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Iraqi Police Conduct Raid Without Oversight
American Forces Press Service ^ | Oct 1, 2005 | Spc. Ben Brody, USA

Posted on 10/01/2005 8:31:14 PM PDT by SandRat

BAGHDAD, Oct. 1, 2005 – In the dead of night Sept. 24, Iraqi police with the 2nd Public Order Brigade conducted their first raid without oversight by coalition forces. The mission was directed against members of terrorist groups and criminal gangs in Medain, a district south of Baghdad. In all, the Iraqi police unit detained 20 suspects and confiscated several AK-47 assault rifles.

"Medain is a very important area for us to secure - many people suspected of terrorism live in that region," said Brig. Gen. Hamed Aabdullah Abrahim, 2nd POB commander. "Our brigade is conducting qualitative operations, not quantitative, and it has resulted in a safer Baghdad."

"This is the first joint mission, planned and led by the 2nd Public Order Brigade. The Iraqis are out front," said Army Maj. Rick Ackerman of the Special Police Transition Team. "There was no American intervention - 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry provided an outer cordon and the Special Police Transition Team provided a liaison between coalition forces and the Public Order Brigade."

The Special Police Transition Team is a Fort Drum, N.Y.-based unit that specializes in training and advising the special police in combat. They have worked extensively with the 2nd POB in Baghdad for the past six months.

"The Public Order Brigade will be instrumental in keeping Baghdad safe," said Army Maj. John Hinrichs, a Special Police Transition Team member from Gouverneur, N.Y. "They are critical to security in the city."

The POB is a paramilitary wing of the Iraqi police, designed to provide large-scale law enforcement operations in Baghdad in order to avoid using Iraqi Army troops in dense civilian populations. According to Ackerman, from Jamestown, N.D., the next step is to repeat this type of mission to establish a pattern of competence that will help the Special Police Transition Team assess the POB's readiness.

"The Public Order Brigade will continue doing what they demonstrated today - taking the lead in every aspect of the mission, while they further refine their planning," Ackerman said. "We're moving toward a point where the Public Order Brigade won't need us; Our job is put ourselves out of a job. As the Public Order Brigade stands up, we stand down."

"Conducting joint operations helps both U.S. and Iraqi units," said Army Lt. Col. Robert Kerecz, Special Police transition Team commander. "The more we understand and appreciate each other's capabilities, the more effective team we are."

"We will hunt terrorists wherever they dwell," Abrahim said after the mission. "We give the Iraqi people hope as we develop our army, and make it more advanced - so we may live in peace."

In related news, the Iraq Police Service graduated 669 police officers from the basic police-training course Sept. 29 at the Baghdad Police College.

The Baghdad Police Academy opened its doors in January 2004 and has graduated more than 15,800 students. This was the first basic training course taught entirely by Iraqi police trainers, who received basic and advanced instructor development training at the facility.

The 10-week basic police-training program is designed to provide fundamental and democratic policing skills based on international human rights standards to the students in preparation for assuming police officer responsibilities. The program consists of academic study of general policing topics combined with a heavy emphasis to tactical operational policing skills.

Also, The Iraqi Police Service graduated 223 police officers from advanced and specialty courses at the Adnan Training Facility Sept. 29 as part of the Iraqi government's ongoing effort to train its security forces.

The courses consist of basic criminal investigations with 41 graduates, advanced criminal investigations with 10 graduates, interview and interrogations with 27 graduates, violent crime investigation with 45 graduates, criminal intelligence with 23 graduates and election security with 77 graduates.

The basic criminal investigation course, designed to introduce participants to basic concepts of criminal investigation, covers topics such as theft, burglary, arson, robbery, sexual offenses and homicide investigation. Students receive classroom instruction and hands-on training in fingerprinting, photography, tool marks and plaster casting techniques. The course has graduated 2,627 police officers to date.

The advanced criminal investigation course provides participants with advanced investigative techniques to be used in a variety of situations, but particularly in investigations of homicide, kidnapping, terrorism and bombings. This course has graduated 116 students to date.

(Spc. Brody is assigned to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team Public Affairs Office. Other Multinational Force Iraq news releases were included in this article.)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conduct; gwot; iraq; iraqipolice; oif; oversight; police; progress; raid; selfrule; without

1 posted on 10/01/2005 8:31:15 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: SandRat

From a security standpoint this is a Good Thing. No coalition oversight means no pantyphobia. Terrorists caught in the act will be in for a world of hurt.


2 posted on 10/01/2005 8:35:51 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: SandRat

Good for them.


3 posted on 10/01/2005 8:40:56 PM PDT by KCRW
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To: SandRat; jmc1969; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; Enchante; F14 Pilot; mdittmar; vadkins; ...

