 1:58:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Katrina Takes a Toll on Truth, News Accuracy

Let's take a breath.

8 posted on 09/27/2005 1:58:41 PM PDT by martin_fierro (|\/|4R71|\|_P|-|13RR0)
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To: caver

Not hard for those of us who live in the hurricane zone.

My father-in-law rented a house when he moved to a new town.
He and his girlfriend were in it for less than two weeks before their houseplants started dying and they both got bronchial infections.

The mold was an undisclosed, recurring problem from Hurricane Floyd-related flooding.

The house was finally torn down because the mold could not be controlled.


9 posted on 09/27/2005 1:59:07 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: GrandEagle

"I don't know of any way to get rid of mold after it takes root either."

Burn the place down.


10 posted on 09/27/2005 1:59:44 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Zacs Mom

Wait a minute, isn't that an image of the Virgin Mary I see there? On the wall next to the crooked picture.


11 posted on 09/27/2005 1:59:55 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: GrandEagle
"I don't know of any way to get rid of mold after it takes root either."

Simple. Let house dry out. Burn down. Rebuild.

Only half joking--mold allergies were what drove me out of Louisiana.

12 posted on 09/27/2005 2:03:51 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Syco; Constitution Day

OK, I know that some homes and people have had to evacuate their houses due to mold. It does happen all over the country but I was skeptical about the mold coming on so quick. I guess with all the moisture and heat, the mold would take off in a hurry. These doomsday stories are getting old, maybe accurate but old.

It seems the insurance companies won't have to pay a dime on all these damages. If you don't have flood, hurricane and mold coverage, then you're screwed.

How do you handle mold on such a large scale?


13 posted on 09/27/2005 2:05:55 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

hmmmmmmmmm.....time to open an eBay account?


14 posted on 09/27/2005 2:06:00 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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Mold madness...

15 posted on 09/27/2005 2:06:03 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"mold allergies were what drove me out of Louisiana."

I was driven out of Louisiana by a 1987 Honda Civic. But then I'd only been there a few minutes. ";^)

16 posted on 09/27/2005 2:06:48 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: caver
Here we go, the next horrible and nasty thing to happen to those in the hurricane zone. These stories are real hard to believe.

Being alergic to certain molds from wood rot, I can assure you it's very real. It can be a killer in many cases, helping the random flu overwhealm your immune system and bodily defenses. Just nasty stuff...

17 posted on 09/27/2005 2:06:54 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Mold is a serious thing. I left my basement windows open, went on a 5 day vaca (it rained heavily for a couple of days). I didn't realize the water had created a puddle under one of the couches.

The mold grew an inch out in some spots, and we lost the couches, some other furniture, and half the sheet-rock all over the room

In addition to the ruined furniture, it cost $3,500 for the mold removal. Ouch.

18 posted on 09/27/2005 2:07:35 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: evets

The strange death of Jordy Verrill...;-D


19 posted on 09/27/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: caver

"How do you handle mold on such a large scale?"

Strip it down to the studs, treat and seal the studs (or replace them if warped too badly) and then put the wallboard back up again. I know people, though, whose houses were flooded by hurricane Floyd, who still have a musty, swampy odor inside the house that they can't get rid of. Same thing can happen with housefires, as far as odor.


20 posted on 09/27/2005 2:10:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Past Your Eyes

"Monster Mold" would be a GREAT name for a rock band!


21 posted on 09/27/2005 2:13:45 PM PDT by TheBigB (I will punch the next person who confuses "you're" and "your". Seriously. Don't test me.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
" I was driven out of Louisiana by a 1987 Honda Civic."

I prefer Acuras. More go, better accessories.

22 posted on 09/27/2005 2:14:55 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I can't imagine mold living in saltwater.


23 posted on 09/27/2005 2:15:10 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Caipirabob

Can bio diesel be made from mold?


24 posted on 09/27/2005 2:18:41 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: TheBigB
"Monster Mold" would be a GREAT name for a rock band!

