Posted on 09/30/2005 1:48:38 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
Increased output from the Sun might be to blame for 10 to 30 percent of global warming that has been measured in the past 20 years, according to a new report.
Increased emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases still play a role, the scientists say.
But climate models of global warming should be corrected to better account for changes in solar activity, according to Nicola Scafetta and Bruce West of Duke University.
The findings were published online this week by the journal Geophysical Research Letters.
(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...
All I can say is duh...
There's been solid evidence of this for some time now.
I suppose the Dems think it's our fault Mars is getting warmer too.
My furnace kicked on for the first time last night.
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BUSH CHANGED THE SUN!!!! OH, MY GOSH, HE'S AT IT AGAIN!!!! WILL HE NEVER STOP AT DESTROYING THE WORLD!!!!!
Mine too-we had a low of 39.
Sun of a Bush's Fault !!
We know this is the scientific fact, but it must be disregarded and discredited by the Old Media so that the RAT party can gain traction on the issue of W being responsible for global warming.
......if only Dubya had signed the Kyoto Protocol....
I bet it is closer to 50%. "Septics" have been saying this for years. Of course global warmers will scour this study with a toothbrush and criticize it and denounce the authors, meanwhile they will blindly accept pro-global warming studies. That is the state of 'science' today.
wow. I didn't know there was a VRWC sun control machine.
Suprise, surprise. that theory has been advanted to help explain ice ages forever,
Cant blame W for sun. If you look close enough you can see Hillary's ugly scowl on the sun.
funny how they really don't factually know why the earth is warming yet they can come up with some figure that represents the % that the sun contributes to global warming. Knowing how innacurate computer models are, the sun could be 86.7% responsible for global warming and the rest can be attricuted to the hot air that these politically motivated scientest spew out.
Well, maybe not the mini SUV's.
-PJ
BUT W is a "son."
"There's been solid evidence of this for some time now."
Yes, but now they want to say it's only a partial cause.
Got to hang on before completley crushed.
Don't you know Bush-Hitler conspired with the Jooos to turn up the Sun's thermostat so they could throw massive profits to big oil corporations, give out huge no-bid contracts to Halliburton and give Israel an excuse to rape and murder all the Palestinians as they always do every day?
LOL!!
Yeah, but the sun is so far away!!
Already, eco-ACLU lawyers are filing a lawsuit against their arch-enemy -- GOD!
how interesting - the sun may play a role in global warming!
I read somewhere that it has an even GREATER effect during summer months. WOW!
Google "mass of the solar system" and you'll discover that 99.8 percent resides in the Sun.
All the rest, the inner planets, the asteroid belt, the clouds of cosmic dust, the gas giants that are almost big enough to become stars in their own right-- are the rest.
It only makes sense that the Sun is the master controller. And there's not a darn thing we can do to affect it, either.
Yeah that and about 100 other improvements. These models, while sophisticated, are still a joke. One of the most popular computer models (the GCM I think) fails to adequately account for the increase in cloud cover resultant from an increase in temperature. It also fails to account for the fact that see what has salt and thus behaves differenlty than fresh water.
If they are missing out on a little thing like clouds and sea water what else are they missing?
"Correct, in the same article they say they don't know how much of the sun's energy is reflected vs. absorbed and therefore how sensitive we are to it - yet they throw out a number 10% to 30% knowing full well that they have no real idea."
Exactly!! You recognized a tactic of the left....to get ahead of the curve and establish a ficticious number that you repeat over and over until it becomes fact. There is no basis for this number but that does not matter. What matters to the eco-extremists and their political allies is how to mitigate the public perception of the news reports indicating polar ice caps on Mars are melting without human activity. While you admit the obvious because you have to, you discount the evidence your own conclusions are bogus by marginalizing the new information.
Same old left.......same old lies!
PresidentFelon
Allow me to be the first to say, "it was Bush's fault". ;)
Hey, pass that federal grant money around.
This can mean only one thing. Karl's perfected the "Rovian Solar Manipulator Mark I"
Don't forget: Boys and girls are different
It's been tried. I think the latest attempt was led by some Germans & involved getting loads of people to jump at the same time. I think the jump date was July 20th, but don't quote me.
Funny- but it wouldn't have worked. I studied this in physics today, about newton's third law, and how totally ineffective it would be. Even if everyone in the world jumped, it still would be pointless. And have they ever tried to get a lot of people to do the same thing at the same time before?
There was a thread about it & it devolved into FReeper fun & frivolity pretty quickly. I don't think there was any conclusion made about the number of Saturn rockets would be needed to get the job done. Also on that thread, I was given conflicting conclusions about the value of jumping in a plunging elevator at the last fraction of a second before it touched down.
Hell yea.... didn't you know we sent two SUV's up there, and they're driving all over the place; 4 wheelin; havin a good ol time.
That's so unfair! Where's God gonna get a lawyer?
I can rest peacefully at night knowing that my fleet of SUV's are not contributing to global warming.
Better advise people that they should look at your posted photograph, rather than the sun directly.
Yeah, but it would be different if you were using cows.
It's Bush's fault!
Well, Bush *did* say he wants us to go to Mars, didn't he? That's all the moonbats need to connect the dots and conclude that Bush has already started global warming on Mars.
The problem is if the sun has begun warming...why? Is this part of a warming/ cooling cycle of the sun?
Is it gonna go Nova?
I'm so glad you posted this. I've been reading a little about this, and it makes so much more sense. I reason that if you think about the Earth's tilting (pardon my limited vocabulary here) during the changing of seasons, which causes changes of temperature up to 80 degrees or more, it's makes all the since in the world that the slightest change in the Sun's temperature would affect the planets which orbit it.
"Is it gonna go Nova? "
It will expand into a massive red giant swallowing the orbits of Earth and Mars. It will collapse and form a giant planetary nebula similar to the many beautiful pictures of other dying stars Hubble space telescope has seen. All this in 5 billion years. We better get working on warp drive ;)
The sun has a normal 22 year cycle. There are probably many more cycles we have no clue about. And things that just happen as well.
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