Thanks SR for post. Shame as more Iraqi units take the initiative and do fully independent operations in the next few months what will stick in many Americans minds is the last videos they saw of the senate update hearing where Casey, Rumsfeld, and Myers basically looked like they did not have answers to Iraqi troop strenghts etc.. As the Iraqi's kick ass the L/MSM will be doing extra duty on every reported suicide bomber ramming their vehicles full of tnt into some market or pile of kids, and scream about the Vietnam quagmire in Iraq.
Such is life on the planet earth.


4 posted on 10/01/2005 8:46:15 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

It takes time but it is on the right track


5 posted on 10/01/2005 8:47:56 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: SandRat

Interesting also is the detail this time around in just what type training these police have received. Like in any major city in the US full of crime hopefully they will go easy on the human rights ball@hit and make sure an adequate supply of buckets of water and clubs,pipes,rubber hose is available.


6 posted on 10/01/2005 8:50:37 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: F14 Pilot

"It takes time but it is on the right track."

I know, that is what I have been harping for a long time. But sometimes I just let my guard down a bit. I know the paths pretty much they will take as things continue to shape up, it is the American and world masses that don't get articles and analysis such as is offered here and just go by the standard rip rap the jerks put out, that continues to bug me.


7 posted on 10/01/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SandRat

Everyone understands the importance and the advantages of the Iraqis taking this on themselves. Iraqi is going to end up with the most advanced police force in the Arab world.


8 posted on 10/01/2005 9:06:16 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: SandRat

MSM and dem rat lefties are deeply saddened.


9 posted on 10/01/2005 9:09:33 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Marine_Uncle
The thing is, it doesn't matter. Eventually, the Iraqis will bring their country under control and no matter what everyone thinks, President Bush is going to be president until January 20, 2009. That is more than enough time.

The media can only lie up to a given point and then the truth will overwhelm the lies. What do they do then?

10 posted on 10/01/2005 9:10:20 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: The Red Zone

And one can wager no MSM types will have the minerals to imbed with them. If a tree falls in the forest and no one sees or hears.... et al.


11 posted on 10/01/2005 9:13:07 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: SandRat

Climb to Glory!
Ft. Drum & the 10th Mountain Division!
Ya gotta luv 'em.


12 posted on 10/01/2005 9:46:32 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: Marine_Uncle


Public Order Brigade troops proudly display the Iraqi flag after their first raid without U.S. oversight in Baghdad Sept. 24. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Ben Brody, 2nd Brigade Combat Team PAO)

This came from www.blackanthem.com and was linked on Google News. Nice!
13 posted on 10/01/2005 9:53:08 PM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: McGavin999

"The media can only lie up to a given point and then the truth will overwhelm the lies. What do they do then?"

You and I know pretty much what is going down and will happen over a period of time in Iraq. It is when we see Joey shithead Biden and other goons, pissing and moaning about how public opinion on the war is eroding, and the jerks try to pretend they are so concerned about how the war turns out and so what is the POTUS going to do about getting rid of the negatives, while the L/MSM just chuckle away and continue deceiving the American public. That is what bugs me. I realize there is not a damn thing we can do about this. The L/MSM got the nation locked in for a long time and they control their mental processes for the most part. But it just bugs me. So Gav.......once every few months I piss and moan for one or two posts, then get back in line and continue speaking what must be said.
Semper Fi.


14 posted on 10/01/2005 9:58:20 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Tarantulas
Thanks for the pic. We continue to build them up. Trained them how to take care of them selves and protect their buddies sixes. Some of their commando and regular army have recently been known to call our guys their brothers. There is pride in their work. They are seeing possitive results daily. As most of us are accutely aware. We have managed to start building a Esprit de Corps. within their officer corps and enlist ranks. Now the new Iraqi Army know a bit about NCO duties, how to take care of the enlist men. The officers now see a totally different way as how to fight battles, and treat their men. They will be the first Americanized/Britishized Army in the ME. And most importantly, more of the Iraqi peoples regardless of ethnic/religious affiliations are seeing that their new army and police are going after the Ali Babba. They are becoming first responders not dependent fully on the coalition troops. Give them another year of this continued training and experience and their constantly growing size, and surely we shall be able to pull out perhaps a bit earlier then the one might currently imagine. Once the borders are effectively closed down, Ali Babba cannot escape nor come in, so how long can Z-mans goons hold out if they are constantly being searched out and pointed out by ever increasing numbers of Iraqi's. The HUMIT appears to daily become increasingly more reliable. More towns sheiks and mayors will be calling the HOTLINE numbers for Iraqi troops to come in and kill those still remaining Ali Babba and known Saddamist operators. Damn. GWB aught to make me his spokesman at press conferences. Of course I would only last one time, after I cold cocked some miserable reporter after I jumped off the stage in a wild fury! Semper Fi
15 posted on 10/01/2005 10:14:14 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
LOL, I know how you feel. It is discouraging and it's hard to keep our spirits up when we're confronted with such obvious hatred and distortion from within our own country.

I'll make you a deal, I'll cover your back if you cover mine.

16 posted on 10/01/2005 10:19:24 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: McGavin999

"I'll make you a deal, I'll cover your back if you cover mine."

