Skip to comments.Harriet Miers -- pro, part 1 (long but informative)
Posted on 10/03/2005 9:02:27 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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Good for you!
I have been more or less active in pro-life activities in Dallas for 15 or so, and Valley View Christiann Church is a wonderful church. I don't that Harriet Miers would feel comfortable there if she weren't pro-life.
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It's is possible just possible this one is a stealth candidate. Being a former dem innoculates her a little. The former dem part troubles me but it is possible for people to change as was the case with W.
As I said, I was a dem in the 80s but I never held to all their veiws, I have always been pro life, have been pro gun and believe in the constitution as it was written.
Judging her on a few donations that may have been required of her to keep her job(read the article) isn't the smartest thing to do.
I am going to keep my options open and see what happens. All of you trolls and DUers trying to cause problems here just roll off my back.
This is an issue that requires-in the words of John McLaughlin-"metaphysical certitude."
Perhaps she'll turn out to be a stellar associate justice-presuming, of course, that she's ultimately confirmed-but I'd rather not leave it up to chance, especially when there were so many other possible choices who had already established firm, unwavering judicial philosophies, and who would have been absolutely certain to stand with us.
Every conservative life-long Texan over the age of 40 was once a Democrat. 25 years ago the only real races in most counties were the primaries and they were between conservative Democrats and slightly-less-than-conservative Democrats. There really was no Repubican Party in Texas until Reagan.
15 years ago Al Gore promoted himself as a moral, pro-lifer. That changed. She also gave to Lloyd Bentsen, who got out of the Clinton administration as soon as he could. I still consider Bentsen to basically be an honorable man.
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"I voted for Jimmy Carter."
I am a former Demo too. A Rabid Conservative now. I find her pick refreshing and in the interests of conservatives throughout the country.
This is going to be a bad one for the Demos. If she's anything like other converts, this is a truly solid pick.
I think it was regarding the forged Dan Rather doc. Buckhead of FR outed Rather, thereby scooping the MSM.
This information looks very promising.
Atually, I think the confirmation hearings could be quite comical. Senators trying to convert her back to the Liberal side.
Could be a hoot.
If she is a conservative Christian, that's a good clue that she won't feel that bound by stare decisis. Luther did not feel bound by stare decisis.
Beginning with the pietistic movement in the late 19th century, Christians increasingly stayed away (or kept their faith away) from involvement in the arts, sciences, and politics for most of the 20th century. And when they didn't (think Moral Majority and Christian Coalition), what was the general reaction then? Has it changed, even within the Republican Party, today?
Some Christians practice a strict separation of "private life" and "public/professional/political" life when it comes to applying the Bible to public affairs. If Harriet Miers is such a person (or if her church stayed away from "divisive" social positions, such as abortion) there's no telling (not by her church membership, anyway) which direction she'll lean in court matters.
After all, we just learned this year that Billy Graham was a registered, participating Democrat his whole life. If he didn't have a problem being on the left politically, maybe Miers won't, either.
Oops. My mistake. See post #59.
I need more coffee....
We have to wait and see now--if she is a conservative, I hope she has a sronger personality than imbecile Ginsberg and is not swayed.
I must be of superior intelligence then. I'm 52, not married and definitely not gay. :)
So would I. But the dem party of 1975 was such a different party than it is today. I tended to vote more for the person back then; now I tend to vote more along party lines. Usually I want to vote for the Republican candidate, but if I don't, I weigh the character of the dem candidate against the Republican party. Yet, I do not always like the direction of the Republicans either.
...the pietistic movement in the late 19th century...
I'll Google that later...
I fully understand your concern with Miers' contributions to DNC and Gore. However, as a sixth-generation Texan, I can assure you that supporting Democrats in Texas was the norm, even for solid conservatives, until the relatively recent past.
During the 80s, there were mass defections into the Republican party, largely a result of the Reagan years. Still today, many Texas Democrats are more conservative than Republicans in other states.
I know very conservative voters in rural areas who wouldn't vote for a Republican for any office -- bitterness left over from the Hoover years and the great depression. Honest.
There are numerous explanations for those contributions; let's hold judgement and see what we hear. Could be that Miers' seeming bi-partisanship plays a part in getting votes for a solid conservative to the court.
It seems to me that YOU are the one betraying the base.
You thought Souter was OK, supported GWHB as a conservative...
What can you possibly say that we should listen to?
Anyway, I have one word for this appointment.
Oh go soak your head. You've been saying the same crap forever. You hate President Bush, you've always hated President Bush. Nothing he has done or could do would make you happy. Go to LoonyPlace, your mindset fits in with them.
I also voted for Perot in "92, but I do not feel resposible for Clinton's election. I would lay that resposibility at the feet of GHWB. I would rather see a skunk with a skunks name on it, than a skunk with my name on it.
I am not overly convinced that the present version could be classified as conservative. His almost passionate aversion to do anything that might damage Clinton's, or his sychophant's, reputations is disconcerting, to say the least.
This is one of the most informative posts on Miers put on FR during the past four months.
I especially like the way Miss Miers is described as an Originalistregarding both the Bible and the Constitution. Bravo for her!!!
Agreed. But the Dems are NOT an answer today, as SOME Dems were back in the 1970s.
And I surely understand her being a registered democrat way back then. Many here in Georgia would have to say the same thing, me included. Hellsbells, if you wanted to vote for sheriff, judge, school board, any local election, you had to be democrat to vote! YAHOOOO those days are long gone!
(and many of those democrats I voted for, switched to the GOP before I did)
...we should remember how close we came to this!
Reagan was a Dem in another life. A 1988 donation to Al Gore when he was a pro-life candidate, lessens the pain a little more...
Correct. There were plenty of Republicans in Texas in the 80's. When folks think of Texas as the yellowdog democrat state, they need to realize that pretty much ended in the late 70's.
I'd vote for Zell Miller in a heartbeat, even with a big D next to his name.......Democrats weren't always the marxists they are now.
Thanks! Something to be proud of!
Bush I wasn't Bush II. He was barely pro-life, and he paled in comparison to RR on just about every Conservative cause. It wasn't easy voting for him in '88. Gore at the time wasn't a flaming liberal, either.
Don't give up so soon.
World Magazine is a great conservative Christian weekly which I subscribe to.