"Monster Mold" would be a great name for Hilary's campaign strategy.

25 posted on 09/27/2005 2:20:33 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Wonder Warthog; BeHoldAPaleHorse
burn the place down

Although half joking, I do think that is about the only option!

GE
26 posted on 09/27/2005 2:21:39 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Wonder Warthog

Hey, it was a rental and we were on the cheap. Besides, we just wanted to stick our toe into the state so that we could say we'd been there. Extreme NW corner. Caddo Parish, IIRC.


27 posted on 09/27/2005 2:22:13 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Mold is not covered by most insurance policies. Example: John Smith's house was damaged by wind rather than flooding. But the heavy rain soaked the attic. Mold starts to grow in the meantime. Unless he acts quickly to mitigate the damage, Smith is scr@ewd.


28 posted on 09/27/2005 2:23:04 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Syco
Waveland
I lived there for a while. Still have friends that I've not heard from. They won't let us in either to look.
Is there anything left there?

GE
29 posted on 09/27/2005 2:23:39 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Past Your Eyes

That was an X-files episode, the El Chupacabra was actually some guy with the "touch" of killer mold.


30 posted on 09/27/2005 2:24:13 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Wait a minute, isn't that an image of the Virgin Mary I see there?

No. That's the Vigin Moldy...

31 posted on 09/27/2005 2:26:11 PM PDT by null and void (I'm a patient and peaceful man. Threaten me or mine, and that changes. Then, I am a vengeful man.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
"Extreme NW corner. Caddo Parish, IIRC."

Then you haven't been to Louisiana. Anywhere north of Alexandria is actually an extension of Mississippi/Alabama redneck country.

"Brought youself" to Lafayette, Opelousas, New Roads, Marksville, Mansura, or similar and see the REAL Louisiana.

32 posted on 09/27/2005 2:29:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: GrandEagle
EPA waiver to burn N.O.: cauterize the mass suicide pit just like Mrs. O'Leary's cow in Chicago, or more exactly the Afro-poverty-pimp racists fomenting the flaming L.A., Detroit, D.C. Riots -

Burn, Baby, burn.

33 posted on 09/27/2005 2:31:32 PM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: GrandEagle

I hear Waveland is pretty much gone, but I could be wrong. Our friends in Pass Christian lost their home (I just heard from them last week--they are in Indiana right now).

My brother has a home less than 10 blocks from the Quarter and while it didn't flood too bad and he only lost a couple of windows (and his car), he's still worried about mold (he stayed for a week after Katrina, then got out). He's in Indianapolis, looking for a short-term apartment because he found a job there last week.

Mold in LA is killer--we moved to Slidell in 1999 and our then 1 year old daughter had severe allergies to it--they put her on medication for it after she kept getting ear infections and sinus infections from the allergy. Once we left there in the latter part of 2000, she was fine.


34 posted on 09/27/2005 2:37:30 PM PDT by Okies love Dubya 2 ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." G.K.Chesterton)
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To: caver
You destroy the houses. People can't understand the scope of this problem from TV, and yes, the media has made things much worse by crying wolf for the past month about everything from the violence in New Orleans to the supposed racism of the recovery. I can tell you several things.

First, the physical devastation in Mississippi is WORSE than the media is reporting. All of the attention has been given to New Orleans, but in Mississippi, some communities are simply GONE. I credit this under reporting with simple laziness on the part of the media as well as politically motivated focusing on New Orleans which can more easily be placed at the feet of the Feds (for some reason that I'm still trying to understand).

Second, I saw zero evidence of racism among the relief workers. People of all races were working together to improve the situation, but things are pretty dire. It will take YEARS to rebuild.

Third, the mold is a very real problem. Please don't shrug it off as more media hype. I was there. The pictures above are accurate. A forty foot wall of water came through the areas of coastal Mississippi where I was working. In that environment, where daytime temps were routinely in the mid 90's and humidity hovered around 90%, mold grows like grass. Don't believe me? Take a wet towel and throw it in a high school locker for a week. Remember the smell? It's EVERYWHERE down there.