You got a deal. Seems like I am coming out of my little slump.
Semper Fi.


17 posted on 10/01/2005 10:37:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: McGavin999
"what do they do then?"

Move the target and keep on lying.
18 posted on 10/02/2005 4:44:19 AM PDT by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: cdrw

Sad but true. Heck, Rather came out the other day and still seems to be holding to the "fake but accurate" nonsense.


19 posted on 10/02/2005 4:51:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: SandRat

This advancement of the Bagdad Police Academy and it's successful training efforts is another victory for George W. Bush.

This success story must make the liberal bias media livid and envious.


20 posted on 10/02/2005 5:01:19 AM PDT by jscottdavis_for_48th_district (J. SCOTT DAVIS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jscottdavisfanclub DAVIS- HOLLYWOOD'S NEXT ACTION HERO)
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To: McGavin999
Advanced and competent; that's what scares the other nations. Probably why they're "unofficially and wholly unsanctioned -- wink wink jab jab nudge nudge" sending AQ Idjits over to Iraq
21 posted on 10/02/2005 7:10:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: jscottdavis_for_48th_district
sssssssh, that's why they're not reporting it. Only the DoD Journalists are carrying it on Official DoD Newswires and the MSM refuses to run that "propaganda."Now ain't that typical for the LSM?
22 posted on 10/02/2005 7:25:32 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Oooooh you are so correct! The liberal bias media is not covering the Iraq War as much as they were because so much progress is being made. Also, our troops perform acts of heroism on a daily basis.

A great way to handle the liberal bias media is to write them and threaten to write their sponsors and threaten to boycott sponsor's products if their liberal bias news coverage doesn't discontinue.


23 posted on 10/02/2005 8:36:48 AM PDT by jscottdavis_for_48th_district (J. SCOTT DAVIS http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jscottdavisfanclub DAVIS- HOLLYWOOD'S NEXT ACTION HERO)
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To: Marine_Uncle

I was reading about this the other day. It's GOOD news!


24 posted on 10/02/2005 4:28:31 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: hiredhand

"I was reading about this the other day. It's GOOD news!"

Lots of good news has been coming out of Iraq on many issues.


25 posted on 10/02/2005 4:57:51 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
I didn't mean to sound like "I'd already heard it".... PLEASE keep me on your list!

Yeah...I LIKE good news! The left, and the MSM might hate it, but I LIKE it!
26 posted on 10/02/2005 5:43:31 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: hiredhand
Do if you have not already. Consider this site. It is hard to find a better site to get a good feel as to what goes down in Iraq concerning military matters.

http://billroggio.com/

I seldom post, but do often make comments. But I will put you on my ping list. If you visit this site, you will find on the right panel area a section way down entitled "Archives". You can go back in time and follow much of the military actions that have taken place in Iraq and see just how deliberatly out of touch the L/MSM have been. Obviously there are dozens of great sites such as:
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/

Which though he has finished up his work as an embed with the Army in Mosul area, provides dozens of dispatches full of details on what has gone on in northern Iraq for a long time. He pulls no punches. His info is verifable and found accurate. These two sites are amoung a number of places some of us have gone for info on after action reports on Iraq. So we are not working inside a vacuum as apparantly a lot of the L/MSM reporters that just sit around in Baghdad hotels and wait to hear from some hired Iraqi bring them news do.

27 posted on 10/02/2005 6:00:54 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SandRat

Thanks for posting. GREAT NEWS!

"The Public Order Brigade will be instrumental in keeping Baghdad safe," said Army Maj. John Hinrichs, a Special Police Transition Team member from Gouverneur, N.Y. "They are critical to security in the city."

said Army Maj. John Hinrichs

and from another thread...

A University of Oklahoma student died in an explosion Saturday night near a stadium packed with 84,000 people. Although the investigation is not complete, the medical examiner believes Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, of Colorado Springs, Colo., perished in the blast, said Salvador Hernandez, special agent in charge of the FBI in Oklahoma .

...meaningless, but the Army Major's name had me searching for my tin foil.


28 posted on 10/02/2005 6:58:48 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Marine_Uncle; FlashBack
I'll check http://billroggio.com/ and I've been a Mike Yon "subscriber" for months now. In fact, Freeper FlashBack sends out notifications of new dispatches by Mike Yon to a ping list....I'm on Mike Yon's mailing list, so if I don't see FlashBack's message in 24 hours, I post it.

The reporting from the MSM over there is deplorable. I can't figure out whether Al Jazeera or our own news media is worse. I think it's a very close toss-up as to which is the most vile.
29 posted on 10/02/2005 7:40:07 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: hiredhand

"The reporting from the MSM over there is deplorable. I can't figure out whether Al Jazeera or our own news media is worse. I think it's a very close toss-up as to which is the most vile."
The coin would land and balance on the edge in this case.


30 posted on 10/02/2005 7:47:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle

LOL! A very fitting, and appropriate visual! ;-)


31 posted on 10/02/2005 8:07:17 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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