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Harriet Miers -- pro, part 1 (long but informative)
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Posted on 10/03/2005 9:02:27 AM PDT by hipaatwo

This begins a series of seven posts on Harriet Miers, based on interviews with those who know her. Some background for the first five: I spoke yesterday with Nathan Hecht, the Texas Supreme Court justice who is a prolife hero for strongly supporting parental notification laws five years ago when a SCOTEX majority was scuttling them. Hecht, 55 and never married, and Harriet Miers, 60 and never married, have known each other for 30 years and are -- to quote Hecht -- "very close friends. We dated some. The relationship has been close: Platonic... We go to dinner, I go to Washington for special things."

Harriet Miers -- pro, part 2

Miers has been a member of Valley View Christian Church in Dallas for 25 years, where Hecht has been an elder. He calls it a "conservative evangelical church... in the vernacular, fundamentalist, but the media have used that word to tar us." He says she was on the missions committee for ten years, taught children in Sunday School, made coffee, brought donuts: "Nothing she's asked to do in church is beneath her." On abortion, choosing his words carefully for an on-the-record statement, he says "her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians... You can tell a lot about her from her decade of service in a conservative church."

Harriet Miers -- pro, part 3

Hecht says about Miers' judicial philosophy: "She's an orginalist -- that's the way she takes the Bible," and that's her approach to the Constitution as well -- "Originalist -- it means what it says." He notes that her legal practice involved writing contracts rather than tort law, so she was always looking at the plain meaning of the words: "Originalist." He also says she's not a social butterfly who will be swayed by Washington dinner table conversation: "She goes to the dinners she's supposed to go to. She's not on the social circuit."

Harriet Miers -- pro, part 4

Hecht says Miers never got married because she "probably worked too hard. She's close to her family, has a sister and three brothers, goes to her nephews' high school football games, bought a car for one of them." She "had a Catholic upbringing, had not been close to the church, it was off again, on again, then she came to a point in her life when she wanted to change that…. She made an abrupt change in 79 or 80. She was very hard-working and successful, she wanted new meaning, substance in her life.” Her father died when she was a freshman in college. "Look at her commitment in taking care of her [now 93-year-old mother] all these years. Look at her tax returns. She tithes, gave a full tithe to the church. Helps out in missions, Bible translation. These are the kinds of values she shows." Hecht and Miers "went to two or three prolife dinners in the late 80s or early 90s."

Harriet Miers -- pro, part 5

Questions are being raised about Harriet Miers' politics because published records show her making contributions of $1,000 to Lloyd Bentsen in 1987, Al Gore in 1988, and the Democratic National Committee that same year. Hecht says, "She was a Democrat years and years ago, in the early 80s." As far as the late 80s contributions, "If she did it, it was because the [law] firm made her do it." She is loyal to President Bush and he to her: "The president demands a lot. The people he's loyal to are productive." Miers and Laura Bush are "very close. Harriet just loves Laura, has the deepest respect for her. Laura has migrated in her faith, it’s stronger than when she got to Washington.”

Harriet Myers -- anti

Hecht's evaluation needs to be taken seriously, but here's one negative analysis from a lawyer who is a conservative Christian and worked with Harriet Miers in Texas (I agreed to go off-the-record with this lawyer, a credible person whose practice could be seriously hurt by this criticism of Miers): "Harriet could have become a conservative in Washington, but unless she did, she doesn’t have any particular judicial philosophy… I never heard her take a position on anything… We’ll have another Sandra Day O’Connor… Harriet worships the president and has called him the smartest man she’s known. She’s a pretty good lawyer…. This president can be bamboozled by anyone he feels close to. If a person fawns on him enough, is loyal, works 25 hours a day and says you’re the smartest man I ever met, all of a sudden you’re right for the Supreme Court."

Harriet Miers -- her pastor's view

I talked yesterday with Miers' pastor, Ron Key, who for 33 years (until a few weeks ago) was pastor of Valley View Christian Church in Dallas. “She started coming to church in 1980. She helped out with kids, made coffee, furnished donuts, served on missions committee. She worked out her faith in practical, behind-the-scenes ways. She doesn't draw attention to herself, she's humble, self-effacing." Key has still seen her in recent years because "her mother is 93. Harriet tries to get home as much as she can." When Key and Miers met in 1980, "I don’t know how strong her faith was at that time. She came to a place where she totally committed her life to Jesus. She had gone to church before, but when she came to our church it became more serious to her.... Our church is strong for life, but Harriet and I have not had any conversations on that…. We believe in the biblical approach to marriage."


