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Hillary makes eyes at a perfect mate (Clinton/Obama 2008?)
London Times ^ | Oct. 2, 2005 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 10/01/2005 6:22:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: johnny7
McBlame doesn't scare me as much as Hillary/Obama, but in either case it would take a miracle for them to win. Hillary cannot pull off a centrist platform for very long. She and her UGLY pantsuits cannot run from her own written word's. She cannot pull one more vote from blacks or women that John Kerry did, because the level if visceral hatred was and is so high. When you add in the Howard Dean, George Soro's (sp?) and Michael Moore's, the shift to the left is so severe that they turn off folks in the middle. The best part is that they are too stupid to understand this.
121 posted on 10/02/2005 6:24:20 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: SpringheelJack; FairOpinion
IMHO there are several reasons Hillary Clinton may decide not to run for US Senate in 2006. The impact on her run for the Senate for some of these reasons is not quantifiable at this time.

1) At some point in time Hillary is going to have to decide if she is going to run for President. All of us believe there is absolutely no doubt Hillary will run for the Presidency in 2008. What will the impact on Hillary's Senate run be if she announces her intention to run for the presidency during her Senate campaign? What will the impact on Hillary's run for President be if she announces during her Senate run her attention to serve a full term but reneges on that promise?

2) What if Hillary wins the Senate race but falls far short of her predicted margin of victory expectations? A close race in New York, an extremely liberal state, means Hillary has huge problems in a national election. It seems far more logical for Hillary to announce her intention to seek the presidency in 2006 as a reason for foregoing the Senate run.

3) If Hillary were to lose her Senate seat, no matter how slim the possibility, 2008 is over.

4) What will happen if Hillary decides not to run and a Republican wins the US Senate race in NY?

5) Running for the Presidency as a Senator is almost an impossible approach for winning. Hillary as a Senator will have a Senate voting record to defend. She will not only have to defend that voting record against Republicans but also against Democrats. Why not let the opposition (mostly Senators from both parties at this point) have records to defend while you concentrate full time on your presidential campaign a year before anyone else and not have a Senate record to defend later?

6) What if the Republicans increase their majority in the Senate in 2006? What is the value of remaining in the Senate for Hillary or any other Democrat seeking the Presidency if this happens? IMHO a Hillary Senate run is not a sure thing.

122 posted on 10/02/2005 7:09:37 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: hflynn

1) Not a reason.
2) Pure cowardice, and what a way to deflate enthusiasm for you.
3) Rather irrelevant. If she can't win the Senate in '06 then she never had a hope of winning the presidency anyway. Ducking the race will just postpone and magnify the inevitable humiliating defeat.
4) Don't see the "reason" here.
5) Another two years of Senate votes can't add much ammunition if she's smart about it. It can also do good, again if you're smart about it.
6) Don't really see much of a reason here either. If being in the minority was that bad 15 people would quit every election year, wouldn't they?


123 posted on 10/02/2005 7:20:59 AM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: FairOpinion

I can't imagine a female on one part of the ticket (a first) and a black on the other part of the ticket (a first) and both liberals. The public has to be convinced that one of them (the one at the top of the ticket) has the cajones to defend the country. I say it never happens.


124 posted on 10/02/2005 7:24:49 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: golfisnr1

He has already admitted that parts of his biography are fiction. How do you elect someone who lies in their published biography?


125 posted on 10/02/2005 7:27:08 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: SpringheelJack

Okay. Let's see what happens.


126 posted on 10/02/2005 7:34:24 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: longfellow

Unfortunately, the Chicago elitists basically run all of IL. Pubbies have no representation in the IL House or Senate. It's sad really.

Never seems to be any viable Republican candidates. We can thank that turd George Ryan for destroying the trust in the Republican party in IL.


127 posted on 10/02/2005 8:05:07 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: conservativebabe

Was it Jim Ryan and that whole thing with the wife?


128 posted on 10/02/2005 8:14:48 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: oceanview
its going to be Clinton/Richardson.

Bill would not take second fiddle to Hill.

129 posted on 10/02/2005 8:29:25 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SpringheelJack

He was last sighted in 1920. Still breathing fire. Perhaps an early fan of Dubya.


130 posted on 10/02/2005 10:34:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: hflynn

4) What will happen if Hillary decides not to run and a Republican wins the US Senate race in NY?


Hell will freeze over when the free thinkers in NYC vote in a Republican. It's a lost cause.


131 posted on 10/02/2005 7:24:08 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: JohnD9207

I have just 2 words for u, Rudy Giuliani.


132 posted on 10/03/2005 5:22:39 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: hflynn

I have just 2 words for u, Rudy Giuliani

And three back at you, He's Pro Choice.


133 posted on 10/04/2005 8:25:16 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: JohnD9207

And 6 back at u, So is Hillary. It's New York!


134 posted on 10/05/2005 5:27:42 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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