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Republicans Ready for a Fight
none | 09/27/05 | J. Dunn

Posted on 09/27/2005 6:48:25 PM PDT by future F22 pilot

Republicans Ready for a Fight It has no been almost one year since the Republican Party received a huge mandate in the 2004 elections. The results: NOTHING. Not entirely nothing as some issues have progressed, but in moral and social issues we have gotten nowhere. By now you are probably either asking your self why or answering that question in you head. For those of you that might be a little bit behind, or are just preoccupied, here is the answer: Republicans in Congress and the White House are playing political games. With the exception of nominating Judge Roberts, President Bush is not pushing the issues we want to fight for: social security, school vouchers, Medicare and Medicaid cuts, less business restriction and tax reform. And neither are the Republicans in Congress, they are carefully stepping through the mine field not wanting to start a war. Well it’s time for that to end. We have been sitting hear for almost a year waiting and waiting. Our guns poised to fire and ready to fire, but no command has come down. No leader has taken charge and President Bush seems to be overly busy with other work. The Republican Party has fight in it, it just needs to be put to use, someone needs to light the fuse, and we need to stop wasting the precious months and years. Let’s Roll.


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To: Miss Marple

problem is we're not even moving in small steps.

The only steps we are taking is rather big steps in the wrong direction.

I know very well that the only way we're going to get back a constitutional government is by the same way it was taken from us- step by step.

But the two most important things to get there is A) Don't give up any more ground and B) actually work in that direction.

So far, I really haven't seen the republicans in power do anything like that. In fact, what they've seem to become adept at is spending like liberals and caving whenever the press turns up the heat.


81 posted on 09/27/2005 8:32:24 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: flashbunny
Well, I consider the tax cuts and the resultant boom in the economy a great victory. It is only the first step.

I don't know how you imbue people with courage, but judging from Chris Shays' performance today, there are quite a few who are a lost cause. And spending in some areas HAS been cut; it's just that the total budget has gone up, and some of that simply has to happen because of the increase in population.

There are other conservative issues besides spending, you know. Personal responsibility is one of them. I thnk the President has made great strides in making people accountable for their behavior. There is more to do, of course, but to say we have had no victories is untrue and a pessimistic way of looking at things.

82 posted on 09/27/2005 8:37:50 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Common Tator
IMO that is a good analysis, seems to make a lot of sense, has much insight.
I never looked at that way.
Thanks

Wolf
83 posted on 09/27/2005 8:46:45 PM PDT by RunningWolf (U.S. Army Veteran.....75-78)
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To: Pukin Dog; future F22 pilot
"Oh Jesus, shut up.

If you believe NOTHING has happened for our side, just shut up now. Right now."

Sorry, NO SALE...We ain't buyin' and we sure as hell ain't shutting up.

Take away the Wars and Dubya and the Pubbies have been freakin' wet noodles domestically.

If you want to count yourself as a Bush-Bot and settle for Alpo, then make it your gig.

84 posted on 09/27/2005 8:47:34 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Miss Marple

"Well, I consider the tax cuts and the resultant boom in the economy a great victory. It is only the first step."

One of a relative few.

Compared to what has been given away the ted kennedy education bill, to name one), the republican base is being sold out.

And what has it gotten us? It's like he and no republicans have ever learned that you can't buy the adoration of liberals or the press by selling out. They'll demonize you no matter what you do - so you might as well fight for your agenda and be demonized, instead of fighting for the other side and be demonized.


85 posted on 09/27/2005 9:02:33 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: flashbunny
The education bill's purpose is to make the schools ACCOUNTABLE. Doesn't it strike you as odd that the NEA is howling about it? Why is that? Because they have to PERFORM, and when they don't, they DON'T GET THE MONEY!

I am absolutely sick of people making such foolish assumptions as thinking that President Bush is trying to buy the affection of the liberals. Do you think he just fell off the turnip truck?

He has plans that go far beyond what will appear on TV next week or next month. The GOAL is making a nation of people who are responsible for themselves, and when that happens, we will not have people thinking they need big government!

Spare me the simplistic talking points. I don't agree and I am done explaining. Please try to take some time to think about this without the usual reaction.

86 posted on 09/27/2005 9:08:45 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple
ah yes, okay, because I don't buy into the spin, I'm not thinking things through.

What part of the new prescription drug benefit that the next generation will be paying for is part of the 'ownership society'?

Oh wait, you're done explaining things to me...never mind.

I swear, some people have the 'battered voter syndrome', where they accept anything from their leaders as long as the right letter is next to their name.

Would people be accepting this if it was Clinton signing the bills instead of Bush?

You know the answer. But don't worry, you don't have to 'explain' it to me.
87 posted on 09/27/2005 9:33:23 PM PDT by flashbunny (Do you believe in the Constitution only until it keeps the government from doing what you want?)
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To: Miss Marple
AMEN!

President Bush is the first Republican President in 80 years to be reelected while the GOP gained seats in the house and senate.

Fewer Democrats elected to senate since 1929 and more Republicans in the house since 1946.