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1 posted on 10/03/2005 9:02:34 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: Mo1; onyx; Howlin

FYI


2 posted on 10/03/2005 9:03:10 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo

I'm liking this choice more and more. And the whiners can just keep up their unattractive simpering.


3 posted on 10/03/2005 9:05:29 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: hipaatwo

Thanks for the ping!


4 posted on 10/03/2005 9:06:16 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: hipaatwo

Good post


5 posted on 10/03/2005 9:07:04 AM PDT by Cruz
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To: hipaatwo
Drudge:

Harriet Miers gave cash contribution to the Democratic National Committee in 1988 and Gore campaign -- while Bush dad was running for president!...

Enough said. Bush has betrayed the base. This nominee is absolutely unacceptable. She's worse than Alberto Gonzales. The Republicans in the Senate must stop this nomination or the GOP must pay the price and lose power.

We're actually looking at the court moving to the LEFT thanks to Bush.

6 posted on 10/03/2005 9:07:51 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: hipaatwo

If World is accurate in this presentation, I'm in the process of being pleasantly surprised.


7 posted on 10/03/2005 9:09:52 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Peach
Fair enough, but she might get shot down for not having been a judge already. (See also the late Bobby Kennedy as AG...)

And speaking of that, I remember late last week the mention of the possibility of candidates who hadn't even been on the bench at all...

Full Disclosure: When I saw she was 55-ish or so, never married, and had dated someone named Hecht, I misread "Hecht" as "Heche" and fairly had a heart attack.
Don't do that to me on a Monday Morning! :-)

8 posted on 10/03/2005 9:09:56 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: hipaatwo

Told ya. She's a big time conservative.


9 posted on 10/03/2005 9:10:24 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Gore was pro-life then. Try again.


10 posted on 10/03/2005 9:10:54 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: nickcarraway; hipaatwo

PING ---

thanks. I'll read this now.


11 posted on 10/03/2005 9:10:54 AM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: hipaatwo

Maybe the whiners wanted Bush to use the Popes smoke signal system before choosing a new judge.


12 posted on 10/03/2005 9:11:05 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Mo1

I think the site is a Christian site. I got it from a link at NRO I think..LOL..I've been surfing the net and don't remember but I think it was NRO.

I have to be away from the computer for a bit. I'm cooking holiday dinner for my son and I.


13 posted on 10/03/2005 9:11:24 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
She believes in Jesus? Wonderful.

But does she believe in Federalism? That may be more a relevant qualification with respect to her recent appointment.
14 posted on 10/03/2005 9:11:29 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
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To: hipaatwo
I've posted excerpts from this interview here on Free Republic and at my website

I have personal knowledge of the church that she attends. It is conservative and evangelical and those I know who attend there are pro-life.

I feel good about Harriet Miers.

Stingray: Conservative blog       

        <-------- Visit Stingray blogsite for conservative Christian commentary

15 posted on 10/03/2005 9:11:29 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple; Congressman Billybob

For your information...


16 posted on 10/03/2005 9:12:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hipaatwo
" ... but here's one negative analysis from a lawyer who is a conservative Christian and worked with Harriet Miers in Texas ... "


This negative analysis is easily dismissed.

1) This lawyer, if a Christian, does not follow his religion.

2) Anonymity strikes again.



17 posted on 10/03/2005 9:12:43 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: Ol' Sparky

But there's more. Her contributions changed to the Republicans around 1994 and I believe stayed in that direction. People have room to grow. I voted for Jimmy Carter. Twice. And now, I'm a conservative Republican. I see this potentially as a Bill Clinton conversion.


18 posted on 10/03/2005 9:12:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: hipaatwo

I think that since Miers has such personal loyalty to Bush personally, she's be even more conservative than she would otherwise, so she won't be another Souter hung around his neck by conservatives.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see her be every bit as conservative as Scalia in her votes on the court, regardless of whether she'd be that conservative based on her views alone.

I agree she's a crony, but cronies tend to be very loyal.


