Skip to comments.Israelis urge U.S. to stop Iran's nuke goals
Posted on 09/30/2005 5:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies
The United States and its allies must act to stop Iran's nuclear programs -- by force if necessary -- because conventional diplomacy will not work, three senior Israeli lawmakers from across the political spectrum warned yesterday. As a last resort, they said, Israel itself would act unilaterally to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear arms. Iran will not be deterred "by anything short of a threat of force," said Arieh Eldad, a member of Israel's right-wing National Union Party, part of a delegation of Knesset members visiting Washington this week. "They won't be stopped unless they are convinced their programs will be destroyed if they continue," he said. Yuval Steinitz, chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, said the best hope was for the United States and other major powers to make it clear to Iranian leaders now there was "no chance they will ever see the fruits of a nuclear program." "Threats of sanctions and isolation alone will not do it," said Mr. Steinitz. Yosef Lapid, head of the centrist opposition Shinui Party in the Knesset, added that Israel "will not live under the threat of an Iranian nuclear bomb."
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Looks like Isreal has concluded that the buck has been passed to them.
"We feel we are obliged to warn our friends that Israel should not be pushed into a situation where we see no other solution but to act unilaterally" against Iran...
I wonder who, other than the U.S., Israel counts as friends.
Britain, France and Germany have it all under control, politically speaking.
Yep. It's getting to the point where it's become obvious that the UN has once again failed to resolve a crisis situation with their "diplomacy". Israel has the most to lose if Iran gets nukes. The mullahs must be stopped or Israel & Iran will start lobbing nukes at each other.
If he was representative of Israeli determination and the nature of that determination still exists today, I cannot fault your conclusion.
Israel knows it is the prime target of Iran and Ahmedinejad. I would rather the U.S. take action, but I am beginning to have my doubts as to our political will (at least based on what the administration is saying).
On the other hand, Iraq might have been a first step toward moving against Iran. With a regime change in Iran, Iraq would have a much better chance of success and Israel would be able to breathe for a while. But with the Revolutionary guard firmly in the grasp of Ahmedinejad, I don't see an internal rebellion succeeding without external military action.
They should do it themselves, stop dragging the US deeper into the ME.
I'm sorry to say we don't have the will. There are too many country club PUBS around Bush now. Iraq is tough right now and everyone is nervous, congress won't control spending, border control is a joke and a huge SCOTUS nominee battle is about to be fought.
As in the past Israel stands alone.
One day, the Iranians will wake up and say:
"Some one set us up the bomb!"
---They should do it themselves, stop dragging the US deeper into the ME.---
You don't think we have an interest in the Iranians developing nuclear weapons?
With our forces in the theater, will they let them pass or ask them to turn away.
I have my own pet theory on how Israel will pull it off, but as they Jim Rob says, loose lips.... (no I am not a military or intelligence type, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last Night...)
Then again, what if Israel allied with another force for a 2 pronged attack, India perhaps?
Come on now...let us hear it. I'm sure Iran has considered all the angles.
They know what the IDF knows, if not more.
When it happens, it will be a joint operation, probably involving massive air assets from the 509th Bomb Wing, the IDF, and American tactical air. There are a lot of targets that need to be struck at once and in a single day. It will have to be a surprise attack.
Be Seeing You,
I agree...the groundwork is being laid for a powerful and comprehensive strike that will probably not only take out the nuke capability but open Iran up to an overturn of the current government.
Israel should take care of it themselves.
Iran won't be pressured either by China or Russia. Obviously this is up to the US, and of course, our many allies in western Europe.
Why tell US and not do it on their own? Israel with one of the world's best Air Force, and it should be a piece of cake to do it on their own even without the help of US. America won't intervene, and will wave hands as they pass over Iraq.
There will be a nationalist rallying to the flag, but after a while, it will sputter.
Be Seeing You,
Just guessing, of course, but I think the taking out of the nukes would present an opportunity for getting rid of the entire hardline government. And as long as Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollahs are in power, they are going to threaten Iraq. In fact, when we leave Iraq, I think they will slide in (unless they are gone).
In the same way the lookout on the Titanic should have taken the wheel and steered the ship to safety by himself.
Here folks is an example of how deep hatred of Israel is in some. A nuclear Iran would be a disaster for the United States. It was American hostages that Iran took, remember.
But as a nuclear Iran would be a danger to Israel, the hate Israel uber alles folks would rather see the US suffer too then that Israel gain.
And yet Israel remains the Little Satan to the US Big Satan.
Israel should be insulted and demand a co-Big Satan promotion before it takes out the Iran nukes on its own.
Or taking them out could be a way to move up.
Yep, they will not stop. To do otherwise would be disobedient to Allah.
The guiding principles of Allah and his prophet are "hate" and "destruction."
Very good points. In addition, the current Iranian régime has Mahdi fever
Once the demented anti-Western mindset of the Iranian dictatorship is really studied the question should be asked, why are these lunatics remaining in power, knowing these jihad promoting tyrants are a menace to the global economic security.
Thx for the links re: the Mahdi.
The jihadic enemy's ultimate end result is to "cleanse" the entire globe of all "infidels" and then their 'Expected One' (The Mahadi) can emerge, thus Islamic terrorist financing OPEC Iran, with an offensive nuclear arsenal, is the civilized world's greatest security threat. A threat which must be countered expeditiously.
Ardent fundamentalist Islamists, as a rule, will not disuse anything regarding the Mahdi with "infidels'.
One movie depicting a Mahdi figure during the 1880's in The Sudan was the 1966 Cinerama epic "Khartoum" with a fine cast as well as the film's moving orchestral suite.
at first i thought that was the icelandic flag and i thought "they're threatining EVERYBODY aren't they?"
"Israel should take care of it themselves."
I wouldn't be surprised to one day read that they did.
History is a wonderful teacher.
Elie Weisel said, "Never again."
I'd take it to the bank.
Here it comes!
Waste them or be wasted by them. One nuke on Tel Aviv and Israel is finished. They can unleash massive retaliation but crazed Ayatollahs don't care. I only pray that Mecca/Medina get obliterated
Isaac versus Ishmael.
Islam is founded on hatred and destruction of the true children of Abraham. And as much as some Jews hate it...the redheaded stepchildren of Abraham (the Christians) are right there with 'em, and we ain't leaving til the fat lady sings.
This Jewboy know the righteous Christian Evangelicals got our backs! Even if so many of my fellow Jews don't get it or like it. Just adds to the beauty of the situation and solution. The solution (end game) will be too much for anyone to handle on a rational basis
And then stop at my favorite NYC deli (if it's still around)...Shapiro and Fine's on West 78th. I'll take a pastrami on rye with cole slaw and Russian dressing.
I know in my bones you are correct. Like modern art, I know what is really great...but I can't say why. What is coming is a beautiful thing...but I think we (at least, I) will just sit and admire its awesomeness.
this here Jew stretches his hand in friendship to you my 'red headed' son of Abraham.
we will either survive or fall together.
Thx, step bro...let's get em!
I agree that they will. They will be attacked by Iran, they will retaliate and retaliate hard, and the followers of Islam will regret the day they started something they could not finish.
And the whole world will be safer after that because the anti-war pukes in this world will finally realize you can't trust the word of terrorists.