Sioux nickname, logo ban upheld by NCAA

Star Tribune ^ | September 29, 2005 | Dean Spiros

[jaydubya]

Actually, I find their slogan "Don't Puck with the Sioux" more offensive.

[MNJohnnie]

Toll Free: 1-800-CALL-UND
Tel: 701-777-2011
Email: university_relations@und.edu

Tell'em to get a backbone and stand up to the NCAA.



Thanks, contacted them

[tanknetter]

I agree. If these PC idiots want to expunge Native American names from everything, I say we give them their wish. And replace them with American names.

A humble, stick-in-the-eye suggestion: drop the nickname, replace with "Cavalry" and adopt George Custer as the school mascot.

[wallcrawlr]

FYI:

thats not a UND slogan

[akorahil]

seconded (or thirded)
With the exception of this year, every time the Wild play their preseason game up there, I have made it.
Would that the Gophers had something so nice...

[Constitution Day]

LOL! The Fightin' Banshees.

[jaydubya]

So, every state college that has an indian name will be band from NCAA play? ie. Indiana, Illinois...

[Sometimes A River]

Freep the poll on http://espn.go.com/.

Bottom right of the page.

[ttikttak]

Being from Grand Forks which is home to the Fighting Sioux, I give you this editorial from the President of UND and a link to the Ralph Engelsted:

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/local/12768286.htm

http://www.theralph.com/new2/Arena_Info_Section/Arena_Info_Main.htm

Ralph owned a couple of casinos in Vegas. Just a little FYI. This whole thing is the talk of the town. It was mentioned we should call them the Fighting Snowballs :) Just Kidding.

[filbert]

Any place/team where the fans end the National Anthem with "land of the free and home of the (nickname)!" lacks class anyway.

That offends me much more than the "Sioux" nickname itself. But then, I grew up in a town where the college school's nickname was the "Scalpers." No kidding. Scalpers.

I suppose UND could always go back to their old nickname of the "Flickertails."

[eddie willers]

How about the "Lousy Liouxers"?

[wallcrawlr]

14,108 votes

88% YES
12% NO


thats a cool poll how it breaks it down by state

[wallcrawlr]

Grew up in GF too.

[wallcrawlr]

College softball team.
We called ourselves the "Screaming Banshees". Big flaming, flying, screaming baseball logo on the front.

[wallcrawlr]

Agreed...its not a favorite of mine to hear crowds do that. It does happen alot in many places. To me it seems disrespectful.

But then again it does make the anthem personal for everyone.

I understand why people use the nickname in the anthem and at the same time wish they didnt.

I dont lose sleep at night over it though.

[Miles the Slasher]

Pretty moronic. The "Fighting Sioux" is meant to be honorable, as few mascots are chosen to reflect dishonorably on a school or team. I'm Irish, and don't object to the "Fighting Irish" of ND, or even the pugnacious leprechaun logo.

Would the NCAA or the Sioux object if North Dakota changed its name to the "Fighting 7th Cavalry"?

[Miles the Slasher]

"This will just get PETA involved:

Tigers, Bulldogs, Gators, Cardinals, Bears, Wildcats, Gamecocks...

Unbelievable..."

Would the PC crowd be happy if the names was
changed to the "Fighting Sue". The logo would
be a heavyset, short-haired, butch feminist.

[laredo44]

The powers-that-be at the NCAA must understand that the majority of American Indians rigidly opposed the use of Indians as mascots for America's sporting events. If one or two tribes think it is all right, does that mean they then become the majority? Isn't this a nation where majority rules?

Are you a professional obfuscater? Nowhere in your reference did I get an idea of where the majority of American Indians stood on the subject of mascots. Yes, some sort of "leadership" has taken a stance but that is like the National Council of Churches professing support of gay marriage when the sentiment of their members opposes it. It is like the leadership of the state of New York opposing capital punishment under Mario Cuomo while the majority of citizens favored it. It is like the leadership of Iraq, in 2000, proclaiming the people loved Saddam Hussein when who really knew what the populace thought.

In other words, your argument sucks.

[utahagen]

Give it fifteen or twenty years, and you won't hear "The Fighting Irish" anymore, either. Impossible? Well, who would have believed two decades ago that men would be marrying men and women marrying women (legally) in Massachusetts?

[wallcrawlr]

Haha...I like how you summarized his view. Good one.