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Judge Orders 17-Year-Old Girl Not To Have Sex [also prohibited tattoos, body piercings...
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Posted on 09/30/2005 7:42:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Judge Orders 17-Year-Old Girl Not To Have Sex

POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 30, 2005

SHERMAN, Texas -- No sex. That's part of a sentence imposed on a 17-old-girl by Texas state district judge Lauri Blake.

She's ordered the young drug offender not have sex as long as she is living with her parents and attending school, as a condition of her probation.

It is one of several unorthodox rulings Judge Lauri Blake has imposed since she was elected 10 months ago in the district court that covers Fannin and Grayson counties.

She has also prohibited tattoos, body piercings, earrings and clothing "associated with the drug culture" for those on probation.

Lawyers are also subject to her rulings. Blake has the told female attorneys not wear sleeveless shirts or show cleavage in her courtroom.

Blake agreed to an interview but later declined through her court coordinator.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: courtruling; itsjustsex; juveniledelinquency; libertinarians; minor; probation; sex; teensex; texas
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tough love....
1 posted on 09/30/2005 7:42:22 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
The nerve of this judge.... (sarcasm)
2 posted on 09/30/2005 7:44:01 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Sub-Driver

That will hold up on appeal...


3 posted on 09/30/2005 7:44:05 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Sub-Driver

Who is going to check to see if she is having sex? and who is going to pay to find out if she is having sex?


Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes.


4 posted on 09/30/2005 7:44:41 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: Borges

By the time an appeal goes through, it won't matter.


5 posted on 09/30/2005 7:45:31 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Rightly Biased

Maybe the judge is doing his job. I doubt he needs to "pander" for votes. Judges often attach special conditions to probation. If she doesn't like it, she can always go to jail. If it was my daughter, I would be very happy with the judge.


6 posted on 09/30/2005 7:46:34 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Sub-Driver

Seems to be in direct conflict with the recent ruling by the Oregon Sup Ct that public sex is a protected form of expression and therefore not to be prohibited in any way. I can hear the TX ACLU chomping at the bit on this one.


7 posted on 09/30/2005 7:47:23 AM PDT by drt1
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To: Sub-Driver
This is government doing the mommy-daddy thing....that wasn't done.
It won't work. It's too late; the cake is baked.

Also, it's not always the parents' fault. Some people are always going to do what they want to do and no one is going to stop them.
If she is one of those, she WILL land in hot water.

8 posted on 09/30/2005 7:47:35 AM PDT by starfish923 (It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
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To: Sub-Driver
While I applaud the spirit, this ruling strikes me as really, really stupid.

Judges should tell people when (or when not) to have sex? Judges are in charge of who can have a tattoo?

Do we love judicial activism so much that we want it down to such low level personal decisions? Be aware: I hope the girl follows the judge's advice -- it's good advice. But not something I think should be handed down by a court of law.

9 posted on 09/30/2005 7:49:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: mlc9852

Again who is gonna check and see if she is?

Who is gonna prove is she is or not?

Who is gonna pay for the checkups you and me?

Pandering


10 posted on 09/30/2005 7:49:40 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: Sub-Driver

How can that possibly be Constitutional? I mean, I know it's feel-good and moral and all. But what about when judges on the other side come up with moonbat rulings like the defendent is required to read Karl Marx or something? Judges don't have the power to stop people from having sex. And if they do, they shouldn't.


11 posted on 09/30/2005 7:49:41 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh well. I'm sure she'll be fine now.


12 posted on 09/30/2005 7:50:12 AM PDT by Huck (Are there any fiscal conservatives left?)
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To: Sub-Driver

How can she ever get an abortion if she doesn't have sex? Silly judge.


13 posted on 09/30/2005 7:50:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: starfish923

How do they actually know if she's having sex?


14 posted on 09/30/2005 7:50:43 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Solitary confiement would satisfy all these requirements.


15 posted on 09/30/2005 7:51:04 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Rightly Biased

You obviously don't know much about probation, which is probably a good thing.