19 posted on 10/03/2005 9:13:22 AM PDT by Altair333 (Stop illegal immigration: George Allen in 2008)
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To: hipaatwo
"her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians... You can tell a lot about her from her decade of service in a conservative church."

Waiting for the RATS...Tick.....Tick,......Tick.

20 posted on 10/03/2005 9:13:38 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Ol' Sparky

I don't see how a strict constructionist, a fundamental pro-life Christian is a move to the left.<p<But than again, that's just me.


21 posted on 10/03/2005 9:13:39 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: Uncle Joe Cannon
But does she believe in Federalism? That may be more a relevant qualification with respect to her recent appointment.

Nathan Hecht -- a staunch, pro-life Texas Supreme Court judge and very close friend of Miers -- says that her view of the constitution is the same as her view on the Bible:  what was the original intent of the authors.

Stingray: Conservative blog       

        <-------- Visit Stingray blogsite for conservative Christian commentary

22 posted on 10/03/2005 9:13:50 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Ol' Sparky

Chill,

Republicans didn't really exist in Texas in the 1980's also recall that Gore was a pro-life dixiecrat in 1988.


23 posted on 10/03/2005 9:14:15 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Peach

What a Souter. (/sarc)


24 posted on 10/03/2005 9:14:18 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Ol' Sparky
"Enough said. Bush has betrayed the base."

And Reagan was a democrat before he was a Republican. I guess we were all wrong about him too.

25 posted on 10/03/2005 9:14:59 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: hipaatwo

Just because I missed it, why did Britt Mention FR? Thanks in advance.


26 posted on 10/03/2005 9:15:00 AM PDT by The_Republican
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To: Pukin Dog

some more background here.


27 posted on 10/03/2005 9:16:53 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Ol' Sparky

Hey Sparky,

I'm part of the base and I'm fine with this pick.


28 posted on 10/03/2005 9:18:49 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: hipaatwo

Here's my favorite section from the post:

Hecht says about Miers' judicial philosophy: "She's an orginalist -- that's the way she takes the Bible," and that's her approach to the Constitution as well --"Originalist -- it means what it says." He notes that her legal practice involved writing contracts rather than tort law, so she was always looking at the plain meaning of the words: "Originalist." He also says she's not a social butterfly who will be swayed by Washington dinner table conversation: "She goes to the dinners she's supposed to go to. She's not on the social circuit."


29 posted on 10/03/2005 9:19:25 AM PDT by Califelephant (Liberals: "We've always been soft on criminals, but now we're soft on terrorists too.")
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To: gramho12

Some people just want any excuse to run the Republicans down so that they can more easily market whatever kooky crew they've hitched their wagons on to.

Just my humble opinion. :)


30 posted on 10/03/2005 9:19:37 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: twigs
I voted for Jimmy Carter. TwiceI would have too if I had been old enough the first time! I did, however, vote for Mondale and Dukakis. I did not vote for Clinton, but neither did I vote for Bush 1. As a "neo" conservative, I am very ardent in my views now, I have "seen" and known the other side. This nomination could be a pleasant surprise.
31 posted on 10/03/2005 9:19:51 AM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: bereanway

I guess that's one of the advantages of being a pessimist.

You're always pleasantly suprised. :D


32 posted on 10/03/2005 9:20:19 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Peach

I think she'll be fine.


33 posted on 10/03/2005 9:20:26 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: LS

I remember when Al Gore was pro-life. So were other dems. Sam Nunn was pro-life and had a lot of conservative Christians on his staff. Then he announced he was pro-choice, although I do not remember the words he used. I was absolutely stunned. It seemed to me back then that decent dems with presidential aspirations felt that they had to turn their backs on life to move ahead. Nunn retired; Gore... I'm still not sure what he did.


34 posted on 10/03/2005 9:20:29 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Ol' Sparky
There's a true saying, "The most vocal nonsmoker is a former smoker". I voted for Perot -- I take responsibility for Clinton's election. But Clinton was the best thing for me. That is when I started listening to Rush & realized I was a bone marrow conservative.
35 posted on 10/03/2005 9:21:03 AM PDT by Kay
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To: The_Republican

Just because I missed it, why did Britt Mention FR?


Dunno. No t.v. on. Listening to Rush and cooking Rosh Hashannah dinner.


