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UK: Boy, 10, held for firing a toy weapon
Surrey Online (UK) ^ | 9/29/05 | Stephanie Turner

Posted on 09/30/2005 11:03:44 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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To: kiriath_jearim

"The boy had pestered his dad so much that he eventually gave in and bought the pistol from a Horley toy shop"

I guess we know who wears the pants in this family...The kid.


21 posted on 09/30/2005 11:28:00 AM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Liberal definition of looting: " Self-help Humanitarian Aid.")
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To: kiriath_jearim

"Owen can be so impulsive. He would climb up a tree and not even think of the consequences."

What the hell is this? Is a 10 year old supposed to wear a chute or something when climbibg a tree?


22 posted on 09/30/2005 11:29:23 AM PDT by cannonball
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

"you will have a generation on your hands that doesn't know which end of the tube the round comes out of and you idiots will all be captives..."

The left lives in an odd little world where they dream that one day there will be no wars. Oddly enough, they embrace muslims too. Does anyone else see the flaw there?

I was watching the history channel the other day, and there was a story of a marine in WWII who was in a foxhole, and held off about 200 Japanese single handed. He had positional advantage, and a superior weapon, (the point of the program). But they also noted that he was a farm boy who had spent many hours on the farm shooting, and that without doubt saved his life.


23 posted on 09/30/2005 11:32:49 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

"Exactly! In a generation, anyone with any gumption will have been medicated or psychoweenied to the point they will just shuffle along with the rest. God help us!"

It's a scary precedent when changeable behaviors suddenly turn into mental disorders that require medication. Some kids just need a little more maturity than others, ADHD diagnosis is a lazy way to fix that. My folks are good parents and mean well, but they were fooled by psychonannies into thinking I have some ficticious mental problem that required medication, and so I've been on 3 different medications for it over the course of my stay in public schools. One of those really did help my concentration because it pumped me so full of stimulants and other crap, then it did something to me to cause nervous tics like I had tourettes syndrome. They mostly went away after I got off that medication, but I still have little remnants of it once in a while when I'm feeling under high stress. It's hardly noticeable now and doesn't interfere with anything thankfully. After I graduated high school and finished my first year of college, I got off the other meds on my own and nothing changed except my attitude and a realization that I'd been duped into expensive treatments for nothing. Afterwards for a couple of years whenever I'd make bad grades my parents would say I need to be back on meds, but they've finally backed off that position and don't even bring it up anymore. It's a tragedy how normal people are being fooled into pumping their children with expensive and harmful medications with the best of intentions, all because some pinhead with five degrees throws psychobabble at them and tells them their kids have a serious problem. I have proven along with many others I'm sure that ADHD is nothing more than an expensive label for laziness and lack of maturity and discipline.


24 posted on 09/30/2005 11:33:46 AM PDT by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: sandbar

"When the free world is completely taken over by a society who is NOT afraid to raise warriors, nobody complain".



Growing up, my heros were Daniel Boone, William Wallace, and others like them. Later, I signed on as an assistant scoutmaster, and the kids all worshipped Micheal Jackson.
I don't know how to turn it around, liberals are a protected species.


25 posted on 09/30/2005 11:33:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Owen has suffered with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) since the age of five.

OMG!! The lad is a BOY! Throw him in prison now and throw away the key! He won't take his DRUGS to subdue him into being a girlie-boy!

I have a great idea of what to do with psychiatrist/psychologists/and other witch doctors who prescribe drugging MALE human beings!

It begins with a dull rusty knife!


26 posted on 09/30/2005 11:33:49 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.spadata.com)
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To: calljack

"Was it a toy or was it a pellet gun. "

I'm guessing it's the same thing my son has. An "airsoft" pellet gun. It shoots round plastic pellets, about 4x the size of a bb. The muzzle velocity of a good one is 175 feet per second. Couldn't break a window with one of these. As long as my son wears goggles, he and his friends shoot each other all the time.


27 posted on 09/30/2005 11:35:15 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"Owen can be so impulsive. He would climb up a tree and not even think of the consequences."

Climb a tree! Oh no!
28 posted on 09/30/2005 11:39:25 AM PDT by montanus
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To: kiriath_jearim

Orwell was only 20 years off in his reckoning. Not bad.


29 posted on 09/30/2005 11:40:45 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: montanus

"Climb a tree! Oh no!"

Sometimes I change the channel without thinking twice. Maybe I should schedule an appointment with a psychologist.


30 posted on 09/30/2005 11:45:05 AM PDT by Firefigher NC (Volunteer firefighters- standing tall, serving proud in the tradition of Ben Franklin.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

'you'll shoot your eye out' ping


31 posted on 09/30/2005 12:00:04 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Firefigher NC
"It's so difficult to explain to someone about ADHD. "Owen can be so impulsive. He would climb up a tree and not even think of the consequences."

Dammit this pisses me off....what BOY ever thought of the consequences of climbing trees. ADHD is just some poor, made up excuse to make being a BOY a disease..

32 posted on 09/30/2005 12:00:10 PM PDT by lovecraft
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To: kiriath_jearim

Did they put him in a pretend jail cell? Seems like that would be the only just punishment for firing a pretend gun.


33 posted on 09/30/2005 12:13:57 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Abathar
Was it a Red Ryder?

:-)

34 posted on 09/30/2005 12:21:22 PM PDT by Dog (I can't give that information Chief in the open..... I demand the cone of silence.)
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To: Dog
Nope, just a cheap $12 spring cocked daisy pistol, but to a 5th grader it was the greatest thing this side of heaven.
35 posted on 09/30/2005 12:39:47 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: yankeedame

"Above the age of criminal responsibility?Above?? What heck does that mean? That he is too old for criminal responsibility? Or that he is superior to criminal responsibility, i.e. "Cesar's wife must be above suspicion." Either English-English really is different from American-English, or this was written by a lousy journalist and a worse editor."

Think it must be the first option, it makes perfect sense to me!

A child reaches the age of criminal responsibility on his 10th birthday. This child, having reached that point, is above the age of criminal responsibility. As opposed to a child of 9 who would be below the age of criminal responsibility.


36 posted on 10/01/2005 12:36:59 AM PDT by Canard
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To: RockinRight
Mrs Smith and her son were taken to the police station where Owen had his fingerprints and DNA taken before being put in to a cell.

The DNA thing is a nice touch, isn't it? SHEESH.

37 posted on 10/01/2005 9:26:42 PM PDT by planekT (Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player.)
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