Fourth, are the homeowners screwed? You betcha! Few people have the right insurance in those areas and those who do are underinsured in most cases. Many of them have hurricane insurance, but the insurers won't pay because they don't have flood insurance.

Lastly, what can you do about the mold? You have to go in, remove EVERYTHING from the houses (furniture, flooring, drywall, kitchen cabinetry, toilets, shower inserts, etc.) and spray the 2X4 skeleton of the building with a bleach solution. That will get rid of a LOT of the mold, but you have to be diligent and several applications are necessary. Even then, there are no guarantees. Then, if they're like most American counties, the authorities will need to come in after about a month and do a moisture reading of the building (usually between 15 & 17%). They won't let you hang one sheet of sheet rock until you meet this minimum. And even then, there's still a very real possibility that you'll have mold problems and have to destroy the building.

But ask yourself, if it was you're house wouldn't you want to at least try to save it? Most people would.

The stark reality is that the MAJORITY of the homes along the coast and in New Orleans will need to be destroyed and rebuilt over the next few years. That news may be getting old, but it's got to stay in front of us.

One last thing, please don't blame these people because they built in a flood plain. The people who had houses on the coast lost EVERYTHING. Their homes are simply gone. They aren't the ones we're talking about. In some areas of Mississippi the flood waters came into areas that are ten miles inland and have NEVER FLOODED BEFORE. NO ONE expected this. I worked in a home that was located fifteen feet above sea level AND was built on ten foot stilts AND STILL had six feet of water in the structure. Katrina really was unprecedented.
35 posted on 09/27/2005 2:40:10 PM PDT by Syco
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To: GrandEagle

Not much is left. The south side of the railroad tracks is totally destroyed. It looks like someone put a lumber yard in a blender and spread it all around. On the northern side of the tracks most structures are still standing, but there is extensive damage. Almost all of the buildings need to be completely gutted or demolished and rebuilt. Fortunately most people got out in time, but it's hard to believe that anyone could have survived if they were near the beach and caught in the storm surge. Since you're from the area you'll understand how bad it was. Some folks in The Kiln had 8' of water in their homes. I've never seen anything like it, and I hope that I never see anything like it again. I hope that you're friends are okay.

FYI, you can probably get into Waveland now. The military is everywhere and they've really restored order and opened the area. Most people there are homeowners or relief workers, but at this point no one would mind your presence.


36 posted on 09/27/2005 2:45:59 PM PDT by Syco
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To: Syco
The Kiln had 8'
I would have never guess this!
I am currently helping the DCS team at the Dupont plant there in The Pass get the plant back up and running. They had 8'-14' of water in most control rooms. They said that the water was 20 feet OVER the levee built on the bay side.
My Mother-in-law is buried in the Waveland Cemetery. I hope it didn't float the caskets away - my wife will be heartbroken. My Father-in-Law just moved to the Carolinas last year from Waveland. He would not have left for the Hurricane. The move probably saved his life.
The last place I lived was in the big, white apartment complex just off of Highway 90 on the west side of Waveland. I bought my first new car from Charlie Henderson Ford there in Waveland. Lots of good memories.

Thanks for the info. I'll try and get down there this week. I didn't want to get in the way.
37 posted on 09/27/2005 2:57:30 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Past Your Eyes
I have been waiting for the mold stories to start. This problem is real and it's REAL bad. Some people are sickened by mold some are not. It is not a scam. We had mold develop in our bay house. It made me sick as a dog every time I spent the night in the house and my husband was not bothered at all. I would wake up with a blinding headache and in 24 hours I had an infection, sinus or bronchial. The mold was inside the walls, in the a/c units and under the wall paper so we had trouble finding it. We sold the house as is because it was going to cost more than it was worth to fix it. The guy who bought it did a halfa$$ job cleaning & repairing. I wouldn't want to be the next buyer.
38 posted on 09/27/2005 2:58:59 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ex-Texan
Mold is not covered by most insurance policies.
Mine is with ALFA insurance and states that it is only covered if it resulted from a covered incident. Flooding is not a covered incident, but leaking from the loss of a roof is.
That is what mine says anyway.