16 posted on 09/30/2005 7:51:10 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: ClearCase_guy

Under probation a judge can attach special conditions. If she wasn't on probation he couldn't. Simple really.


17 posted on 09/30/2005 7:51:52 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mysterio

""How can that possibly be Constitutional? I mean, I know it's feel-good and moral and all. But what about when judges on the other side come up with moonbat rulings like the defendent is required to read Karl Marx or something? Judges don't have the power to stop people from having sex. And if they do, they shouldn't.""

I believe you are missing the issue - the defendent has 2 options, to go to jail (juvenule detention?) or to remain free under conditions set by the judge. There are conditions to either option. It is up to the girl.


18 posted on 09/30/2005 7:52:54 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Rightly Biased

Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes


I tell my 16 year old daughter not to have sex and I'm not a judge pandering for votes. In fact I think this judge has great courage giving this ruling knowing that that some anti-family lawyer will try to overturn it on appeal.


19 posted on 09/30/2005 7:53:27 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: drt1

who cares what an oregon socialist MASTER says - this is TEXAS!


20 posted on 09/30/2005 7:54:10 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.spadata.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
I suppose it had not occured to the girl's parents.

"But mom, everybody's getting these drug-culture tattoos and piercings. You people are so square and I can't wait to move out!"

21 posted on 09/30/2005 7:54:12 AM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: mlc9852
I understand that this judge is interfering in stuff that they really have no control over and that I have to pay for his pandering.

Again who is gonna check and see if she is having sex?

Who is gonna pay for it?
22 posted on 09/30/2005 7:54:29 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: Rightly Biased

"Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes."

You know when the election is, then. Please share it with us. I will support this judge.


23 posted on 09/30/2005 7:55:06 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Judges should tell people when (or when not) to have sex?

Parents should and do. In this case, the State is acting in the place of the parent for the good of the child.

While the ruling is practically unenforceable, so are many parental "rulings." Silence would be seen as consent, so the State is justified in speaking out.

24 posted on 09/30/2005 7:56:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Judges should tell people when (or when not) to have sex? Judges are in charge of who can have a tattoo?

Condition of probation. I imagine the yout' could always decline the terms of probation and remain in jail.

25 posted on 09/30/2005 7:56:51 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: InsureAmerica

What if the judge orders the girl not to vote Republican as a condition? Or if the judge orders an abortion? Are you cool with that, too? Or are you only cool with this because it has a feel-good moral flavor mixed in with the judicial activism?


26 posted on 09/30/2005 7:57:18 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

The judge is not the parent

pandering

I tell my Three daughters that all the time as well. And If I think they are having sex I will pay to find out if I can.
I sure don't need a judge to tell the taxpayers to pay for the check for me.

pandering


27 posted on 09/30/2005 7:57:46 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: Sub-Driver

While her rulings are kind of strange, I applaud her for having a dress code in her court room.


28 posted on 09/30/2005 7:57:51 AM PDT by JimDingle (Give Dingle a Jingle)
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To: Sub-Driver

This judge has as much legal authority to order to *stop* having sex as she does to order her to *have* sex.


29 posted on 09/30/2005 7:58:03 AM PDT by gdani
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To: mysterio

""What if the judge orders the girl not to vote Republican as a condition? Or if the judge orders an abortion? Are you cool with that, too? Or are you only cool with this because it has a feel-good moral flavor mixed in with the judicial activism?""

What if pigs flew out my ass? What if, what, if?????

I think you are being ridiculous. When a judge orders that, then I'll comment on it.


30 posted on 09/30/2005 7:58:45 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: gdani

That's true.


31 posted on 09/30/2005 7:59:08 AM PDT by Romish_Papist (New photos on my FR Page.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Normally when someone is on probation they have to pay a certain amount each month. It certainly isn't a free ride if that's what you are implying. And they also have to pay for drug screens and the like. So you can relax.


32 posted on 09/30/2005 7:59:25 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: VeniVidiVici

Who is gonna check to see if she violates said probation?