Republicans have gained ground under the last 4 out of 5 presidents with the 5th having no impact.

We did not get here by moving to the hard right.

We are winning, next stop the SCOTUS. It's a good day to be a republican.
88 posted on 09/27/2005 9:49:11 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: future F22 pilot

"I am working on putting up a new site "

Good. Get it done then stay there.


89 posted on 09/27/2005 10:33:16 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: Bushiefan
Sounds to me like some people need a good dose of Rush Limbaugh optimism

Rush has optimism but is saying essentially the same thing. We have the 'force', lets use it.

90 posted on 09/27/2005 10:49:47 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Miss Marple
Thank you for that rant! Though I am late to this thread I just have to get this off my chest from the weekend. If you still have your "list" going is John Kasich on it? He too rushed like a lemming to pile on in the aftermath of the hurricanes....it was jaw-dropping.
91 posted on 09/27/2005 11:15:44 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: future F22 pilot

I'll believe it when I see it... we have a bunch of spineless worms in DC...


92 posted on 09/27/2005 11:18:04 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: 1035rep
"President Bush is the first Republican President in 80 years to be reelected while the GOP gained seats in the house and senate.

Fewer Democrats elected to senate since 1929 and more Republicans in the house since 1946.

Republicans have gained ground under the last 4 out of 5 presidents with the 5th having no impact.

We did not get here by moving to the hard right."

Your last statement says it all. RINOS and "compassionate conservatism" are killing the Republican Party.

What you hadn't said though is the GOP has appreciably compromised on principle in lieu of power at the expense of refusing to uphold American sovereignty, slacking on promoting conservatism tenets, infusing socialism, and caving in to globalist politics and policies.

With their so-called "domination of both houses AND the Presidency," they ought to have been shot-gunning their traditional agendae, but by now we know they're not AND won't.

The GOP has "won" alright, and it's called a "Pyrrhic victory."

93 posted on 09/28/2005 5:03:34 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
"The GOP has "won" alright, and it's called a "Pyrrhic victory."

We are still winning. Call it what you like. The GOP is currently filling the vacancies on the SCOTUS which is my #1 priority.

I'll take your so called RINO's any day when the alternative is the anti-american, anti-religion, Jewish hating liberals.

Now, you and your small entourage which are expected to arrive here shortly, can have this thread to do your usual GOP, GWB bashing, which is really all you ever have to offer.
94 posted on 09/28/2005 8:11:54 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

I'd say the size of that entourage you described will be determined in 06 and 08.


95 posted on 09/28/2005 8:13:34 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: future F22 pilot
I agree, but I don't think he had as much "capital" as some would like to claim... it was not a landslide by any stretch...

Still, I'd like to see more fire in the belly...

96 posted on 09/28/2005 8:20:41 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic (You cannot stop me, I'll just make...a "move"....)
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To: Black Tooth

I'm not worried. Not being conservative enough will never translate to a liberal vote.


97 posted on 09/28/2005 8:26:48 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: 1035rep

No it won't. But it will cause others to look for an alternate solution, to break away from the two party grip. This is becoming all too clear.


98 posted on 09/28/2005 8:41:20 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: 1035rep
"We are still winning. Call it what you like. The GOP is currently filling the vacancies on the SCOTUS which is my #1 priority."

We may be "winning" elections, but sliding into centrist ideology which dilutes the conservative principle the GOP is supposed to represent and manifest.

As to those SCOTUS vacancies, NO ONE seems to have a clue how it'll turn out.

Since the majority GOP House and Prez are so frightned to go toe-to-toe to fight tooth and nail with the Dems for their guy, history dictates the'll inevitably cave and compromise on at least one of the two Justices to be considered.

"I'll take your so called RINO's any day when the alternative is the anti-american, anti-religion, Jewish hating liberals."

Does it really matter when those RINOs are McCain, Snowe, Chafee, and Specter? Gimme a break.

"Now, you and your small entourage which are expected to arrive here shortly, can have this thread to do your usual GOP, GWB bashing, which is really all you ever have to offer."

While you and your cabal of Bots bury your heads in the sand pretending the GOP has achieved done more than take one step forward, and one back, WE will continue to point out the fiscally rabid, anti-sovereign, chick-sh*t tendencies of today's GOP.

99 posted on 09/28/2005 8:43:13 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: hombre_sincero
The national Republican party is not responsible for the failings of the Arkansas Republican party. The deterioration began when Senator Tim Hutchinson was defeated for reelection with the help of 'Christian' Republicans who insisted that his divorce and remarriage were a greater evil than electing a pro abortion RAT. The balance of power shifted and there hasn't been anybody to step in and give strong leadership since. Win Rockerfeller has brought some fiscal cleanup and responsibility to the party but with his illness there might not be much more help there. Asa Hutchinson was the last driving force to build the party and he is going to run for governor but I don't know if he is considered a pure enough conservative to get the support he needs to win. It is not easy to regain control of a state once it is lost.
100 posted on 09/28/2005 8:44:41 AM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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