GE
39 posted on 09/27/2005 2:59:55 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Old Professer

It doesn't live in the saltwater, it's created by the moisture left after the water recedes. Or, if the water is still standing for a long period of time it will grow right above the water line on water surface is there.


40 posted on 09/27/2005 3:02:58 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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To: GrandEagle
You won't get in the way. I doubt if the cemetery was seriously affected. I helped do a mudout on a guy's house in Bay St. Louis who was there during the storm. He said that the water came in pretty suddenly, stayed around for about three or four hours, then receded almost as quickly as it came in. There probably wasn't time to saturate the ground to the level necessary to float caskets.

If you're interested, I was working with Samaritan's Purse. They have a base camp at the Bayou Talla Fellowship Church in the Kiln along Hwy 43. They have many volunteers (like me) from out of state who are helping but they're looking for local help as well. If you, or anyone you know is looking to get attached to a group to help with the relief, I can't recommend anyone more. They have a LOT less bureaucracy than the Red Cross and really get their hands dirty (filthy actually). If you're in the area, stop in and ask for Connie if you'd like to help or if you have any questions.
41 posted on 09/27/2005 3:06:15 PM PDT by Syco
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To: Past Your Eyes

42 posted on 09/27/2005 3:07:46 PM PDT by Rastus (Year 7: Harry Potter and the Heartbreak of Psoriasis)
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To: GrandEagle

By the way, not ALL of the Kiln was flooded, but there were significant portions underwater in the southeastern parts.


43 posted on 09/27/2005 3:08:07 PM PDT by Syco
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To: Syco
If you're in the area, stop in and ask for Connie if you'd like to help or if you have any questions.
Thanks for the info.
Hey, and thanks for the help! We down here on the Gulf Coast appreciate you taking your time to come down and help.
My family and I came through with very minor damage, but in talking with my friends there at the Dupont plant, they are very appreciative of the help. Your time makes a difference.

Cordially,
GE
44 posted on 09/27/2005 3:15:57 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Syco

Wow, thanks for the description. It really brings home the severity of everything. Just this last week, I have also been seeing things talking about the destruction in Mississippi. I didn't understand it either since the media wasn't talking about it like New Orleans.

Thanks again for setting the record straight. I get most of my news here on FR but even that I don't have time to catch the posts I woudl liek to see. At home, the boob tube is on the MSM outlets and boy do they have a different story to tell you.

I didn't mean to be so flippant with my comments. And I do believe you. I don't think you can make that stuff up.


45 posted on 09/27/2005 3:16:27 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Where is "Bayou Teche"? I remember as a California kid, being dragged to visit some antebellum mansion there, and then falling in love with the neat old place. I could taste the history there.


46 posted on 09/27/2005 3:17:10 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Cindy, ya shoulda stuck with "offshore drilling" as your cause)
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To: GrandEagle

It was an honor. I wish that I could have stayed for a month (though that heat is oppressive). I went with a group from my church, and strange as this may sound, while we did it for the people, we did it more for Him!


47 posted on 09/27/2005 3:23:24 PM PDT by Syco
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To: caver

I didn't think that you were being flippant. I'm hoping to give a full accounting to the folks on FR in a few days. I just got back a few days ago though and I'm slowly beginning to recover. It was a physically and emotionally taxing trip. I'll try to remember to ping you when I post it.


48 posted on 09/27/2005 3:25:35 PM PDT by Syco
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To: evets

Re you pic -- is that from the Jethro Tull family album?


49 posted on 09/27/2005 3:33:55 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Re you pic -- is that from the Jethro Tull family album?

He's growing his own salmon food...

50 posted on 09/27/2005 3:56:55 PM PDT by null and void (I'm a patient and peaceful man. Threaten me or mine, and that changes. Then, I am a vengeful man.)
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