33 posted on 09/30/2005 7:59:42 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: mysterio

Seems to me the judge wouldn't have had to order a damned thing if this girl wouldn't have been in her court. Right?


34 posted on 09/30/2005 7:59:56 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: mlc9852
Under probation a judge can attach special conditions. If she wasn't on probation he couldn't. Simple really.

Presently, judges all across the country can make up any legislation they want and force elected officials to like it.

I'm just pointing out that some of this stuff sticks in my craw. Judges think they are legislators and now they think they are Mommy and Daddy. What they really are is a bunch of oligarchs.

35 posted on 09/30/2005 8:01:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: InsureAmerica

Won't answer the question? I guess then I have to assume you support judicial activism when the judge mimics your ideology.


36 posted on 09/30/2005 8:01:47 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ClearCase_guy

Do you know anything about conditions of probation?


37 posted on 09/30/2005 8:02:26 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mysterio

I answered the question. When a judge orders what you have mentioned, let me know and we can discuss it. You haven't commented on pigs flying out of my ass. Refuse to do so, because it doesn't support your wacko activist agenda here??


38 posted on 09/30/2005 8:03:23 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Rightly Biased

If your daughters were on probation, then the judge could set conditions. If they aren't on probation, you have nothing to worry about.


39 posted on 09/30/2005 8:03:24 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

I'm sure the probation fee will cover obgyn fees to see if she is having sex. < /sarc>


40 posted on 09/30/2005 8:03:34 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: InsureAmerica
Seems to me the judge wouldn't have had to order a damned thing if this girl wouldn't have been in her court. Right?

So, you support judicial activism when it applies to criminals? It's ok for judges to force their moral views on criminals as a condition of probation? You are ok with liberal judges forcing conservative people to follow liberal morals as a condition of probation?
41 posted on 09/30/2005 8:04:51 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: ClearCase_guy

Probation is not a right, and, if a judge sees fit to impose it, he/she may impose any condition she wants if it arguably is aimed at preventing illicit behavior. Only if the perp is violated because of this no sex provision and subsequently imprisoned would habeas corpus apply, ergo no immediate appeal. Sorry, libs.








42 posted on 09/30/2005 8:05:05 AM PDT by Dionysius (ACLU is the enemy)
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To: mlc9852

I don't need a judge telling me that my daughters can or cannot have sex.

Just to fit some activist judges adgenda


43 posted on 09/30/2005 8:05:55 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: InsureAmerica

I'm not the one supporting judicial activism and being a hypocrite. If not wanting judges to impose their own definition of sexual morality as a condition of probation is wacko, then I guess I'm a wacko.


44 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:11 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

You know me? you know what I do for a living? What my political leanings are? where I live, my address, my health, my financial position, my position on the issues of the day, the ages of my children, how many cars I have?
My religion?

The answer to all of the above is NO, you don't. So, we conclude you know nothing at all about me, yet for some amazing reason you know I "support judicial activism when the judge mimics my idealogy" You are amazing. Ever think about having your own talk show??


45 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:44 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: InsureAmerica

Not only in her court, but a convicted, minor in her court.

I get tired of hearing about convicts rights. Convicts give up rights. They do not have the right to freedom, to carry weapons, association, to vote, etc.

A minor can certainly lose the "right" to have intercourse.


46 posted on 09/30/2005 8:06:48 AM PDT by FarmerW
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What I'm asking is do you support judicial activism when it doesn't agree with your personal moral beliefs, or do you only support it when it does?
47 posted on 09/30/2005 8:08:28 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: drt1

What powers does the Oregon State Constitution have over the people of Texas?


48 posted on 09/30/2005 8:09:57 AM PDT by SolarisRocks
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To: FarmerW

Absolutely. Too bad some here can't seem to get it.

Like the joke-- 2 liberals find a man horribly beaten and mugged, lying in a ditch. One looks to the other and says, "we have to find the person who did this, he needs our help"


49 posted on 09/30/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: mysterio

I am sure we define judicial activism differently. I am positive about it, but to answer your question - I support neither.


50 posted on 09/30/2005 8:11:33 AM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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