36 posted on 10/03/2005 9:21:31 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
"Hecht, 55 and never married, and Harriet Miers, 60 and never married, have known each other for 30 years and are -- to quote Hecht -- "very close friends."

Ummmm....My Grand Daddy told me when I was a teen ager, "Anyone that was not married by the age of 40 is either gay (He didn't quite use the politically correct term) or of superior intelligence."

37 posted on 10/03/2005 9:24:54 AM PDT by moasicwolf
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To: Ol' Sparky

If you remember back in the 1980s, Al Gore was a lot more conservative. His wife began the whole issue about labeling music, etc. for age-appropriateness. He went more left in the late 80s, probably looking at the democratic party and seeing that it wasn't family-oriented any more, so why should he be?


38 posted on 10/03/2005 9:25:25 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: hipaatwo

Thanks for the information. I'm inclined to believe that she could be qualified to serve on the SC, based on this information. I'm juggling a lot of stuff right now, and I'm far behind in the nomination process.


39 posted on 10/03/2005 9:27:12 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Constantine XIII

I have to admit I had serious doubts about this nominee when I heard about the apparent support of certain dim senators. If this is true, I doubt the dim support will hang on for long.


40 posted on 10/03/2005 9:28:39 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: hipaatwo
He also says she's not a social butterfly who will be swayed by Washington dinner table conversation: "She goes to the dinners she's supposed to go to. She's not on the social circuit."

Wow. This really is Souter deja vu!

41 posted on 10/03/2005 9:29:30 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: Pukin Dog

Maybe Dubya is doing something right.


42 posted on 10/03/2005 9:31:40 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: TexasGreg
Miers has been a member of Valley View Christian Church in Dallas for 25 years, where Hecht has been an elder. He calls it a "conservative evangelical church... in the vernacular, fundamentalist, but the media have used that word to tar us." He says she was on the missions committee for ten years, taught children in Sunday School, made coffee, brought donuts: "Nothing she's asked to do in church is beneath her." On abortion, choosing his words carefully for an on-the-record statement, he says "her personal views are consistent with that of evangelical Christians... You can tell a lot about her from her decade of service in a conservative church."

My mindset against this woman just changed. I am a member of the same church group, and even served as the vice-president of a large pro-life group. This lady will be...A VERY GOOD CHOICE!
43 posted on 10/03/2005 9:32:44 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jbwbubba

That's not true. We went with Reagan twice and elected a Republican governor and Republican senators. By 1988, the GOP majority was clearly emerging in Texas. She was defintiely lagging behind.


44 posted on 10/03/2005 9:34:44 AM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: hipaatwo

Very informative post. Thank you.


45 posted on 10/03/2005 9:35:11 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: DallasMike

You can tell a lot about people from the company they keep. An old maid who belongs to a conservative (read fundamentalist) church and is close to her aged mother. Good lawyer who has outstripped most of the members of her class.

BUT I suspect that some of this is spite. Bush says:You movement conservatives refuse to accept Al because of one dubious opinion; OK, this is what you get.


46 posted on 10/03/2005 9:37:08 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: moasicwolf
My Grand Daddy told me when I was a teen ager, "Anyone that was not married by the age of 40 is either gay (He didn't quite use the politically correct term) or of superior intelligence."

She's a woman of her times. You don't have a career like hers and raise a family at the same time.

47 posted on 10/03/2005 9:38:24 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: twigs

If I had to vote for Sam Nunn of 1975 and Linc Chafee of 2005, I'd vote Democrat.


48 posted on 10/03/2005 9:38:46 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL. I noticed that name too.

I remember some leftist Congresscritters some time ago mentioning the president could/should nominate someone from Congress, knowing full well that most of them had never been judges either.

I think it's good she's never been a judge. We've had lots of Supreme Court justices who had never been judges, including Rehnquist, I think. And I am delighted we will have someone who has not in the echo chamber created by happenstance once one becomes a judge. It makes her more "regular people" who can relate to Middle America.


49 posted on 10/03/2005 9:38:52 AM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: hipaatwo

It's is possible just possible this one is a stealth candidate. Being a former dem innoculates her a little. The former dem part troubles me but it is possible for people to change as was the case with W.


50 posted on 10/03/2005 9:40:55 AM PDT by plain talk
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